APR penalties: Nutt almost responsible for Arky at 927

[pebblesForstate]

I realize the 913 score ole miss got is really due to special Ed's genious or due to their 3 dubmasses' academic uneligibility, but its funny how ole miss adm is painting Nutt out to be an Oxford alum (the real one overseas) who will resurrect football academics.

Since all of the schools need a min of 925 over a 4 yr period (2004-2008), its interesting the damage control (sweepage under the rug) quotes from Nutt, Boone and Khayat on how ole miss will soon get back to their fine upstanding tradition of academics

I noticed Arkansas was at 927 (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=49714) for the last 4 years under Nutt's watch. So I guess since Nutt resurrected Arky's academic excellence to just 2 points above deafcon 5, then he will just barely scrape *** over bare min at ole miss too, yet be hailed as their Bear Bryant.

Now I see why Reese Davis calls him "The right honorable Reverend"

 

[pebblesForstate]

I realize the 913 score ole miss got is really due to special Ed's genious or due to their 3 dubmasses' academic uneligibility, but its funny how ole miss adm is painting Nutt out to be an Oxford alum (the real one overseas) who will resurrect football academics.

Since all of the schools need a min of 925 over a 4 yr period (2004-2008), its interesting the damage control (sweepage under the rug) quotes from Nutt, Boone and Khayat on how ole miss will soon get back to their fine upstanding tradition of academics

I noticed Arkansas was at 927 (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=49714) for the last 4 years under Nutt's watch. So I guess since Nutt resurrected Arky's academic excellence to just 2 points above deafcon 5, then he will just barely scrape *** over bare min at ole miss too, yet be hailed as their Bear Bryant.

Now I see why Reese Davis calls him "The right honorable Reverend"

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

and he may not be a saint, but he's already improved our academics tremendously compared to the O.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Exactly. As was mentioned last year, had we been in a bowl game, we'd have had about 20 players ineligible due to not having grades in order after the fall semester. This year, every single player was eligible for the Cotton Bowl. That's a dramatic turnaround. Plus, our overall attrition rate hasn't been nearly as high. We haven't had nearly the number of players kicked off, quit, or transfer.

 

[Emanonion]

was people like McFadden leaving early for the NFL. A good problem to have, but it hurts the apr for sure.

 

[dawgoneyall]

the validity of the academics as long as Poe remains eligible. That is just the way it is.

I am not going to get into a long argument over this.

 

[RebelBruiser]

the validity of the academics as long as Poe remains eligible. That is just the way it is.

I am not going to get into a long argument over this.

No argument. All it proves is that if you're an SEC athlete and you flunk out, you're just not trying, or you're just being lazy. With the easy teachers, the athlete friendly majors, and the number of tudors, it's pretty hard to flunk out if you truly try.

That's why I had always said Powe would be fine if they'd give him a chance, because you knew he wasn't going to be lazy about the school part. As long as you aren't lazy, you'll pass, and that goes for every BCS program, except for maybe a few of the academic schools, and even at those they have a much easier time than the average student.

The idea of the student athlete is a joke and has been for a long time. Some people like to pretend like this is something new, when it's not.

ETA: Chris Strong is a good example of not putting forth an effort. He didn't have a great academic history, but it doesn't take a great academic history to pass athlete friendly classes. It just takes effort.

 

[dawgoneyall]

you are saying Powe is capable of doing the work and not getting it given to him.

 

[RebelBruiser]

you are saying Powe is capable of doing the work and not getting it given to him.

The work required to pass athlete friendly courses? Yes, definitely. You seem to think that Powe is somehow on a different level than a lot of college athletes. I think you'd be surprised to find out how normal he is in comparison to a good majority of the football and basketball players across the country. Do you honestly think the Irons brothers at Auburn were/are more intelligent than Powe? At worst they were on the same level, and they were able to maintain eligibility.

It doesn't take a whole lot to maintain eligibility if you are an athlete. All it really takes is effort.

