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Any chance we are trying to sign both Liggins and Schuessler?

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Goat Grindin

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I think that'd be a good idea. Go ahead and get QBs on the roster and if Liggins isn't a QB after all, just move him, you know he'll be a player somewhere. From what I hear Schuessler (while I have no clue how good he is) goes to a pretty high profile school with alot of D1 athletes. Might help get our foot in the door.<div>
</div><div>And we all know the deal about Mullen telling Liggins about Wallace is ******** anyway. That's Ole Miss rationalization. And if he did, we, or the recruitniks, would never really know it. Obviously we wanted Wallace too, so we're looking to sign two QBs anyway.</div>
 
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Goat Grindin

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I think that'd be a good idea. Go ahead and get QBs on the roster and if Liggins isn't a QB after all, just move him, you know he'll be a player somewhere. From what I hear Schuessler (while I have no clue how good he is) goes to a pretty high profile school with alot of D1 athletes. Might help get our foot in the door.<div>
</div><div>And we all know the deal about Mullen telling Liggins about Wallace is ******** anyway. That's Ole Miss rationalization. And if he did, we, or the recruitniks, would never really know it. Obviously we wanted Wallace too, so we're looking to sign two QBs anyway.</div>
 
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Coach34

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we never really wanted Wallace...but would have taken him as insurance had the Bears not taken the bait
 
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Goat Grindin

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but sorry, I just don't buy that we offered Wallace just to make Freeze up his walk-on offer to a full-ride offer. That's some black helicopter type stuff.<div>
</div><div>You're starting to sound like Diamondreb.</div>
 
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...the past two-three years, the Bears' recruiting strategy has to see who we want, then steal them from under our noses. Dan is a smrt man....he probably got them salivating over alower-level Division 1-A talent just to make them waste a scholly.
 
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And I believe it. Coach34 has as good of inside contacts in our athletic deptof anyone on the board.
 
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because he would step right into Favre's role. He'd already redshirted one year and played one year. So, we could have added Wallace and a hs qb, which we then redshirt, and thus stay on pace to add one in every class.

Currently, we have a one-year gap there that we won't likely be able to close. It might not ever matter, but I'm all about depth, especially congruent depth. The value of Prescott's early enrollment is IMMENSE now that we find ourselves in this situation.
 
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Mutt the Hoople said:
...the past two-three years, the Bears' recruiting strategy has to see who we want, then steal them from under our noses. Dan is a smrt man....he probably got them salivating over alower-level Division 1-A talent just to make them waste a scholly.
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It's not a coincidence that late in the recruiting process seemingly every recruit we go after OM gives an offer to. Happens every year around this time and honestly I'm fine with it. Just proves to me that when it comes to actually evaluating talent, our staff is pretty damn good and that OM relys on us to do their talent evaluating for them late in the game.
 
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mstatefan88 said:
Mutt the Hoople said:
...the past two-three years, the Bears' recruiting strategy has to see who we want, then steal them from under our noses. Dan is a smrt man....he probably got them salivating over alower-level Division 1-A talent just to make them waste a scholly.
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It's not a coincidence that late in the recruiting process seemingly every recruit we go after OM gives an offer to. Happens every year around this time and honestly I'm fine with it. Just proves to me that when it comes to actually evaluating talent, our staff is pretty damn good and that OM relys on us to do their talent evaluating for them late in the game.
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You do realize we have a new coaching staff so this ******** strategy doesn't make sense. And please give me an example. The only person I can think of is Bo, who was going to walk on until he started getting offers from not only state, but Baylor and Nebraska. If state doesn't offer he woulnt walk on at OM after those schools offered too. Dan is amazing that he can get Baylor and Nebraska to offer a kid just so we would use up a scholly. Amazing
 
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Wallace was worth the scholarship offer, period. For one, I hate we missed on him. I don't necessarily think he is a great fit for our "current" offensive system, but he would be excellent in the "Chris Leak" Mullen scheme.

It just so happens that this is also the scheme that Tyler Russell will excel at. Two pro-style qb's on roster would allow us to, at the very least, move forward with confidence in modifying the offense to a more pass-oriented version of the spread. Currently, spending the time and effort to change the system is a risky proposition, because we only have one qb that it'll fit stylewise. That qb also happens to be our starter and only qb on roster with ANY SEC experience. IMO, we still have to do this to give Russell his best chance to succeed. But when he gets "injured" much the same way Chris Relf was from the Auburn game forward, we'll be stuck in another offensive identity crisis.
 
