Anybody been to the Ark Park yet?

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Does he explain the aquatic life too...you know since some are fresh water and some salt so how did they survive, or how Noah must have known about microbacteria.

Or that there's no sedimentary evidence of a great flood
....."is built upon the famous Ordovician rocks of the Cincinnati Arch, which span millions of years of the later Ordovician. If you poke around the slopes all around the area (as I have often), you will find hundreds of finely laminated layers of shales and limestones, each full of delicate fossils of trilobites and bryozoans and brachiopods preserved in life position that could never have been disturbed by flood waters—and each layer of hundreds represents another community of marine organisms that grew and lived and then was gently buried in fine silts and clays. There is no possibility these hundreds of individual layers of delicately preserved fossils were deposited in a single "Noah's flood." (Prothero 2007: pp. 62)"

Anyway, my actual point..... 18 million is tax payer subsidy...wonder if there are any other things in KY we could have spent that on. Our world could probably know how to teleport by now...but this is what we invest in.
Yeah retraining miners, fixing infrastructure or attracting high paying jobs for example.

Gotta hand it to Bevin though for having the nads to pull the tax breaks from them before they won the case in court. Tons of religious people voted for that guy and he really didn't seem to care.
 
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You don't believe that. The reason it got built is $$$$$$$$$$$$.

Yea I do believe it, no one was backing it until Bill Nye decided he was going to debate Hamm, then it got personal to alot of people. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Nye isn't backing it financially.

If you guys would just let it be it'll slowly fade away, but as in anything in life when its confrontational, people tend to dig their heels in.
 

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Yea I do believe it, no one was backing it until Bill Nye decided he was going to debate Hamm, then it got personal to alot of people. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Nye isn't backing it financially.

If you guys would just let it be it'll slowly fade away, but as in anything in life when its confrontational, people tend to dig their heels in
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I actually want to go. I'd go to Holy Land here in Orlando if they actually had good rides.
 

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I am a Christian, but even I do not believe the literal story of the Ark, nor of the Garden of Eden. Believe it to be an allegory of the creation. There is a lot of the Bible that is not literal, and was not meant to be literal, e.g., the story of Job, that is a bet between God and Satan as to what will happen to Job if you take away all his family and possessions. Do not believe that really happened.

I really do believe in the New Testament

That being said, I will not go see the Ark, and have never been to the Creation Museum either.
What are you scared of? Worried that these self anointed smart guys on here won't like you anymore. Afraid you won't be able to set at the "cool" table. I don't care what these guys on here say. It's just ignorance or their part.
 

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What are you scared of? Worried that these self anointed smart guys on here won't like you anymore. Afraid you won't be able to set at the "cool" table. I don't care what these guys on here say. It's just ignorance or their part.

Cawood, so guilt shaming Tsk is the sensible Christian thing to do, I see.

Us ignorant heathens are all looking for the Fonzis of the world.
 
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An atheist always tried to define Gods meaning and of course everyone of them is a biblical scholar.

Research the concept of God vs. Slavery, from an actual scholar of the bible. For anyone that read that above. I won't get into it.
They just like to bash. Makes them feel superior. If you really want to get them fired up, post scriptures. their heads spin and they spewing from the mouth. Very entertaining.
 
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Cawood, so guilt shaming Tsk is the sensible Christian thing to do, I see.

Us ignorant heathens are all looking for the Fonzis of the world.
Didn't mean as shaming. Just be firm in what you believe. I believe. Don't care what others think of that. I don't discount my faith because of things others don't believe because I worry what they will think of me. Their unbelief is their choice.
Just not afraid of my faith or the Bible.
 

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Didn't mean as shaming. Just be firm in what you believe. I believe. Don't care what others think of that. I don't discount my faith because of things others don't believe because I worry what they will think of me. Their unbelief is their choice.
Just not afraid of my faith or the Bible.

I agree with that. Good post.
 

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Didn't mean as shaming. Just be firm in what you believe. I believe. Don't care what others think of that. I don't discount my faith because of things others don't believe because I worry what they will think of me. Their unbelief is their choice.
Just not afraid of my faith or the Bible.

 

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Cawood, so guilt shaming Tsk is the sensible Christian thing to do, I see.

Us ignorant heathens are all looking for the Fonzis of the world.

That guilt is the natural emotion the soul possesses when theres a break between the individual and God.

