Are there any Jevan Snead apologists still out there?

[Seinfeld]

Midway through the season, to say that he's been mediocre would be kind. A 47% completion rating, 9 TDs, and 9 INTs doesn't even put him in the Top 10 in passing efficiency in the SEC. A few names ahaed of him... Jonathan Crompton, Mike Hartline, and Chris Relf.

About two months ago I was told that I was grossly overreacting when I stated that Jevan Snead wasn't in the same league as Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow, or Sam Bradford. While the season hasn't gone exactly as planned for any of those guys, I think it's safe to say that Snead should still not be mentioned in the same sentence with them.

Nonentheless, I'll admit that I didn't ever expect things to go this badly for Jevan in 2009. Is it the line? The lack of playmaker receivers? In all seriousness, what is wrong with the kid?</p>

 

[Indndawg]

but the forum mods always intercept their messages

 

[Seinfeld]

Midway through the season, to say that he's been mediocre would be kind. A 47% completion rating, 9 TDs, and 9 INTs doesn't even put him in the Top 10 in passing efficiency in the SEC. A few names ahaed of him... Jonathan Crompton, Mike Hartline, and Chris Relf.

About two months ago I was told that I was grossly overreacting when I stated that Jevan Snead wasn't in the same league as Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow, or Sam Bradford. While the season hasn't gone exactly as planned for any of those guys, I think it's safe to say that Snead should still not be mentioned in the same sentence with them.

Nonentheless, I'll admit that I didn't ever expect things to go this badly for Jevan in 2009. Is it the line? The lack of playmaker receivers? In all seriousness, what is wrong with the kid?</p>

 

[jackstefano]

He came very close to completing almost half of his passes yesterday.

Candidly, he's always been a headcase with a tendency to freak out early in games, but last year he was able to get in a rhythm most of the time because the line was pretty good. This year, not so much.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I`ve always been a Houston Nutt fan(well until he came to Ole Miss) but I`m not sure being around him every day wouldn`t make me a little nervous/crazy. Could he be over-coaching Snead ?

 

[saddawg]

I was told by many a Reb...... "Oher won't be that big a loss." These are the same that told me Spurlock would take up Eli's slack, but be more mobile.

State and Ole Miss don't replace 1st rounders. Please write that down.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

we must travel in sort of similar circles.

 

[saddawg]

we must travel in sort of similar circles.

waterfront dives, ***** houses and Sunday School picnics for you too?

 

[jackstefano]

when there's any pressure, or even perceived pressure. The balls aren't even close.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

but close enough.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Yalls coaching staff has a much better chance of developing a QB than any staff we`ve had up til now but I`ve seen some of our previous staffs absolutely coach kids down instead of up. **** who knows.</p>

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

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[GBryne4Heisman]

1) mechanics break down under pressure
2) protection (see 1)
3) struggles in the running game
4) wrs aren't as good

That adresses pretty much every aspect of qb play, but I don't think there is one quick answer. Having said that I still think Snead will have 22-25 td passes, and "lead" UM to a peachbowl birth.

 

[slickdawg]

The SI kiss of death

 

[Oxford Godfrey]

I didn't know Sowell from Adam this time last year...

 

[patdog]

Sowell is apparently better than Massie.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

Least that's what I'm hoping. Oher couldn't start as a freshman either. He played on the right side I believe. I think he'll start getting more PT soon though. But Sowell is the root cause of almost all the problems. We can't send enough receivers out, and we can't block long enough.

 

[patdog]

Unrealistic expectations among UM fans for Massie are probably only surpassed by unrealistic expectation among MSU fans for Tyler Russell.

On an entirely different note (and this is a serious question, I'm not trying to be a jackass), do you still think Alabama is just lucky, or do you agree with me that they're a damn good football team? I'm still not convinced that Florida is the best team in the SEC. </p>

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

offense. So either our defense is great, or their offense is challenged. Though they did also have two more turnovers simply handed to them by receivers. It's uncanny how many times that has happened. Not saying they got lucky against us though, our offense was simply dominated. I don't think their offensive line can handle Florida though. That would be my main concern if I were a Bama fan.

And I wasn't counting on Massie at all. I was thinking that Sowell would at least be a mediocre player. Average would be fine. I didn't know he would be god awful.

 

[RebelBruiser]

And I wasn't counting on Massie at all. I was thinking that Sowell would at least be a mediocre player. Average would be fine. I didn't know he would be god awful.

That's exactly where I was. Of course we had ignorant fans that thought Massie would come in and start at LT as a true freshman. I don't care how good you are, if you are a true freshman starting at LT, you're going to struggle a good bit.

I too was thinking Sowell could do better than he has. Also, I feel like the rest of our OL has taken a step back. Geralds got dominated Saturday, and he was great last year. Jerry has looked average quite a bit this year. It's not just Sowell. Guys we expected to be consistent on the OL this year have been shaky.

Right now, that's the root of Jevan's problems as well, his lack of confidence in his OL. Still though, he has to be better. He's reacting to pressure that isn't there, and he's rushing his throws even when he doesn't have to rush them. He's playing scared, which ultimately falls on him, but the root of that fear is in the OL play.

