Apparently Bamba isn't even considering Duke according to Scout.
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JMO but if Bolden is an OAD we will be right in the middle of this recruitment and battle it out with KY
I would think an elite PG would jump on board right now. With Allen and Jones gone next year the guards most likely are just Frank and Luke. Big minutes for a Stud PG available.
He's talented but yet again, a guy we can't hinge our title hopes on. He's a piece that will aid our development though.
And I still feel with Bamba we are in a win/win situation. I REALLY like Bamba and what he would bring, but if the alternative is a sophomore Bolden I will gladly take it. The only way we lose here is if Bolden goes pro this year and we don't land Bamba. We are in great shape with the other 2 scenarios.
Duval recently mentioned that once he transferred schools, he texts/talks with Capel all the time. We desperately need a PG next year, Duval is far and away the best one, and our only other option, Matt Coleman, is ranked 32nd in a pretty weak class. Not sure why you think that all adds up to 'some certainty' that Duval isn't an option for us, I'd say just the opposite.
Recruiting Duval is a bit different from recruiting most players. There are some academic issues that need to be cleared by the NCAA Eligibility Center due to Duval attending a school which classes are not all accredited or meeting standards. This is not Duval not passing classes or having poor grades. His best decision academically was going to IMG Academy this year. It's my understanding that his academics will all be cleared by the end of the semester (Dec/Jan).
Of course Duke got in involved with Tre. He's a stud PG that is a OAD player. Is there mutual interest, yes. Is Duke very much in the running for him, yes. It's there ongoing communication, yes. Is there a chance that Duval picks Duke, yes. IMO, he goes to Kentucky or Duke.
Of course Duke got in involved with Tre. He's a stud PG that is a OAD player. Is there mutual interest, yes. Is Duke very much in the running for him, yes. It's there ongoing communication, yes. Is there a chance that Duval picks Duke, yes. IMO, he goes to Kentucky or Duke.
LineSkiCat here. Soooo many dbags at RR. He WANTS us to feel terrible about the loss even though we don't. And he tries to give a little slam to Bolden. Losing him to Duke is still killing those idiots.
"1. Of course you care about going undefeated.
2. You do care about losing that game, and giving Kentucky the #1 ranking for probably three weeks minimum. Stop.
3. Never ever ever whine about calls or fouling out. Kansas had plenty of bad calls go their way. Slapping the ball out T? you see that almost every game.
4. You have a second string that we've been told is still top25 (lol). You still had talented reserves, Jefferson back, typical Duke floppers/doitchbags in Allen and Kennard. While it's huge to be missing Giles, Tatum and Bolden (lmao that he's a "key" freshman, OK, right), they are still freshman. We've seen ours struggle. Tatum and Giles will struggle as well.
5. Frank Jackson playing about as best you could expect in the early going.
5. This loss absolutely matters. This was supposed to be the best team in a decade. If other teams continue to win big, then the battle for Overall #1 seeds gets tight. You need every win.
That said, I would not be one bit surprised to see Duke bumped up HUGE come selection sunday because they have Giles back. You better believe a team maybe worth a #3 seed would be given a #1 just for that. Calling it now."
"1. Of course you care about going undefeated.
2. You do care about losing that game, and giving Kentucky the #1 ranking for probably three weeks minimum. Stop.
3. Never ever ever whine about calls or fouling out. Kansas had plenty of bad calls go their way. Slapping the ball out T? you see that almost every game.
4. You have a second string that we've been told is still top25 (lol). You still had talented reserves, Jefferson back, typical Duke floppers/doitchbags in Allen and Kennard. While it's huge to be missing Giles, Tatum and Bolden (lmao that he's a "key" freshman, OK, right), they are still freshman. We've seen ours struggle. Tatum and Giles will struggle as well.
5. Frank Jackson playing about as best you could expect in the early going.
5. This loss absolutely matters. This was supposed to be the best team in a decade. If other teams continue to win big, then the battle for Overall #1 seeds gets tight. You need every win.
That said, I would not be one bit surprised to see Duke bumped up HUGE come selection sunday because they have Giles back. You better believe a team maybe worth a #3 seed would be given a #1 just for that. Calling it now."
This idiot saying even if Giles returns he will probably be another Skal. Lol.
"Last night was my first watch of Duke this season - a few observations...
1. Credit them for not folding when down double digits toward the end of the game - they can be a clutch team - BUT... they always get so much help shifting the momentum back their way with the whistle - so frustrating!
2. Grayson looked pretty pedestrian last night... I personally think a lot of college basketball has him figured out. He will have a few standout games vs inferior talent, but I can (personal opinion) see him having an average year because coaches have had two years to figure him out.
3. It's Douche University (or the University of Douche if you are Bolden), so you get the expected flopping, overacting head snaps that refs seem to fall for over and over, and bitching and whining at the refs on EVERY call (This is clearly coached/taught behavior - they all do it - oh to see one of them get "T'd" up for it), but the latest junk they do is the leg kick on the 3 point shot. Tyus Jones did it constantly - and Jackson did last night on a bogus "and one" toward the end of the game. So refreshing to see Monk just shoot the ball last night. Hope we never pull this ***** move.
4. To those who have said they are going to have chemistry problems... I say AMEN! First - these guys (Tatum Giles Bolden) are not going to return game ready or in shape - hell Giles hasn't played competitively for going on two years... can you say Skal? But more importantly - imagine playing all these minutes to start the season... being pretty productive in wins... then having your minutes greatly reduced or taken. 24 year old Jefferson want to sit? Jackson or Kennard looking to ride the pine? Jeter (who looked pretty bad) - do you further kill his confidence by sitting him? Sit your elders Allen and Jones to allow the "future" of Douche to play? I just see many potential problems.
