Any screamo fans here?

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More or less. But even screamo has split into subgenres. I'm more of a post-hardcore fan but need clean vocals. It can't be just unclean vocals The funkier the better. Which leaves a very select handful of bands.

But pretty much anything that could be considered screamo.
 
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More or less. But even screamo has split into subgenres. I'm more of a post-hardcore fan but need clean vocals. It can't be just unclean vocals The funkier the better. Which leaves a very select handful of bands.

But pretty much anything that could be considered screamo.
What do you mean clean ans unclean vocals?
 

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Clean would be a traditional singer. Unclean would be the guttural singers, think death metal vocals.

Screamo, again depending on which variants were talking about, can have a mix or one over the other.

A Day To Remember is a perfect example. Their front man actually does both, he can go from clean vocals for the chorus and then unclean for the verses.
 

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Looking at Wikipedia a definition for screamo.. I like a lot of the older stuff.. The used, Alexisonfire, Thursday. I don't even recognize the later screamo bands they list.

Since then I've moved onto post-hardcore, mathcore and even some pop punk.. Genres that I guess were spinoffs(?): dance Gavin Dance, four year strong, issues, fall of Troy, pierce the veil, hail the sun, in angles, a lot like birds..
 

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Ha, the lyrics of this genre are throwaway. Literally like 99% I could care less what they write, because "Screamo" did come from "Emo".

But for me, the pop-punk cords, the clean to unclean vocal transitions, the breakdowns. It's Metal, in a lot of ways, but more accessible for me. That said a lot of the bands above really aren't Screamo, per se. They are far more technical and layered than what many would think of, like Evanescence, My Chemical Romance. etc
 

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I'm this far in and I still have no idea wtf screamo music is. The more lineski explains it...the more confused I get. I would check out the bands he listed...but he just said none of them are really screamo. Soooo...wtf is it?

Someone else wanna step in and give it a go? Or maybe just post a video or two.
 

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Yep, big fan. In fact, for my money, it's the best shaving cream on the market.


*hat tip to my main man Kook for the sandalwood rec
 
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I'm this far in and I still have no idea wtf screamo music is. The more lineski explains it...the more confused I get. I would check out the bands he listed...but he just said none of them are really screamo. Soooo...wtf is it?

Someone else wanna step in and give it a go? Or maybe just post a video or two.
Here is the quintessential screamo album from the original era of screamo in the 90s
 

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Here is the quintessential screamo album from the original era of screamo in the 90s

OK. Got it. Count me out then. Not a fan of that genre.

But I did like me some ATDI. Which was basically from the same time period. And they liked to scream and ramble and mutter incoherent lyrics and strum on guitars and stuff. But I don't think it's the same kind of thing. But maybe it is. What do I know? I'm no music theorist.

Anyway, ATDI is about the extent of my tastes in that direction.
 
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OK. Got it. Count me out then. Not a fan of that genre.

But I did like me some ATDI. Which was basically from the same time period. And they liked to scream and ramble and mutter incoherent lyrics and strum on guitars and stuff. But I don't think it's the same kind of thing. But maybe it is. What do I know? I'm no music theorist.

Anyway, ATDI is about the extent of my tastes in that direction.
Assuming ATDI is At The Drive-In, that is considered post-hardcore. If you like them, you should check out the album A to B Life by mewithoutyou. Their music changes quite considerably after that and am not really a fan of it. I saw them live shortly after they released that one and it was pretty good live.
 
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My college freshman year English professor did stuff out of the box. Instead of doing typical poetry stuff, he made us all pick a song and bring a copy of the lyrics for everyone and we would listen to it in class and analyze it. Predictably, most people brought non-sense radio type hits where there was basically no analysis needed because it was all BS. Basically a complete waste of everyone's life. I brought in a Saetia song. Reactions when the song started were [laughing] worthy. But the analysis of the lyrics at least took a while.
 

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@Kaizer Sosay What is it about that you didn't like? It's pretty math-core mixed with hardcore.. not really scremo to me, but doesn't seem to have any clean vocals (the vocals is really the biggest dividing factor).

These genres bleed so much into each other, it's hard to differentiate sometimes.

Funky, great clean vocals, still some "heft" to it. Technical. This is post-hardcore, but it's kind of.. on it's own.


