Any news on R. Elliot's recovery?

ShaNaNa

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All I have heard is that he had a severe tear and has been botching out on his therapy. Would not expect to see him anytime soon if ever.
 

maroonmania

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in the last 2 football seasons SEVERELY injure legs and knees playing football while being essentially untouched by anyone (Riddell, Elliott and McRae).
 

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I've noticed that about ACLs. It rarely seems like an ACL tear occurs because of contact, and they rarely look like anything serious. Chris Warren was driving the lane when he tore his. I don't think he was bumped or anything, nor did it look like he landed all that funny. I remember Jamal Pittman tearing his while diving into the endzone once, and I don't think he was hit that hard, if at all. It looked harmless. I had a friend tear one in high school playing cornerback, and all he did was turn to cover a receiver. Riddell's ACL last year didn't look like much of anything either.
 

Coach33.sixpack

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Then Mullen needs to give him an option. Either you go to therapy and get this fixed, or you don't play for me. This guy is too talented to let go.
 

lawdawg02

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#2 - despite the ragging linton gets here, he and his staff actually are well-respected in their field. or at least so i heard.
 

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According to most PT's they are very well respected, and PT's are the ones who see the infection range of motion etc..
 

LR1400

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maroonmania said:
in the last 2 football seasons SEVERELY injure legs and knees playing football while being essentially untouched by anyone (Riddell, Elliott and McRae).
Most leg low extremity, especially ligament tears, are NON contact. An overwhelming majority.
 

dgsmith15

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I thought Elliott's injury occurred while he was going for the end zone during the LSU game. If I remember correctly, there was PLENTY of contact on that play.
 

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I heard Bruiser wrote on the surgeon sheet that it was supposed to be an amputation. Luckily, the staff caught it.
 

kired

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Yeah, if I remember correctly it was pretty much a direct shot to the front of the knee. Knee injuries are a strange thing - I injured mine sliding into a catcher once. Nothing seemed unusual (no big impact or twisting) except the fact that my knee was hurt when I got up.</p>
 

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kired said:
Yeah, if I remember correctly it was pretty much a direct shot to the front of the knee. Knee injuries are a strange thing - I injured mine sliding into a catcher once. Nothing seemed unusual (no big impact or twisting) except the fact that my knee was hurt when I got up.</p>
The first question is what position was the catcher in when you slid into them?

The second question is when did we start calling coeds catchers?
 

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came back to play again that was operated on by RL? This guy has been suspect for years in my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, but please tell me any successful major surgery where a kid came back to play. When Elliot had to have two surgeries for an ACL that is suspect right there. I have no idea why any of you have ever thought that this kid would make it back. I've been telling all of you since it happened he would never play again. GEEZ! Genespage too, but good luck with that crew. AND YES THE SPIN BEGINS..ITS ELLIOT'S FAULT BECAUSE HE'S NOT REHABBING RIGHT. CAN'T BE THE DOCTOR'S FAULT AT ALL! HERE WE GO AGAIN.
 

lawdawg02

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but his waiting list is ridiculous. i don't think he'd be interested in being a team doctor for any college. he's way past that.</p>
 

lawdawg02

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those doctors do those surgeries every day. if you don't work HARD in rehab, you aren't going to be the same.
 

vicious

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surgeons and bad ones. Just because a guy shoots a basketball everyday doesn't mean he will be a good bb player. Talent levels for surgeon are tremendously different. Your're either talented or you're not.
 

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dgsmith15 said:
I thought Elliott's injury occurred while he was going for the end zone during the LSU game. If I remember correctly, there was PLENTY of contact on that play.
I said MOST. Willis McGahee's was like Elliott's
 

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vicious said:
came back to play again that was operated on by RL? This guy has been suspect for years in my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, but please tell me any successful major surgery where a kid came back to play. When Elliot had to have two surgeries for an ACL that is suspect right there. I have no idea why any of you have ever thought that this kid would make it back. I've been telling all of you since it happened he would never play again. GEEZ! Genespage too, but good luck with that crew. AND YES THE SPIN BEGINS..ITS ELLIOT'S FAULT BECAUSE HE'S NOT REHABBING RIGHT. CAN'T BE THE DOCTOR'S FAULT AT ALL! HERE WE GO AGAIN.
It may very well be the doc. But in Elliott's case it won't be due to Rusty Linton or anyone else at Columbus Orthopedic because they DID NOT do any operations on Robert. Group in Jackson did.
 

lawdawg02

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and they still are for lots of athletes who never get back to their original form.

if our doctors weren't talented, then the injured players would be having problems. simply not being able to return to SEC competition doesn't mean that your doctor hacked up your knee. there are only so many ways to do ACL reconstruction. i'm not saying linton is as good as it gets, but he is well-respected in the field. so your logic that just because no msu players return from acl injuries means he is a hack is faulty.

i would give you quinton culberson's freshman broken leg as a player who had a severe injury and returned to be a great player.
 