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Liggins and Mullen have a pretty good relationship. Now, that doesn't mean he won't sign with Ole Miss but you combine it with Ole Miss taking Bo and the great visit Jeremy had to State this weekend and I like our chances. Mullen has proven he can develop and win with a guy like Liggins and that obviously has to have an impact. If we get Liggins I don't think we will sign the Georgia prospect but he is a reasonable insurance policy it appears.
 
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maroonmania

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that he can close on a high profile prospect in January that we weren't already the odds on favorite to sign anyway. Would LOVE to see that change this year with a guy like Liggins. In fact over the past couple of years Januarys have not been kind to us relative to football recruiting.
 
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He seems to be the Tyler Russell-type, and Corch Mullen prefers someone like Chris Relf.....but who can throw better.</p>
 
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match the money when kids are strictly making business decisions. We cheat, everyone cheats but we simply don't have the money to compete, even with Ole Miss who does pay better than MSU. Dan's bedside manner could be better and I think he has worked on that and improved it but when it comes down to strictly dollars we won't win many of those battles right now.<div>
</div><div>I know how it sounds and I don't want to start a pissing match but the facts are the facts.</div>
 
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Wallace picked up other offers, so we would've had to offer anyway.

I'm still not sure I buy the theory. It's Yancy-esque whether it's true or not. Considering you're going into next fall with 2 scholarship QBs right now, I don't doubt that a Juco QB would've been on your radar, even if he was a Plan C emergency QB option. If you had 4 or 5 scholarship QBs on your roster, I might buy the theory a little more.
 
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maroonmania

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for why we haven't ended up getting some of these recruits toward the end of the recruiting process. But the bottom line still remains, we didn't get them. We are just going to have to start being a little more creative in our ways though to reel in a few more of these high profile guys for Mullen to be able to reach his goals at MSU. Dan's been around this gig long enough now to know what's going on so hopefully we are getting better at dealing with some of it.
 
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Goat Grindin said:
but sorry, I just don't buy that we offered Wallace just to make Freeze up his walk-on offer to a full-ride offer. That's some black helicopter type stuff.
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</div><div>You're starting to sound like Diamondreb.</div>
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Think about who you are questioning here? He's Rosebowl without any contacts.
 
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croom followed ole miss around some yrs ago. i do agree that mullen "may" have ponied up for wallace so ole miss couldn't just get him w/o a sholly but if you think mullen didn't want him then you are more out of touch with recruiting than most. nutt may have followed msu around or not. hard to say cause the lazy sob didn't even start recuriting till late fall. so who knows where he got his targets.
 
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Ol Blue.sixpack

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patdog said:
And I believe it. Coach34 has as good of inside contacts in our athletic deptof anyone on the board.
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We know he's talked to that Bracky guy. Remember when Heydog played Peachbowl like a fiddleresultingina phone call to compliance?

One of the best ball-bustings in Sixpack history.

Might be worthy of a Sixpack rewind.
 
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Coach34

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between that and blowing him up on scheduling, he wont even post anymore. Too bad you arent smart enough to follow Hillbilly
 
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Coach34

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and you only makes posts about me<div>
</div><div>No, by all means, continue being the Stalker many of us know you to be...at least you dont send the private messages anymore since we embarrassed the **** out of you on those</div>
 
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match ole miss money. first, contrary to what a lot of ole miss people like to think, msu alums have plenty of money and except for our trial lawyers maybe more than our liberal arts majors. i also know enough of them to know they are willing to invest in success. now bama, auburn et al are a different story. bama makes one call and comes up with enough "inducement' to slam the door on olemiss or state. but between msu and ole miss the issue isn't lack of competitiveness in that area.
 
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Coach34 said:
and you only makes posts about me
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</div><div>No, by all means, continue being the Stalker many of us know you to be...at least you dont send the private messages anymore since we embarrassed the **** out of you on those
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  • only two screen names - oem and Ol Blue
  • still use the PM function frequently, I just have you blocked since you called my house
 
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most cases State and Ole Miss are about in the same boat on this issue as you point out. I will tell you that "the money is a little better from Ole Miss" comes from the mouth of a recruit not me**. There have been many threads on both our boards about the relative financial success of both alumni bases and the truth is there isn't much difference.
 
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maroonmania

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is NOT going to actively solicit that kind of booster help on a recruit AND the fact that UM just has more boosters and alumni in the state that relish getting involved in that way. Don't really believe its a matter of their boosters having significantly better resources than ours.
 
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and Alabama has 27 commits. Do JC recruits not count? Even if that were the case Bama has 25 commits and someone said in another thread they have 2 slots left?
 
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