If we are/were giving him grades, then why in the world wouldn't we afford the same advantages to fellow blue chip DT, Chris Strong? Powe's not being given grades. If we were giving grades, Strong wouldn't have flunked out. I'm sure Powe's getting all the same advantages other football players are getting, which is a lot, but he still has to show up to class and make some effort. As I said, all it really takes is effort to pass classes if you're an athlete. You can be very much below average and still pass classes if you just give an effort. Chris Strong just didn't try. Powe is trying. That's why he's in school and Strong isn't.

 

[GloryDawg]

is a dumb ***! Plain and simple. I will bet anyone that he hurts Ole Miss one of three ways. One grades, two leaving early for NFL or combination of the two.</p>

 

[MadRebel10]

And Dontae Walker was a Rhodes scholar......every football team has retards.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

I would hate that

 

[Rebels7]

Do you know Jerrell Powe? Or are you just making an opinion based on half of the **** you've read on the internet?

 

[MrHooch]

you are saying Powe is capable of doing the work and not getting it given to him.

The work required to pass athlete friendly courses? Yes, definitely. You seem to think that Powe is somehow on a different level than a lot of college athletes. I think you'd be surprised to find out how normal he is in comparison to a good majority of the football and basketball players across the country. Do you honestly think the Irons brothers at Auburn were/are more intelligent than Powe? At worst they were on the same level, and they were able to maintain eligibility.

It doesn't take a whole lot to maintain eligibility if you are an athlete. All it really takes is effort.

If we are/were giving him grades, then why in the world wouldn't we afford the same advantages to fellow blue chip DT, Chris Strong? Powe's not being given grades. If we were giving grades, Strong wouldn't have flunked out. I'm sure Powe's getting all the same advantages other football players are getting, which is a lot, but he still has to show up to class and make some effort. As I said, all it really takes is effort to pass classes if you're an athlete. You can be very much below average and still pass classes if you just give an effort. Chris Strong just didn't try. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Powe is trying</span>. That's why he's in school and Strong isn't.

I have a fundamental problem believing that Powe is really trying, and it stems from the noise complaint incident a few weeks ago. I cannot bring myself to believe that if he was seriously trying to make the grads, get an education, etc. he would claim he couldn't read when the officer handed him the citation for the noise complaint. That is not something that a 'normal' young man would claim, especially in light of all the issues he's had making grades in the past.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Exactly my point. I think it makes a lot of people feel better to point out one person and say, look at him, he's the exception to the rule. He doesn't belong in college. Reality is, a whole lot of these guys don't belong in college. They're there for our entertainment. They take joke classes with joke professors, and they get tutors to help them, who often have exact, filled out copies of the tests for them to study. The ONLY way you don't pass is if you don't try.

Powe is not the exception. He's the rule for a good number of college football and basketball players. The sooner you accept that, the easier it'll be for you the next time you find out one of your own players doesn't know the difference between a verb and a noun.

 

[Aelyn]

927 sounds pretty good to me.

 

[RebelBruiser]

you are saying Powe is capable of doing the work and not getting it given to him.

The work required to pass athlete friendly courses? Yes, definitely. You seem to think that Powe is somehow on a different level than a lot of college
athletes. I think you'd be surprised to find out how normal he is in comparison to a good majority of the football and basketball players across the
country. Do you honestly think the Irons brothers at Auburn were/are more intelligent than Powe? At worst they were on the same level, and they were able to
maintain eligibility.

It doesn't take a whole lot to maintain eligibility if you are an athlete. All it really takes is effort.

If we are/were giving him grades, then why in the world wouldn't we afford the same advantages to fellow blue chip DT, Chris Strong? Powe's not being
given grades. If we were giving grades, Strong wouldn't have flunked out. I'm sure Powe's getting all the same advantages other football players
are getting, which is a lot, but he still has to show up to class and make some effort. As I said, all it really takes is effort to pass classes if you're
an athlete. You can be very much below average and still pass classes if you just give an effort. Chris Strong just didn't try. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Powe is trying</span>. That's
why he's in school and Strong isn't.

