Ark vs Va
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Amazing how good the offence is when everyone is moving and cutting and no one is standing around beating the cover off the ball.
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They should stop hyping his teams up in the preseason, then. I mean, this happens every year. And people fall for it, every year.
You meant literally. I took this to mean Virginia had its second string on the floor
I agree that they will be hard to beat at ttheir place but they will be a handful at any place. Their defense is elite. Duke might get them in Durham but doubtful in Charlottesville.
We did too.
Our starting and ending rank under Cal:
2024: 16/20
2023: 4/NA
2022: 10/7
2021: 10/NA
2020: 2/8
2019: 2/7
2018: 5/18
2017: 2/5
2016: 2/10
2015: 1/1
2014: 1/NA
2013: 3/NA
2012: 2/1
2011: 11:11
2010: 4/2
from top 5 preseason to unranked 3 times. top 10 to unranked 1 more time.
We learned to live for the off season under Cal.
Lived for the offseason with Cal vs just disappointed all the time under Pope. What a fun time for UK fans.
Not a "Popie" as you call it, I was posting on a thread about Arkansas -vs- Virginia, seems like you were the 1st one to bring up Pope's name. Pope's name belongs nowhere on this thread, a thread about Pope & Kentucky of course, this isn't that thread.
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Hitting 15 3’s will most certainly keep most any team within reach. I would call the Manhattan game a struggle.
Id pick a different team to pull for if i were you. You're not alone...I wish several posters on here would go root for somebody else. The negativity is just old and tiring, without any benefit at all...unless it just makes snowflakes feel better to *****.
Calipari sucks too
whats more tiring to you....
(1) uk basketball losing
or
(2) the negativity on this board directly related to the uk basketball losing
1 of these actually matters, the other is what you seem to care more about
All of us have seen this before. When Cal has a freshman laden team, they lose early and sometimes, very ugly. Today was that. I believe they will improve tremendously and be a fairly high ranked team in March. I am too concerned about our own team to really vent on Cal.
Seen that team before. I wish we were better so it would feel good.Ark can't rebound can't shoot can't guard can't make free throws but man they are athletic
They were awful and lost when Bennett retired just like two years ago. Odom may be an up and comer. Keep him on the future watch list.
If Cal’s young teams can’t get out and run they have zero chance getting out of a hole like that.
Surprised UNC didn’t go after him. He’s from North Carolina. Might be someone to look at along with Shertz if Oats says no.
No Joke. It's like the triangle of UL-UK and ARKY can't dog on each other because none of our coaches are turning out liked we hoped.
I dunno man. Oats is looking less shiny these days. Still solid but I think some of the cool factor has worn down a smidge. Will be interesting to see how he does this year. Big years for a lot of coaches- ours included.
Oats is like every coach out there, when he’s in the final four then he‘s the greatest thing since sliced bread. not in the final four, he’s just another coach.
I think some of that is gonna die too. We had these LEGENDS of coacing, Pitino, K, Cal, Self, Ol Daggum with his co-colers, Tubby, Izzo, etc. Guys that had been in the game for Decades, won titles, made deep runs or always made the tourney, were always there, BIG house hold names even people outside of the sport had at least heard of. And now, not so much. Sure you've got Hurley, Schyer, Few, Cronin, etc. but they don't have the same aura about them (or in Hurley's case are so much of a prick you can't stand to be near them for more than 10 minutes). I dunno man, sport has lost a lot of its charm and magic.
FYI, when Coach Odom was in his younger, formative years, his father, Dave Odom, was an assistant on Terry Holland's Virginia teams. He came of age in Charlottesville and was a ball boy for the Ralph Sampson and Rick Carlisle teams. He has stated that the Virginia position was always his "dream job".
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I’m guessing he’ll be the first choice because of Batt’s relationship with Oats more than anything.
How many coaches are getting there every year other than Hurley?
Oats is getting to Elite 8's and S16's annually, as his floor.
Eh, back then you could be a classy old jacketed coach. These days, the game is so much more complicated, you have to have edge and be on top of 100 things. There's no more getting the kids you want as high schoolers and growing them up. Now you have to manage NIL, transfers, retain, yada, along with all the other stuff. Today's coach is much sharper.
I mean, Roy, Elmer Fudd, Williams was winning titles at UNC. You think that guy would survive today? You have to be sharp.
Cal admitted years ago at UK that he doesn't work on FT's in practice, not sure what he actually does in practice, especially since he dumped Robic you can really tell a difference.Another staple of a Calipari coached team, they suck at the FT line, 50% at the moment, Jordan Smith Jr their star, barely drew iron on his FT lol.
Down by 19 at the half
I tend to agree with this as well but it is going to be a lot harder to do without a guy like Acuff at the 1 and his team has nobody like that. Cal teams require a lead guard that can actually run the floor and make things happen. While the Jordan Smith kid is really talented he isnt near as a complete player as Acuff was. The will struggle to hit 3s and have someone take good care of the ball while running offense.
Since 2015 Cal has had 8 teams ranked in the top ten preseason polls.
In that time he has had TWO of those teams make it to the elite 8.
He has had the same amount miss the tournament entirely.
Since the 2015 season, with top 1-2 ranked classes every season, Cal versus top 25 ranked teams is 44-52 for 45.8%
Even worse, since the 2020 season (6 years) versus the AP Top 25 teams, Calipari is 21-34 for 38.1%.
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Which was puzzling when he said this considering he also said he wants 50 layups per game. Shows you just how dumb that strategy is, you want 50 layups but you don't work on free throws, knowing you're team will get fouled on layups/drives to the basket.
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