Appalachian Power to rely half on coal, half on renewable energy

[moe]

Breaking news for Trump and the other dinosaurs on this board, the nation and the world is going green....Paris agreement or not, there's no turning back. Adding wind energy and rates remain the same, who says that green energy can't compete?

As the company starts to work with new employers, the demand for new energy sources increases.

“A lot of the things that we’re hearing from them is they have their own mandated requirements that they have to meet from their board of directors like you have to be so green or so much CO2 less per year and they look at us and say ‘can you offer that?'” Beam said. “If the answer is no, then the development goes away from the state of West Virginia.”

http://wvmetronews.com/2017/07/10/appalachian-power-to-rely-half-on-coal-half-on-renewable-energy/

 

[EEResistable]

Any government subsidies mentioned?

 

[op2]

Right after Trump re-creates all those coal jobs from 50 years ago he's going to re-create the jobs for the people that made rotary telephones.

 

[moe]

Any government subsidies mentioned?

Give me a call and I'll read it to you.

CHARLESTON, W.Va. — The goal of Appalachian Power Company is to rely 50 percent on coal and 50 percent on renewable energy, according to the company’s president.

“The intent is to get coal down to about 50 percent, stay there and then bring the other resources up,” Chris Beam said on last week’s MetroNews “Talkline.”

As the company starts to work with new employers, the demand for new energy sources increases.

“A lot of the things that we’re hearing from them is they have their own mandated requirements that they have to meet from their board of directors like you have to be so green or so much CO2 less per year and they look at us and say ‘can you offer that?'” Beam said. “If the answer is no, then the development goes away from the state of West Virginia.”

Appalachian Power previously announced its desire to acquire two wind facilities: one at the Hardin wind facility in Ohio and the other at the Beech Ridge II wind facility in Greenbrier County, West Virginia.

Beam said they want to further diversify their energy portfolio to attract more business to the Mountain State.

“What we’re trying to do is trying to be able to make sure we can offer those things to stay on the same playing field as others, so we can bring economic development to the state,” he said.

Other energy sources would include natural gas, Beam said, and that it won’t come at any additional cost.

“The rates will not rise with the wind filing. They’re rate neutral,” he said. “There’s been a lot of pressure on our rates in the state and what we’re trying to do is diversify, but trying also not to also raise the rates, so these are kind of win-wins for everybody if we can do this.”

If Appalachian Power is approved for the two wind projects, the company will have more than 1,000 megawatts of wind and hydro generation, enough to power more than 230,000 homes.

 

[MountaineerWV]

This is "fake" news........coal is coming back, Trump told us so.

 

[EEResistable]

If wind can produce the same amount of power for the same price as coal we should switch to wind power exclusively.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Give me a call and I'll read it to you.

CHARLESTON, W.Va. — The goal of Appalachian Power Company is to rely 50 percent on coal and 50 percent on renewable energy, according to the company’s president.

“The intent is to get coal down to about 50 percent, stay there and then bring the other resources up,” Chris Beam said on last week’s MetroNews “Talkline.”

As the company starts to work with new employers, the demand for new energy sources increases.

“A lot of the things that we’re hearing from them is they have their own mandated requirements that they have to meet from their board of directors like you have to be so green or so much CO2 less per year and they look at us and say ‘can you offer that?'” Beam said. “If the answer is no, then the development goes away from the state of West Virginia.”

Appalachian Power previously announced its desire to acquire two wind facilities: one at the Hardin wind facility in Ohio and the other at the Beech Ridge II wind facility in Greenbrier County, West Virginia.

Beam said they want to further diversify their energy portfolio to attract more business to the Mountain State.

“What we’re trying to do is trying to be able to make sure we can offer those things to stay on the same playing field as others, so we can bring economic development to the state,” he said.

Other energy sources would include natural gas, Beam said, and that it won’t come at any additional cost.

“The rates will not rise with the wind filing. They’re rate neutral,” he said. “There’s been a lot of pressure on our rates in the state and what we’re trying to do is diversify, but trying also not to also raise the rates, so these are kind of win-wins for everybody if we can do this.”

If Appalachian Power is approved for the two wind projects, the company will have more than 1,000 megawatts of wind and hydro generation, enough to power more than 230,000 homes.

 

[op2]

If wind can produce the same amount of power for the same price as coal we should switch to wind power exclusively.