I have a fundamental problem believing that Powe is really trying, and it stems from the noise complaint incident a few weeks ago. I cannot bring myself to believe that if he was seriously trying to make the grads, get an education, etc. he would claim he couldn't read when the officer handed him the citation for the noise complaint. That is not something that a 'normal' young man would claim, especially in light of all the issues he's had making grades in the past.

I don't see how that comment or incident has anything to do with whether or not he's working at passing his classes.

Again, I point to Chris Strong. He came into school at the exact same time as Powe. Strong was gone after one semester. Powe has managed to pass enough through 3, going on 4 semesters for him to be eligible. Explain to me how that happens if he's not giving at least some effort.

 

[GloryDawg]

Do you know Jerrell Powe? Or are you just making an opinion based on half of the **** you've read on the internet?

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"> I am basing it on the fact it took his dumb *** what 3 or 4 years to get into school. Hell he was even too stupid for Community College. However I feel that he is a great athlete and if he had been eligible to play out of high school he would be in the NFL now but he would not have been at Ole Miss first. <br style="mso-special-character: line-break"> <br style="mso-special-character: line-break"></span>

 

[Rebels7]

And I can't speak for the Wayne County public school system, but is it not possible that there are several entities responsible for his lack of academic success growing up?

 

[MrHooch]

you are saying Powe is capable of doing the work and not getting it given to him.

The work required to pass athlete friendly courses? Yes, definitely. You seem to think that Powe is somehow on a different level than a lot of college
athletes. I think you'd be surprised to find out how normal he is in comparison to a good majority of the football and basketball players across the
country. Do you honestly think the Irons brothers at Auburn were/are more intelligent than Powe? At worst they were on the same level, and they were able to
maintain eligibility.

It doesn't take a whole lot to maintain eligibility if you are an athlete. All it really takes is effort.

If we are/were giving him grades, then why in the world wouldn't we afford the same advantages to fellow blue chip DT, Chris Strong? Powe's not being
given grades. If we were giving grades, Strong wouldn't have flunked out. I'm sure Powe's getting all the same advantages other football players
are getting, which is a lot, but he still has to show up to class and make some effort. As I said, all it really takes is effort to pass classes if you're
an athlete. You can be very much below average and still pass classes if you just give an effort. Chris Strong just didn't try. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Powe is trying</span>. That's
why he's in school and Strong isn't.

I have a fundamental problem believing that Powe is really trying, and it stems from the noise complaint incident a few weeks ago. I cannot bring myself to believe that if he was seriously trying to make the grads, get an education, etc. he would claim he couldn't read when the officer handed him the citation for the noise complaint. That is not something that a 'normal' young man would claim, especially in light of all the issues he's had making grades in the past.

I don't see how that comment or incident has anything to do with whether or not he's working at passing his classes.

Again, I point to Chris Strong. He came into school at the exact same time as Powe. Strong was gone after one semester. Powe has managed to pass enough through 3, going on 4 semesters for him to be eligible. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Explain to me how that happens if he's not giving at least some effort.</span>

coasting. trying to skate...doing just enough to get by...

 

[rebville]

ljsvhflqighfv

 

[RebelBruiser]

coasting. trying to skate...doing just enough to get by...

So you're saying you think Powe is slacking but still passing classes with a GPA higher than the all-university average?

You give him a lot more credit than me. I honestly think he's having to give a pretty good effort to maintain that GPA. As I said again, coasting is why Chris Strong is no longer in school. If Powe were just coasting, I think he'd most likely be helping build caskets with Chris right now.

 

[MrHooch]

is that there are different levels of effort. What I'm saying is that anyone who is really giving their best effort, or close to it, to get a higher education would not openly claim to be illiterate. In my mind that goes against the mindset of the type of person that is putting REAL effort into their education.

 

[RebelBruiser]

is that there are different levels of effort. What I'm saying is that anyone who is really giving their best effort, or close to it, to get a higher education would not openly claim to be illiterate. In my mind that goes against the mindset of the type of person that is putting REAL effort into their education.

Smart comment to cop = lazy student. I'm just not seeing the connection.