At the least I'd be open to the idea. Don't really think an Athiest can exist anyway, agnostic maybe.
 

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Always know the "real" truth huh? Just wish you could be more present. Complete ignorance is very entertaining.

Like i said, all hardened agnostics are biblical scholars.

Did I mention they're all scientist too?
 

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Absolutely is. Maybe you're getting grief confused with guilt. Which grief is natural but guult most definitely isnt natural

Nope.

A break between God and his child results in natural guilt because it's not intended.

Willy, damnit dude, confront your fear.
 

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I hope they stop by house first. I would pay to see that.
I'm assuming you meant my house. I know in your rush to pump out 15 responses in a span of 2 minutes you probably made this simple mistake. And I agree. Considering I live 2000+ miles away it would be very entertaining to see a bus load of morons stop by my house on their way to see the dumbest $100 million dollar exhibit ever built.
 
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Didn't mean as shaming. Just be firm in what you believe. I believe. Don't care what others think of that. I don't discount my faith because of things others don't believe because I worry what they will think of me. Their unbelief is their choice.
Just not afraid of my faith or the Bible.

Nothing says I don't care what others think like continually posting I don't care what others think in a thread.
 

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Yea I do believe it, no one was backing it until Bill Nye decided he was going to debate Hamm, then it got personal to alot of people. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Nye isn't backing it financially.

If you guys would just let it be it'll slowly fade away, but as in anything in life when its confrontational, people tend to dig their heels in.

I see your point. I was thinking of the initial business plan Hamm's people did estimating the annual income from park visitors. I imagine the confrontation did help rally support for the construction, but I doubt the creationists would have proposed the idea if they didn't expect to make money off it.
 

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Always know the "real" truth huh? Just wish you could be more present. Complete ignorance is very entertaining.

I don't always know the truth, but I think I care more about knowing it than you.
 

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What are you scared of? Worried that these self anointed smart guys on here won't like you anymore. Afraid you won't be able to set at the "cool" table. I don't care what these guys on here say. It's just ignorance or their part.

It's not fear, or wanting to be cool, that explains why many Christians view a lot of the Old Testament as allegory or parable. It's that man was endowed with intelligence and the ability to study and learn about the world. Throwing around insults - scared, desire to fit in, etc... - does not seem very productive. It seems smug, frankly, which given complaints that many Christians have with aethiests and agnostics, is ironic.
 

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I'm assuming you meant my house. I know in your rush to pump out 15 responses in a span of 2 minutes you probably made this simple mistake. And I agree. Considering I live 2000+ miles away it would be very entertaining to see a bus load of morons stop by my house on their way to see the dumbest $100 million dollar exhibit ever built.
I can't respond that fast if I wanted to, I have the typing skills of a 2 year old.
 
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Yes. Shame is 100% taught. That isn't debatable. You cant have guilt without shame.
Sure you can. People can have guilt associated with an action that only they know about. There wouldn't be shame associated with an action that no one else knows about, or ever will know about.
 

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Sure you can. People can have guilt associated with an action that only they know about. There wouldn't be shame associated with an action that no one else knows about, or ever will know about.

Man, no offense. But what are you talking about? That absolutely makes no sense.

Look, I'll put it in your own biblical terms. Adam and Eve were given commands (taught) that they should not do. What did Eve do? She went against God's word. What happened to the once free and liberal Eve who was running around the Garden of Eden butt *** naked with Adam and his large Caucasian penis hanging out? They covered that **** up. Why? Because God taught them shame. Everything that happened to those wiley and crazy couple was the response of shame.

Shame is taught. Just like anxiety. Fear is taught. All conditioned behaviors.
 
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And some of us never acquire it, either

Yep. Like social liberal hippie compounds?

Instead of "don't touch that". They teach "Let's keep our hands to ourselves".

The problem with shame is also the tone voice that is used when teaching it. You can't teach shame with a pleasing voice because it's sends mixed signals to the person being taught. The right side of the brain zeroes on tone and rhythm. Regardless of age or dementia, the right side of our brains pretty much remains intact. Which is why sooooooo GD many older adults have so many emotional related disorders. A lot of it stemming from shame.
 
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What baffles me about the human growth process. If you look at Piaget's model on cognitive development and combine with early 1900 psychoanalysis. You would see that shame is taught before the brain fully develops the abstract mind to understand it. As shame is taught through the more pre-operational and concrete stages of cognitive devlopment
 
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