Does the cost of the pollution generated by each count in the price?

 

[EEResistable]

Does the cost of the pollution generated by each count in the price?

No. Just price per kw/hour without subsidies.

 

[moe]

Ummmm no not really. The answer was no but the poster is too lazy to open a link.

 

[op2]

No. Just price per kw/hour without subsidies.

And how do you define subsidy? Some would define the fact that all of society has to pay for the pollution instead of the energy producer as a subsidy to the producer.

If you can produce something for $20 and not create a mess in the process whereas I can produce it for $18 and create a giant mess in the process that costs everybody else (but not me) money to clean up, why should I be allowed to claim my product is cheaper? The only reason it's cheaper is because I'm shoving the costs of making it onto others.

 

[moe]

If wind can produce the same amount of power for the same price as coal we should switch to wind power exclusively.

Not really but keep reading about the subject for greater understanding.

 

[EEResistable]

Not really but keep reading about the subject for greater understanding.

Having been in the energy business for 30 years I imagine I have forgotten more about it than you have ever known.

 

[moe]

Having been in the energy business for 30 years I imagine I have forgotten more about it than you have ever known.

You post like you've spent 30 days in it but I guess that's your version of anti-green energy humor that fell flat.

 

[EEResistable]

You post like you've spent 30 days in it but I guess that's your version of anti-green energy humor that fell flat.

I just need to stop trying to educate the blissful ignorant such as yourself.

 

[TarHeelEer]

If you can produce something for $20 and not create a mess in the process in the same way as the other guy, whereas I can produce it for $18 and create a giant mess

fify

 

[op2]

fify

I don't understand the relevance of the change. Whether the mess has to be cleaned up is what's relevant, not how the mess was created.

 

[moe]

I just need to stop trying to educate the blissful ignorant such as yourself.

lol I'm sorry that you don't like AP's president's comments.

 

[TarHeelEer]

I don't understand the relevance of the change. Whether the mess has to be cleaned up is what's relevant, not how the mess was created.

Going to hybrid cars doesn't help when electricity still creates a mess. Going to solar panels doesn't help when making the solar panels is just as messy for the lifetime of the panel.

 

[dave]

Breaking news for Trump and the other dinosaurs on this board, the nation and the world is going green....Paris agreement or not, there's no turning back. Adding wind energy and rates remain the same, who says that green energy can't compete?

As the company starts to work with new employers, the demand for new energy sources increases.

“A lot of the things that we’re hearing from them is they have their own mandated requirements that they have to meet from their board of directors like you have to be so green or so much CO2 less per year and they look at us and say ‘can you offer that?'” Beam said. “If the answer is no, then the development goes away from the state of West Virginia.”

http://wvmetronews.com/2017/07/10/appalachian-power-to-rely-half-on-coal-half-on-renewable-energy/

That is great news for local coal. Half their production will be coal so there will be more coal used by AEP than there is now.

 

[moe]

That is great news for local coal. Half their production will be coal so there will be more coal used by AEP than there is now.

That's all very interesting but this is a thread about Appalachian Power, not their parent company AEP. As of 2016, 70% of AP's energy was coal generated so going to 50% coal is a move towards greener energy generation, good for them. In 2016 they had zero wind (or solar) energy in their portfolio.
https://www.appalachianpower.com/gl...facts/factsheets/APCoOverallFactSheet6-17.pdf

 

[bornaneer]

Breaking news for Trump and the other dinosaurs on this board, the nation and the world is going green....Paris agreement or not, there's no turning back. Adding wind energy and rates remain the same, who says that green energy can't compete?

You have truly gone off the deep end......Your hatred knows no bounds. When did Trump or ANYONE on this board say we should NOT utilize OR encourage green energy usage.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Having been in the energy business for 30 years I imagine I have forgotten more about it than you have ever known.

Funny how you can claim this but when someone was in another field for 30 years (education, perhaps) you right wingers have all the answers and those people with the experience don't. Huh.....amazing.....[eyeroll]

 

[dave]

That's all very interesting but this is a thread about Appalachian Power, not their parent company AEP. As of 2016, 70% of AP's energy was coal generated so going to 50% coal is a move towards greener energy generation, good for them. In 2016 they had zero wind (or solar) energy in their portfolio.
https://www.appalachianpower.com/gl...facts/factsheets/APCoOverallFactSheet6-17.pdf

I understand why tthis topic is difficult for you to understand motard. I guess it is hard to completely read and understand a story like that with all that crazy government work on your desk.