 

[coach66]

bama victory. After watching the game I am more impressed with the OM defense than I was but still not sold that it is great, no doubt they are good and they may end up being great but I thought Bama did what they had to do to win and that was about it. I know it sounds like sour grapes but that is what I saw. OM still wins 8 games but they are going to get caught in some situations where they can't score enough to win in games like Auburn, Arkansas, and Tennesse possibly. If MSU doesn't fumble it away the Egg bowl will be close but I do believe OM has the better team.

These turnovers are killing me.

 

[RebelBruiser]

bama victory. After watching the game I am more impressed with the OM defense than I was but still not sold that it is great, no doubt they are good and they may end up being great but I thought Bama did what they had to do to win and that was about it. I know it sounds like sour grapes but that is what I saw. OM still wins 8 games but they are going to get caught in some situations where they can't score enough to win in games like Auburn, Arkansas, and Tennesse possibly. If MSU doesn't fumble it away the Egg bowl will be close but I do believe OM has the better team.

These turnovers are killing me.

Alabama started 4 drives inside our 30 yard line. Alabama came away with only 9 points from those 4 drives. Our offense turned the ball over 5 times, and we had a punt blocked. The only TD our defense allowed all game was when Alabama hit a seam on a 4th and 2 against a goal line front.

At the end of the day, Bama had 22 points on the board. There aren't many defense in the country that could hold a team to 22 points given the starting field position they faced all game and the fact that they were on the field for 2/3 of the game due to our offense's inability to put together a drive.

I had similar questions about our defense coming into the game. However, all my questions were answered. The only thing that's going to keep our defense from holding teams down this year is our offense. Unfortunately, our offensive issues may be too much for them to overcome.

On another note, Greg McElroy came into the game this weekend completing 78 of 119 passes (65.5%) for 217 yards per game with 18 TDs and only 2 INTs.

In our game he was 15-34 (44.1%) for only 147 yards with 0 TDs and 0 INTs and a QB rating of 80.4. His lowest QB rating in any game before ours was 118.7. Our defense did a very good job with Alabama's passing game, and we held Alabama below its average per game rushing total. Our defense did a very good job this past weekend considering the way the offense played.

 

[coach66]

weaken and break and that is when the real problems will begin. We have seen it at MSU many times when we relied to heavily on our defense and they eventually wear out. OM offense has multiple issues, Snead(confidence), O-line, playmakers(1 McCluster but he is being watched), and scheme, what they are trying to do isn't working and they don't seem to have any alternatives; against average to good defenses they will struggle.

 

[coach66]

commentators but bama qb tried to throw it to Julio the entire game, sometimes into triple coverage. I think if he throws to the open guys bama scores 35 and to be fair Ole Miss could have scored 14 without all the turnovers. It probably should have been 35-14.

 

[RebelBruiser]

If the offense doesn't do a better job in future games, the defense will eventually crack. Fortunately we get to face some weaker defenses down the stretch. The only really strong D we have left on the schedule is UT.

I said on Nafoom that if we score 24 points in every game the rest of the way, I think we win out. Problem is, I don't have faith in our offense right now to do that. If we could do that, I don't think there is a team on our schedule that would top the 24 mark against our defense. If the offense continues to struggle and turn it over, the defense will eventually cave.

 

[OMlawdog]

Is that his protection on Saturday wasn't terrible. He had time. Only problem is that he used that time to throw every pass either high or to a Bama player.

Now the South Carolina game was all about protection, but he was terrible in the Memphis, SE LA and second half of Vandy. He has had one good half, against vandy. Thats it.

The bama game was about one square foot of real estate which Jevan has completely lost.

I said this during the game, he looks like Rick Ankiel trying to pitch. He is simply in his head, and that scares me more than protection issues, because you can help protection, you can't help a QB that doesn't think he can complete a pass.
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[RebelBruiser]

Our defense has given up 5 TDs on the year total in 5 games.

Florida is the only team in the SEC to have given up fewer, only giving up 2 TDs. Everyone else in the SEC has given up 9 or more TDs to this point in the season.

USC, Nebraska, and Penn State are the only other teams in the country that are on a pace of 1 TD or fewer allowed per game. Given that our offense is 2nd in the SEC in turnovers per game, that's an even more impressive stat for our defense.

 

[GBryne4Heisman]

Is that his protection on Saturday wasn't terrible. He had time. Only problem is that he used that time to throw every pass either high or to a Bama player.

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Yeah I agree. Even when Snead has had time he's been either late throwing the ball or the ball has sailed on him. I saw the OC jump in his face after a high throw in the SC game. Austin meet him with "What the <17> was that!?!?!"

Thats why I said it's his mechanics more so than the pressure or his WRs. I think his lack of protection hurts his mechanics, but it might be more mental than physical.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Is that his protection on Saturday wasn't terrible. He had time. Only problem is that he used that time to throw every pass either high or to a Bama
player.

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Yeah I agree. Even when Snead has had time he's been either late throwing the ball or the ball has sailed on him. I saw the OC jump in his face after a high throw in the SC game. Austin meet him with "What the <17> was that!?!?!"

Thats why I said it's his mechanics more so than the pressure or his WRs. I think his lack of protection hurts his mechanics, but it might be more mental than physical.

Bingo. The pressure is the root of the problem, but right now it's in Snead's head more than anything. When your throws are affected by the pressure even when you aren't getting a pass rush, it's mental.