Anyone else enduring this flu bug that's going around?

[Gamecock Jacque]

As soon as I posted that I don't get the flu without a shot I came down with a 36 hour stomach bug lol.

 

[bayrooster]

As soon as I posted that I don't get the flu without a shot I came down with a 36 hour stomach bug lol.

Not food poisoning?

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Not food poisoning?

I guess that's possible.

 

[18IsTheMan]

2 Independent studies - no drug companies - one group with saline and the other with the flu shot..... one showed no difference between the two groups at all, the other showed you were around 4 times more likely to get some other type of respiratory illness if you DID take it. Most flu shot studies are giving one group the flu shot vs the other group, the pneumonia shot. Or one group the flu shot and the other group everything that's in the shot except for one thing.

Then there are the studies (like the one in bengladesh) that show HEAVILY manipulated numbers to cater results to show what they're trying to prove (in this case that pregnant people need the shot or risk problems with their child).... They whittled those results down to 86 people... That's after questionable data collection .... AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY REFERENCE THIS USELESS STUDY.... Well, not people .... It's always drug companies.

Again, I say.... Worthless money maker

Can you link to the referenced studies? I can find "studies" online to prove that the earth is flat. Dozens of them.

Clinical data aside, how would you explain the dramatic plummeting flu morbidity and mortality rates following development of a vaccine? Just 100+ years of dumb luck?

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

This is the Covid ''vaccine's'' favorite song

You Give Flu Shots A Bad Name

 

[ThinnyJ]

Can you link to the referenced studies? I can find "studies" online to prove that the earth is flat. Dozens of them.

Clinical data aside, how would you explain the dramatic plummeting flue morbidity and mortality rates following development of a vaccine? Just 100+ years of dumb luck?

Well, I could say the same about the polio vaccine... That seems to be the "gold standard" everyone uses to prove all things good about vaccines, because there was an immediate drop in polio at the time the vac was introduced... but look at the line graph of all of those communicable diseases at the same time. They dropped almost as dramatically as polio at that time. Many believe it is because of the sterilization and hand washing techniques that began at that time. The vaccine gets praised as the sole silver bullet, but that's simply not the case.

I'm not anti-vax, and had I been raising children at that time, we would have been in line for a polio vaccine. I am, however, anti-misinformation and anti-government control... The problem I have it there is no such thing as informed consent. Doctor's know very very little about vaccines.

Our residents tell me the only thing they are told about vaccines is that children need to be up to date and they are given a cdc vax schedule - nothing else - then look at you like you have 2 heads and tell you you don't care about your child if you question anything.

But when the creators of the flu shot are quoted as saying it's efficacy is "questionable, at best" and were not at all in favor of the public push it got, money becomes a factor.

If nothing else makes people question vaccines at all (other than COVID)... Then the Gardisil vaccine alone should make people read for themselves. It is dangerous. My child reacting to a vaccine is the reason I researched so heavily... I'm very glad I did.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Doctor's know very very little about vaccines.

That sounds reasonable.

 

[ThinnyJ]

That sounds reasonable.

Ok.... Doctors who care not to study them for themselves know very little about vaccines. Apparently, there isnt much they have to know about them to get through school.... At least not enough to give truly "informed consent."
And those I know testify to that.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Can you link to the referenced studies? I can find "studies" online to prove that the earth is flat. Dozens of them.

Clinical data aside, how would you explain the dramatic plummeting flu morbidity and mortality rates following development of a vaccine? Just 100+ years of dumb luck?

And polio vax?

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Ok.... Doctors who care not to study them for themselves know very little about vaccines. Apparently, there isnt much they have to know about them to get through school.... At least not enough to give truly "informed consent."
And those I know testify to

Ok.... Doctors who care not to study them for themselves know very little about vaccines. Apparently, there isnt much they have to know about them to get through school.... At least not enough to give truly "informed consent."
And those I know testify to that.

Yes, there are terrible doctors out there. In the profession for the wrong reasons. One of my best friends became a doctor because he liked sailing yachts. That's all. His reviews were terrible. But he didn't care. He always had a job. What do they need to be taught about vaccines in med school that they aren't being taught? Can you tell me?

 

[Rock Hill Cock]

Since covid woke me up to the total farce everything we are told is...I have felt like i was getting the flu 6x. I had cough, runny nose, severe body aches, fever, cold chills, etc. 5x I did my conspiracy theory remedy and within 4 hours I started to improve. Never got fully sick. The other time I was working in Germany and was unable to get my conspiracy treatment and I was sick for a week.

My wife, a friend of mine, and a renter of mine have used the same treatment and none of us have not gotten fully sick since then. The success rate is about 13/13.

I go to tractor supply and take ivermectin. I also if possible use a sauna and drink a gin/tonic.

The vaccine industry is the greatest scam in human history except for fiat currency/usury.

Koch's postulates been never been fully proven. They've never fully proven viral sickness causality. Nearly every disease was mostly eliminated before the advent of the respective vaccine.

I’m curious: how do you dose the ivermectin? Had someone tell me his father in law put a “few” drops in juice every morning and cured colon cancer.

 

[18IsTheMan]

And polio vax?

Yes. Diseases which ran rampant through society thousands of years spontaneously either disappeared entirely or were reduced to insignificance at the same time as, but totally unrelated to, vaccines for those diseases.