 

[dave]

Funny how you can claim this but when someone was in another field for 30 years (education, perhaps) you right wingers have all the answers and those people with the experience don't. Huh.....amazing.....[eyeroll]

If teachers knew how to fix things they wouldnt be teachers.

 

[moe]

I understand why tthis topic is difficult for you to understand motard. I guess it is hard to completely read and understand a story like that with all that crazy government work on your desk.

Relax, your title of board idiot is safe you don't have to keep padding your lead.

 

[dave]

Relax, your title of board idiot is safe you don't have to keep padding your lead.

Moe. It is good to know you are comfortable being the dumbest in every room.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

" The goal of Appalachian Power Company is to rely 50 percent on coal and 50 percent on other kinds of energy by 2031, according to the company’s president."


lol...

fourteen years...

it's a lie...



Appalachian Power’s portfolio is currently 61 percent coal. A company spokesperson said the actual amount of coal-fired generation doesn’t change from 2017 to 2031. It’s just the company plans to introduce more wind and solar, reducing the percentage of coal.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[dave]

" The goal of Appalachian Power Company is to rely 50 percent on coal and 50 percent on other kinds of energy by 2031, according to the company’s president."


lol...

fourteen years...

it's a lie...



Appalachian Power’s portfolio is currently 61 percent coal. A company spokesperson said the actual amount of coal-fired generation doesn’t change from 2017 to 2031. It’s just the company plans to introduce more wind and solar, reducing the percentage of coal.

This is why I figured good ole moe didnt actually read the article. They are not cutting coal usage.

 

[moe]

They are not cutting coal usage.

Who said that they were? I didn't but their prez may have. AP's President states: “The intent is to get coal down to about 50 percent, stay there and then bring the other resources up,” Chris Beam said on last week’s MetroNews “Talkline.” You don't figure well but that's not news.

 

[dave]

Who said that they were? I didn't but their prez may have. AP's President states: “The intent is to get coal down to about 50 percent, stay there and then bring the other resources up,” Chris Beam said on last week’s MetroNews “Talkline.” You don't figure well but that's not news.

I didnt really expect you to understand what he said moe. Its above your pay grade.

 

[moe]

I didnt really expect you to understand what he said moe. Its above your pay grade.

Don't you ever tire of losing or has it just become a way of life for you?

 

[EEResistable]

And how do you define subsidy? Some would define the fact that all of society has to pay for the pollution instead of the energy producer as a subsidy to the producer.

If you can produce something for $20 and not create a mess in the process whereas I can produce it for $18 and create a giant mess in the process that costs everybody else (but not me) money to clean up, why should I be allowed to claim my product is cheaper? The only reason it's cheaper is because I'm shoving the costs of making it onto others.

I define subsidies as the government providing tax dollars to the production company.

 

[wvu2007]

Don't you ever tire of losing or has it just become a way of life for you?

I think that the primaries will be important and it sounds like Trump will start off on a losing note which will hurt him nationally imo. Trump has already alienated the hispanics/latinos and being an equal opportunity offender, he's got plenty of time to piss off some other groups and lose their votes as well. If he's hasn't peaked yet, he will soon and it's all downhill from there.

 

[dave]

Don't you ever tire of losing or has it just become a way of life for you?

What did I lose moe? Please tell me from the security of your taxpayer funded computer.

 

[moe]

What did I lose moe? Please tell me from the security of your taxpayer funded computer.

Yet another unsuccessful gotcha attempt by you, weak.

 

[dave]

Yet another unsuccessful gotcha attempt by you, weak.

I will take that lack of an answer as your answer moe.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Yet another unsuccessful gotcha attempt by you, weak.

Just look at this, Dave has well over 100,000 posts.......and he's accusing you of not having a job? Who has spent more time on here again??? Oh, yeah.......[thumbsup].......I hope he has at least walked out of Mommy's basement and seen sunlight at times........I believe I found a picture of Dave.......

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Don't you ever tire of losing or has it just become a way of life for you?

And he's such an idiot, when he is clearly shown to be wrong, he just keeps digging his hole deeper.