5. Like many - with every passing day I more and more doubt Giles ever plays. And if he does how competition ready and healthy he is...
Sorry so long - Cats looked pretty decent last night - love a win - but I am most encouraged that they can improve still in sooo many ways - seem to want to be special - play hard on defense. The guards are so different yet so special together. Stay intense on defense and fine tune the offense. GO CATS!"
64 struggler, Yesterday at 11:31 AM
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"Last night was my first watch of Duke this season - a few observations...
1. Credit them for not folding when down double digits toward the end of the game - they can be a clutch team - BUT... they always get so much help shifting the momentum back their way with the whistle - so frustrating!
2. Grayson looked pretty pedestrian last night... I personally think a lot of college basketball has him figured out. He will have a few standout games vs inferior talent, but I can (personal opinion) see him having an average year because coaches have had two years to figure him out.
3. It's Douche University (or the University of Douche if you are Bolden), so you get the expected flopping, overacting head snaps that refs seem to fall for over and over, and bitching and whining at the refs on EVERY call (This is clearly coached/taught behavior - they all do it - oh to see one of them get "T'd" up for it), but the latest junk they do is the leg kick on the 3 point shot. Tyus Jones did it constantly - and Jackson did last night on a bogus "and one" toward the end of the game. So refreshing to see Monk just shoot the ball last night. Hope we never pull this ***** move.
4. To those who have said they are going to have chemistry problems... I say AMEN! First - these guys (Tatum Giles Bolden) are not going to return game ready or in shape - hell Giles hasn't played competitively for going on two years... can you say Skal? But more importantly - imagine playing all these minutes to start the season... being pretty productive in wins... then having your minutes greatly reduced or taken. 24 year old Jefferson want to sit? Jackson or Kennard looking to ride the pine? Jeter (who looked pretty bad) - do you further kill his confidence by sitting him? Sit your elders Allen and Jones to allow the "future" of Douche to play? I just see many potential problems.
5. Like many - with every passing day I more and more doubt Giles ever plays. And if he does how competition ready and healthy he is...
Sorry so long - Cats looked pretty decent last night - love a win - but I am most encouraged that they can improve still in sooo many ways - seem to want to be special - play hard on defense. The guards are so different yet so special together. Stay intense on defense and fine tune the offense. GO CATS!"
64 struggler, Yesterday at 11:31 AM
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Talking to a coach does not mean anything other than interest on both sides. Which has always been there. Watching what a recruit does is far more important in deciphering the level of interest. Right now Duval is a long shot. Coleman is not.
This is not just about what happens and is needed on the court. There are specifics here that I won't go into. IMO, John Wall was closer to coming to Duke than Duval, and these are actually two very similar situations. I don't see Duval and Duke happening. I just don't.
I don't know if lean is the right term. I think he has a great relationship with Shaka. That is of course a factor. He really likes Duke.
And THR logic would say that since we will have a bunch of playing time at PG next year that there are zero reasons that make sense for Coleman to choose anywhere but Duke. If he goes to Texas, then there's proof Shaka is dirty.
No, no you would not move up 2 seed lines because 1 player returns. Stop being ridiculous.
I don't think coleman is good enough where you don't recruit duval of there is a chance of him coming here. Plus with the guys we are going to lose playing time will be available next year
He has us in the top 5. I'm not saying we will get him but we have a shot
I'm also not saying anything about Duval's talent. Read my post above. There are dogs in this hunt than team needs.
I'd love to be wrong though.
My impression was that your original post about 'some certainty' implied you had some insider knowledge. Since none of us do, it's a bit of a pet peeve when posters imply that they do. If what you're saying is that some of the potential baggage associated with Duval makes it unlikely that he'll pick Duke (or vice versa), that's a fair opinion. I just happen to think Duke will do whatever it can to make it work.
Interest levels are not always completely up to date. How much interest did it say Lonnie Walker had in Miami? I do not know, not a rhetorical question. The thing about DuVal is that Coach Capel is in touch, and appears to be in touch pretty frequently. But no sites are reporting that Coach K is really putting in any work there. He is personally talking to and recruiting Coleman, but Shaka coached him on Team USA and has been on him much longer than Duke. Shaka is no slacker in coaching or recruiting. There is a reason, I think but do not know any insider information, to fear that Texas gets him. Duke has offered both Jones and Garland in the next class, Coleman may not fear Jones who did not play exceptionally well this summer, but Garland is a Top Ten kid, and will Duke also consider Immanuel Quickly or have they backed off. I do not know where that stands, he did not visit for the exhibition games.
No need to be peeved bud. I'm letting you know based on things I have actually had a chance to discuss with people. And from those discussions it seems like this union is unlikely. Recruiting is fluid and can change, but I just don't see it happening.
I'll stand by that and if I turn out to be wrong then great for Duke. I wouldn't mind being wrong here because it means Duke gets a stud. But I won't hold my breath.
Also there are specifics and speculation that I won't share on a free board because it's open market. Anyone can google search and see these posts, and believe it or not, players, coaches and staffers look at these boards. Chris Collins actually used to check fairly regularly and it has been known that some recruits have looked at this board to see what type of fans they're dealing with. That is an out and out fact. Keeping that in mind, I don't and won't go into specifics.
With that said, I hope Tre ends up picking Duke and everything works out.
The Tre I was referring to was Trevon Duval.
Tre Jones is 2018 and unaffected by any point guard decisions in '17. I'd be very shocked if he didn't come to Duke.