Pop-punk, but fast. Whiny "emo"ish vocals.


More pop-punk, fast as well, but a little more metal and more traditional vocals.


Post-hardcore but bleeding into match-rock and a bit of prog-rock.


One of the original "Screamo" bands. Unclean vocals, but great musicians and a good clean vocalist in there.
 

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I could dig the first 4 in that post, but the last not so much. If that was the one that is closer to the genre, then count me out. I really like the mixed meter stuff in a couple of those.
 
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Ahh ok, that gives me something to work with.

Alexisonfire has the most "scream" or "unclean" vocals of those bunch, and that song opens with them. You might notice that as far as guitar and instrumental.. they aren't all that different.

You're a man of poppy riffs and actual "singing". Not the metal type.

Pop-punk (there's a reason "pop" is in it, some of the vocals verge on "boy band", but generally good music): Four year strong, Issues, Pierce The Veil, Say Anything, Neck Deep and the father of it all Blink-182.

Post-hardcore (less poppy, deeper in quality and musicianship, more technical, and you could find some unclean vocals): Dance Gavin Dance, Fall of Troy, In Angles, Emarosa, A Lot Like Birds, Hail the Sun.

I will say a lot of the above bands can, and do, fall under both categories.
 

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@Kaizer Sosay What is it about that you didn't like? It's pretty math-core mixed with hardcore.. not really scremo to me, but doesn't seem to have any clean vocals (the vocals is really the biggest dividing factor).

These genres bleed so much into each other, it's hard to differentiate sometimes.

Funky, great clean vocals, still some "heft" to it. Technical. This is post-hardcore, but it's kind of.. on it's own.


Pop-punk, but fast. Whiny "emo"ish vocals.


More pop-punk, fast as well, but a little more metal and more traditional vocals.


Post-hardcore but bleeding into match-rock and a bit of prog-rock.


One of the original "Screamo" bands. Unclean vocals, but great musicians and a good clean vocalist in there.
Dance Gavin Dance was significantly better with Craig leading. Although the same can be said for every group he's been in.
 

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Dance Gavin Dance was significantly better with Craig leading. Although the same can be said for every group he's been in.

Aint that the truth.. Sad. I don't really love "Slaves" either. I'm trying, but that band seems to be playing it safe, and his vocals just aren't what they used to be.

I do love DGD with Tillian.. but I think this setup has run it's course. I'm not sure I need a 4th DGD album with Tillian on it.

Emarosa now? Garbage
 

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Take this pop punk junk out of here. This is a damn screamo thread! Alexisonfire is great, back when I actually bought music I had all their stuff

True. We can keep it at Screamo.. but I'd say Issues and Pierce The Veil certainly have Screamo in them.. Blink, Neck Deep.. not so much. I also think Post-Hardcore is the natural progression of Screamo.

For me, the vocals really don't matter as long as I get some clean singing in there. The lyrics? Throwaway..

As long as it's heavy and fast, but melodic at the same time (Personally, can't get into metal for this reason).. I'm all about it.
 

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True. We can keep it at Screamo.. but I'd say Issues and Pierce The Veil certainly have Screamo in them.. Blink, Neck Deep.. not so much. I also think Post-Hardcore is the natural progression of Screamo.

For me, the vocals really don't matter as long as I get some clean singing in there. The lyrics? Throwaway..

As long as it's heavy and fast, but melodic at the same time (Personally, can't get into metal for this reason).. I'm all about it.

My girlfriend told me about screamo. Said her friend was listening to that all depressed and was in the process of transitioning from girl to a guy.
 

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You don't have to tell me twice about the Screamo-type people. Lots of weirdos. And for every smokeshow chick, there's like 50 more trolls..
 

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It’s not screamo. It’s genres and sub genres of music. Hardcore, metal core, deathcore, post-hardcore, speed metal, death metal. I know all types of bands. Winds of plague, the acacia strain, Attila, all shall perish, between the buried and me, as I lay dying, whitechapel, heaven shall burn, August burns red, etc
 

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I love metal. But I'm old. Traditional (Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, etc.) and thrash (Slayer, Megadeth, 83-88 Metallica, etc.,) are my go to subgenres. I dig some groove, sludge, death, stoner and crossover thrash as well.