 

[3USC1801]

I’m curious: how do you dose the ivermectin? Had someone tell me his father in law put a “few” drops in juice every morning and cured colon cancer.

Easy. You divide the weight of a common horse by the number of “servings” on the package to get a weight-per-dose ratio, and then convert it to your weight/dose. Just plain horse sense.

/s

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Yes. Diseases which ran rampant through society thousands of years spontaneously either disappeared entirely or were reduced to insignificance at the same time as, but totally unrelated to, vaccines for those diseases.

Anti-vax rhetoric & disinfo has been around before most of us were born. Winchell was the Alex Jones of his day.

Walter Winchell, the influential newspaper columnist and radio personality, significantly impacted public perception of Jonas Salk's polio vaccine by suggesting it "may be a killer" on his radio show just before trials, scaring many parents, despite Salk's work proving safe; Winchell's scare tactics, alongside anti-vaccine efforts, highlighted early public resistance to vaccination.

 

[bayrooster]

Anti-vax rhetoric & disinfo has been around before most of us were born. Winchell was the Alex Jones of his day.

Source? For some reason Wikipedia's editors didn't see fit to mention that in his bio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell

 

[18IsTheMan]

Anti-vax rhetoric & disinfo has been around before most of us were born. Winchell was the Alex Jones of his day.

Smallpox just got tired of killing 300 million people in the 20th century and decided to quit and go away for ever. Had nothing to do with the vaccine.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Source? For some reason Wikipedia's editors didn't see fit to mention that in his bio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Winchell

Simple search:

Walter Winchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In his radio and television broadcasts on April 4, 1954, Winchell helped stoke public fear of the polio vaccine. He said, "Good evening, Mr. and Mrs. America ... and all the ships at sea. Attention everyone. In a few moments I will report on a new polio vaccine claimed to be a polio cure. It may be a killer." Winchell claimed that the U.S. Public Health Services found live polio viruses in seven of ten vaccine batches it tested, reporting, "It killed several monkeys ... the United States Public Health Service will confirm this in about 10 days." Jonas Salk, developer of the polio vaccine, immediately responded that the vaccine, which had been recently tested on 7,500 schoolchildren at the University of Pittsburgh, had been triple tested for the absence of live virus by its manufacturers, the National Institutes of Health, and his own research lab, and that similar testing would continue to screen out batches containing live virus.

Paranoid Gossip about Polio Vaccine

Originally published in June 1954

www.scientificamerican.com

Vaccinations Have Always Been Controversial in America | Essay, Nexus | Zócalo Public Square

In 1952, Americans suffered the worst polio epidemic in our nation’s history. As in prior outbreaks, the disease spread during the summer, mainly

www.zocalopublicsquare.org

 

[bayrooster]

Simple search:

Walter Winchell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Paranoid Gossip about Polio Vaccine

Originally published in June 1954

www.scientificamerican.com

Vaccinations Have Always Been Controversial in America | Essay, Nexus | Zócalo Public Square

In 1952, Americans suffered the worst polio epidemic in our nation’s history. As in prior outbreaks, the disease spread during the summer, mainly

www.zocalopublicsquare.org

Seems like he was the only prominent person to criticize Salk's work. It doesn't appear that he pursued it further than the story he hyped on one radio show. Good thing it didn't change the public's opinion of vaccines. I only remember Salk as being considered a hero for his work.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Well, I could say the same about the polio vaccine... That seems to be the "gold standard" everyone uses to prove all things good about vaccines, because there was an immediate drop in polio at the time the vac was introduced... but look at the line graph of all of those communicable diseases at the same time. They dropped almost as dramatically as polio at that time. Many believe it is because of the sterilization and hand washing techniques that began at that time. The vaccine gets praised as the sole silver bullet, but that's simply not the case.

I'm not anti-vax, and had I been raising children at that time, we would have been in line for a polio vaccine. I am, however, anti-misinformation and anti-government control... The problem I have it there is no such thing as informed consent. Doctor's know very very little about vaccines.

Our residents tell me the only thing they are told about vaccines is that children need to be up to date and they are given a cdc vax schedule - nothing else - then look at you like you have 2 heads and tell you you don't care about your child if you question anything.

But when the creators of the flu shot are quoted as saying it's efficacy is "questionable, at best" and were not at all in favor of the public push it got, money becomes a factor.

If nothing else makes people question vaccines at all (other than COVID)... Then the Gardisil vaccine alone should make people read for themselves. It is dangerous. My child reacting to a vaccine is the reason I researched so heavily... I'm very glad I did.

You should certainly discuss all of this with all of your friends in your Smallpox and Polio Survivors Support Group.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Vaccines used to contain dead or significantly weakened viruses for your body to produce natural antibodies and natural immunity for. Today's vaccines change your DNA.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Bioengineering has streamlined the process and changed the safety and efficacy of foods and drugs produced. Definitely not for the better.
Speeding up the approval process is driven by the $$$ and human life is being sacrificed.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Seems like he was the only prominent person to criticize Salk's work. It doesn't appear that he pursued it further than the story he hyped on one radio show. Good thing it didn't change the public's opinion of vaccines. I only remember Salk as being considered a hero for his work.

And Winchell died not a well-liked person, but it does show that vax debates and criticisms are not something new.