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maroonmania said:
in the last 2 football seasons SEVERELY injure legs and knees playing football while being essentially untouched by anyone (Riddell, Elliott and McRae).
Riddell took shoulder pads to the shins. Guy dives at his feet. Helmet goes between Riddell's shins. Each shoulder pad went striaght into a shin. Both of Riddells's feet were planted. All the stress went straight to the knee ligaments.
 

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maroonmania said:
in the last 2 football seasons SEVERELY injure legs and knees playing football while being essentially untouched by anyone (Riddell, Elliott and McRae).
Riddell took shoulder pads to the shins. Guy dives at his feet. Helmet goes between Riddell's shins. Each shoulder pad went striaght into a shin. Both of Riddells's feet were planted. All the stress went straight to the knee ligaments.

Riddell torn his ACL on a roll out pass with no contact. I don't think there was a SC defender within 5 yards of him at the time.
 

dawgoneyall

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I get tired of people who don't have a damn clue disparaging the ability of someone, who by people in the know think are pretty damn good.

Ignorant 17heads.

With Orthopedic surgery sometimes it just can't be fixed back like it was before an injury and only a fool would think otherwise. People have different healing abilities and scarring propensity and lack of effort for rehab.

There. Anyone have a Icedawgs ringtone.
 

cajundawg

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RL did husband's knee. Radiologist said it was one of the worst knee injuries he had ever seen. Torn ACL, ruptured medial meniscus, multiple mini-fractures in femur and tibia (when they colided as he landed), and the largest joint effusion he had ever seen. The dang thing was swollen three times normal before we ever got him off the court. Couldn't do surgery for 10 days because the swelling was so bad. RL's partner said the surgery would take at least 4 hours. RL did it in 45 minutes. At times he can hardly walk on it. After many visits where RL waltzed in and out in a matter of seconds, it was obvious he did not care, nor wanted to acknowledge that the surgery was a failure. He spent the majority of the time quoting his success rates compared to the national average. Husband says it felt better before the surgery!
 

dgsmith15

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LR1400 said:
dgsmith15 said:
I thought Elliott's injury occurred while he was going for the end zone during the LSU game. If I remember correctly, there was PLENTY of contact on that play.
I said MOST. Willis McGahee's was like Elliott's
You may have said MOST, but you referenced Elliott after saying that most of the severe knee injuries happen with little, to no contact. In my opinion, by mentioning Elliott's name you are insinuating that his happened with little, to no contact.
 

dgsmith15

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vicious said:
When Elliot had to have two surgeries for an ACL that is suspect right there.
I don't know where you came up with the fact that he "had to have two surgeries for an ACL" injury, unless of course you are his physician. He elected to have two separate surgeries instead of one. Additionally, it was an ACL and MCL injury - not just the one.
 

rdhdawg

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RE's family opted to have two surgeries instead of fixing both ligaments at the same time. the football program was pissed at him for doing so b/c it makes for a much longer recovery. RE went with his own DR from what I understand. I don't think State's team did the op... The MSU docs may have done the actual operation, but a family doctor decided on two procedures instead of one. I don't know why RE would have consulted someone and then had a Dr who disagrees with that consult to do the actual op.
 

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lawdawg02 said:
if you don't work HARD in rehab, you aren't going to be the same.
I had shoulder surgery 10 years ago. My approach to rehab was to max out on everything the PT told me to do. If he told me to do 2-3 sets of 10-12 reps 3-4 times per week, I did 3 sets of 12 reps 4 times per week. And I never missed any scheduled visits to the PT. I'm convinced that's a big part of the reason I've never had a hint of trouble with that shoulder since, along with the fact I had a good surgeon.
 

War Machine Dawg

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When you watch the replay, it's pretty clear he injured his knee <span style="text-decoration: underline;">before</span> being hit. He planted his foot to make a cut, his cleat stuck in the ground, and you could see the knee torque. He favored the knee heavily for the next 4-5 steps, then went down in a pile.