Screamo is a little too outside my comfort/like zone. I do think it's hilarious that your average music fan will refer to any metal subgenre as sreamo. Of what I listen to I'm guessing Lamb of God is closest thing to screamo I like, but they're more of a metalcore/groove/post hardcore hybrid.
 

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I love metal. But I'm old. Traditional (Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, etc.) and thrash (Slayer, Megadeth, 83-88 Metallica, etc.,) are my go to subgenres. I dig some groove, sludge, death, stoner and crossover thrash as well.

Screamo is a little too outside my comfort/like zone. I do think it's hilarious that your average music fan will refer to any metal subgenre as sreamo. Of what I listen to I'm guessing Lamb of God is closest thing to screamo I like, but they're more of a metalcore/groove/post hardcore hybrid.
I consider lamb of god more along the lines of death metal but have some hardcore influences.
 
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I consider lamb of god more along the lines of death metal but have some hardcore influences.

Randy Blythe's vocals are definitely on the more guttural end like death metal, although their first two albums (which I don't really care for) are both screaming most of the time. That band's interesting, the musicians are all regular metal dudes and the singer is a punk/hardcore guy. I guess that's why they take a few elements from a lot of subs.
 

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Randy Blythe's vocals are definitely on the more guttural end like death metal, although their first two albums (which I don't really care for) are both screaming most of the time. That band's interesting, the musicians are all regular metal dudes and the singer is a punk/hardcore guy. I guess that's why they take a few elements from a lot of subs.
You’ll be surprised around how many bands are like this. Ever heard of the band Meshuggah?
 

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You’ll be surprised around how many bands are like this. Ever heard of the band Meshuggah?

I have. I haven't delved into their whole catalog, but I've liked most of what I've heard. One of my buddies loves them.
 

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I've listened to screamo since 1999. Three of my favorite bands of the genre are: Hopesfall, This Day Forward, and Taken.

Unfortunately, that genre of music has been completely dead since the late 2000s.
 

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@Kaizer Sosay What is it about that you didn't like? It's pretty math-core mixed with hardcore.. not really scremo to me, but doesn't seem to have any clean vocals (the vocals is really the biggest dividing factor).

These genres bleed so much into each other, it's hard to differentiate sometimes.

Funky, great clean vocals, still some "heft" to it. Technical. This is post-hardcore, but it's kind of.. on it's own.


Pop-punk, but fast. Whiny "emo"ish vocals.


More pop-punk, fast as well, but a little more metal and more traditional vocals.


Post-hardcore but bleeding into match-rock and a bit of prog-rock.


One of the original "Screamo" bands. Unclean vocals, but great musicians and a good clean vocalist in there.


The Fall of Troy and Four Year Strong songs were not bad.
 

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LineSki and I have discussed this not too long ago. I'm a big fan of DGD in spite of the fact that I normally don't like "their" type of music. Another solid choice is Good Tiger. Their drummer is from a ton of extremely technical metal bands and the rest of the band (sans singer) is from another awesome band named the Safety Fire (RIP).

Not a fan of ATDI, preferred The Mars Volta but I'm a progressive rock kind of guy. Old Screamo, to me, wasn't great but was important for the development of other types of music that I've grown to enjoy. Do yourself a favor and listen to the song Doomsday by The Architects, while you're at it. Actually, here are a few hits I enjoy:







 
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Wow. . . that is really awful. . . in my opinion of course. . . to each their own.

The Fall of Troy and Four Year Strong songs were not bad.

It's funny to see a pop-punk-ish band with beards. They look more like a Metal band. Some vocals here come close to Fall Out Boy.. so that could be hit or miss for you.


A similar band, more skater-rock.. sorry.. more genres ha.


A recent find, for me at least.. A lighter Fall of Troy I guess, more melancholy, but still technically there. Math-rock inspired.


Post-hardcore, maybe at it's finest. This band can wail. Some vicious clean and unclean vocals and silly guitars. But, might not be for everyone..



This one is off in it's own corner. Pop-punk, with electronic and metal underneath. You'll have to get past the intro vocals to get to Tyler Carter's.. which are pretty fantastic.


Original singer from Dance Gavin Dance.. sort still has the soulfoul voice.
 

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Definitely not screamo but my 2 favorite bands as of now are Asking Alexandria who has clean vocals and growls and the second is Parkway Drive who is all growls except for maybe 1-2 songs.