Arkansas

hogfan14

Freshman
Mar 28, 2013
376
87
16
The early signing period has been around for what, 3 years now? And Arkansas has had a new coach for two of them. Just pretty awful luck. Even Bielema's first class he was able to salvage and get up to #23 because he had more time.


Morris had us up to #23 as well before he started getting blown out as the season went on and it fell to #50, then after he was fired a lot of Texas recruits decommitted and we fell to #118 with only 6 commits. It's not really Pittman's fault that he can't sign a lot of guys in only 10 days on the job. Morris just left us in an awful situation. Not a whole lot you can do about it except try to convince some guys to wait until February to sign and hope to keep building relationships with them.


If he can even get it to #50 that would be a success IMO. Going to have to hit the transfer and JUCO market hard.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,607
22,502
113
What's the fans thoughts on YESSIR? I haven't read much of anything about the fan's reactions.
 

Msubulldogfan1

Freshman
Sep 12, 2013
8,835
80
48
The early signing period has been around for what, 3 years now? And Arkansas has had a new coach for two of them. Just pretty awful luck. Even Bielema's first class he was able to salvage and get up to #23 because he had more time.


Morris had us up to #23 as well before he started getting blown out as the season went on and it fell to #50, then after he was fired a lot of Texas recruits decommitted and we fell to #118 with only 6 commits. It's not really Pittman's fault that he can't sign a lot of guys in only 10 days on the job. Morris just left us in an awful situation. Not a whole lot you can do about it except try to convince some guys to wait until February to sign and hope to keep building relationships with them.


If he can even get it to #50 that would be a success IMO. Going to have to hit the transfer and JUCO market hard.
I feel for ya brother. At the same time, we need y’all in the cellar. If you wanna switch places with OM, that’d be ok.
 

The Situation

Redshirt
Oct 6, 2019
1,098
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I feel for ya brother. At the same time, we need y’all in the cellar. If you wanna switch places with OM, that’d be ok.
I don't. I think it's funny as hell. Even funnier is watching them hold onto their superiority that has long since left on a motorcycle ride nearly a decade ago.
 

Xenomorph

Heisman
Feb 15, 2007
16,181
10,798
113
Ehhhh...

 

hogfan14

Freshman
Mar 28, 2013
376
87
16
Just flipped a 4* DB from Oregon. Average player rating per 247 is at .8649 or about 33rd in the nation. So while Arkansas isn't adding numbers yet in this class, quality is better than vandy and Mizzou and roughly in line with Ole Miss.
 
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Just flipped a 4* DB from Oregon. Average player rating per 247 is at .8649 or about 33rd in the nation. So while Arkansas isn't adding numbers yet in this class, quality is better than vandy and Mizzou and roughly in line with Ole Miss.

The problem is that about 80 % of the best players signed in the early signing period.
 

The Situation

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Oct 6, 2019
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Just flipped a 4* DB from Oregon. Average player rating per 247 is at .8649 or about 33rd in the nation. So while Arkansas isn't adding numbers yet in this class, quality is better than vandy and Mizzou and roughly in line with Ole Miss.
Nobody really expects you to finish 119. I imagine it will get up above 50. And if YESSIR is a good coach, none of it will matter.

That's a stretch though.
 

Trojanbulldog19

All-American
Aug 25, 2014
10,143
5,926
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yeah the early signing bonus hurts new coaches. i'm surprised they haven't made tweaks to the signing day. works great for coaches who didn't get fired. that should never be a reason to keep a terrible coach though.
 

The Situation

Redshirt
Oct 6, 2019
1,098
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yeah the early signing bonus hurts new coaches. i'm surprised they haven't made tweaks to the signing day. works great for coaches who didn't get fired. that should never be a reason to keep a terrible coach though.
I say screw the coaches. They get paid millions, move around all the time, and the players don't get to do that. So eff em, I say there SHOULD be a penalty for firing your coach, and for a new coach to get a new job. And there should be a reward for continuity.
 

VegasDawg13

Freshman
Jun 11, 2007
2,191
80
48
The early signing period has been around for what, 3 years now? And Arkansas has had a new coach for two of them. Just pretty awful luck. Even Bielema's first class he was able to salvage and get up to #23 because he had more time.
I object to your use of the word "luck" in this instance.
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,455
2,469
113
Take one for the team, man. He's right. We need ya in the cellar but being in 6th is fine with us.
 

hogfan14

Freshman
Mar 28, 2013
376
87
16
I object to your use of the word "luck" in this instance.

Lol I mean the ESD didn't exist when we had Nutt for 10 years, or even Bielema for 5, it started when we had the worst coach in our history take us to the two worst records in our history, and just compounds it. It's bad luck for new coaches because it puts them behind the 8-ball with a below average class right out of the gate and none of it is their fault.
 

The Situation

Redshirt
Oct 6, 2019
1,098
0
0
Lol I mean the ESD didn't exist when we had Nutt for 10 years, or even Bielema for 5, it started when we had the worst coach in our history take us to the two worst records in our history, and just compounds it. It's bad luck for new coaches because it puts them behind the 8-ball with a below average class right out of the gate and none of it is their fault.
He’s right. It’s still ‘Arkansas’ fault, even if it’s not the coaches fault. I don’t care why you suck, it’s ‘that’ you suck.

When you fire two coaches inside of two years, what you see is what you get. You absolutely should pay a price for that. Yeah, it’s your ADs fault or whatever, but at the end of the day, Arkansas football is a joke.
 

Rupert Jenkins

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2017
4,420
3,679
113
Harsh dude...lol. Absolute fact tho. And its gonna take a few classes to get right. You can't win in the SEC with that kind of recruiting regardless of who your coach is. No amount of coaching them up will fix it.
 
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