Anyone care to guess which game Tyler Russell plays in

Smooot2

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My guess is that they give Relf as much work as they can get away with... TR will play this season, so you have to get him into this game. They're just going to bring him along <span style="font-style: italic;">slowly</span>.
 

BigMotherTucker

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that he will NOT rs this year, makes me believe that he will get in on one of the first few series of the jstate game. 2qtr maybe.
 

topdawg.sixpack

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Depending on Lee's performance and Russell's ability to learn the play book....starting at Houston makes sense, weak defense and that game is followed by Middle TN State.
 

bonedaddy401

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but we don't know how Mullen operates with personnel yet. For all we know we could see Bumphis takes snaps early on.
 

msudawg12

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I hope that Tyson has a GREAT game in the first half and then we let Relf go in the 2nd half until the end when we can allow Russell to get "an idea" and nothing more about college football.

The less he plays in game 1 the better our season will go
 

bonedaddy401

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Mullen just seems like he would do it to get the crowd into it if it does get ugly quick. Lets hope it gets ugly quick......
 

Coach34

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I dont see him taking a snap before we are up 30...thing is, I dont think its going to take long for us to be up 30....Hell, even Crooms blew out SE La- both are very comparable....

Lee is the solid #1, and Relf's ability to run the football will keep him ahead of Russell for the short-term...Russell is going to be put in there to throw the football, not run it. And until these young WR's get acclimated to college football, we arent going to be throwing it any more than necessary to keep defenses honest.
 

bonedaddy401

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If/when he puts Russell in the fans get excited, it shows recruits and other players the future ect ect.......same thing he did with Tebow. Now Russell is a long way from even holding Tebows jock but T. Lee is just as far away from holding Chris Leaks.
 

Coach34

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you dont want to put a QB that is not ready yet and have him go out there and look like ****. Tyson Lee is our starting QB until he gets hurt in 2009 or until the season has gone south and he can use the last few games to get Russell all the experience he can for next season.</p>

Russell as starting QB in 2009 is not a good thing.</p>
 

Coach34

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they struggled a little with Leak at QB. They played Tebow because he made them better on offense. He gave them a dimension they didnt have with Leak.

The jury is still out if we can be better on offense by playing Russell. I dont think we will in the beginning. Its going to take him some time to adjust to college football, and it is going to take some time for the young WR's to adjust. Putting in a throwing QB into an offense that is going to take a little time to get their WR ready isnt the best of plans. We need a mobile threat at QB, especially early in the season while guys are getting experience.
 

Stormrider81

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This guy is a true freshman. He is simply not going to be ready early on. He will see mop-up duty only in the first few games, or at least I hope. If he is in there during crucial portions of the game, we are in deep trouble.

Tebow played because a) he was an all world, once in a decade type athlete and b) because he could run the football. You didn't see Tebow throwing it much that first season.
 

Coach34

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You need to remember- Lee needs reps and so does Relf...and they will be 1 and 2 going into the J-State game
 

ckDOG

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And until these young WR's get acclimated to college football, we arent going to be throwing it any more than necessary to keep defenses honest.
Lee will most likely be the solid #1 exiting practice. But, what you said is why I actually think we see Relf more than most are anticipating. We just won't have the experienced WRs throw the ball to. We do, however, have a pretty nice stable of RB's. I don't know if it would be accurate to say we will be a "run first" team. But, I'd be willing to say we will be far better executing the run plays versus pass plays in Year 1. If we have a fall back, it will be a running play. I see Relf as far better, reliable, more durable runner than Tyson.

From the little I understand about Mullen's offense (thank you, smartfootball.blogspot.com), a mobile QB is preferred so that the offense is in a +1 position on personnel that can block or run. Tyson can scramble, but I'm not so sure the little guy can block or run effectively (especially over time - wee-man bones break). Relf, just by the size of him, can be more useful in running plays (option, blocking, etc.) than would Tyson.

Plus, Relf can more likely force the defense to devote a guy on to have to both cover the QB on the option/run play and have to drop back quickly to cover in pass situations. That's the huge win area of the spread option offense with a dual threat QB.

Of course, the downside to Relf is that he tends not be able to hit the broad side of a barn - so the defense may not have to respect him as a dual threat.

Tyson = safe play with limited capabilities on offense.
Relf = high risk/high return. Potential dual-threat.

The fan in me, who has nothing to lose, says put in Relf and see what happens. But, I don't make my living by making personnel decisions. It will be interesting to see if they go the risky route or the safe route while easing everyone into the system.
 

Coach34

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no doubt we prefer a mobile QB. Lee is mobile enough to run it a little, but the more hits he takes, obviously he is going to break eventually. We cant count on him for 12 games to stay healthy. I think Relf coming in and spelling him will help prolong that.

Russell is the future for us. But he is a passing QB. He wont ever be known for his running ability. For him to be most effective, he needs some WR's that can spread the field and catch the ball. Until we get more of those people on the field, Russell is not the best option.

Instead of hoping to see Russell play, people need to hope Lee stays healthy, and the young WR's develop as quickly as possible. The WR's will make Russell necessary.
 

gbuck.sixpack

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i agree in the fact we'll see a lot more of relf than many believe. but i also would expect to see as much of russell as possible since he's not redshirting. i would say come out starting the 2nd half jsu is when we see him and depending on how he looks will determine next game. probably houston is the earliest he is starter