Art Briles cleared of wrongdoing. Time to go after him at end of the year.
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that's funny stuff.You have got to be joking, drunk, or stupid. lWhich one (or combination) is it??
The NCAA does not have rules dealing with harboring violent criminals and covering up for them.
Try to sell a text book or direct players to sign up for automatic B / never need to attend classes and come down hard taking away scholarships, post season bans and restrictions on recruiting for several years.
Art Briles in a coma is a better HC than Neal Brown. Everyone is just used to accepting mediocrity ever since Goat Rod left.
Doesn't matter what you think. Neal Brown is hear for 3 more more years counting the upcoming season.
Even Canadian Football league didn't want Briles.
Found on Hamilton web pages...
On August 28, 2017, Briles was hired by the Canadian Football League's Hamilton Tiger Cats as assistant head coach for offense. Briles used a letter from the Baylor legal department in his efforts to secure a job with the Tiger-Cats. However, in the face of a firestorm of criticism and pressure from league officials, Hamilton reversed course hours later and announced Briles would not join the team.
Hamilton owner Bob Young conceded that night that hiring Briles had been "a major blunder," and credited CFL Commissioner Randy Ambrosie with persuading the team to rescind the hire. The following day, Young issued a statement apologizing for "a large and serious mistake." CEO and general manager Scott Mitchell said that team officials got so focused on "the inner sanctum of football discussions" that they forgot about the larger questions of "our standing in the community."
Briles was finally hired as the head coach for Mount Vernon High School in Texas in May 2019 on a two-year deal.
A month into his first season, Briles and Mount Vernon were publicly reprimanded by a state oversight committee for using ineligible players and for using an assistant coach who wasn't a full-time employee of the district. However, Mount Vernon was not forced to forfeit any games.
On November 16, 2019, the Mount Vernon Tigers, coached by Briles, lost to the Sabine Cardinals in the first round of the Texas high school playoffs, 20–14.
On December 14, 2020, Briles resigned as head coach after posting a 20–6 record in 2 seasons, after losing to the Jim Ned Indians in the state semi-finals on December 11, 2020.
The guy is finished as is Fraudriguez. Maybe he should join the staff there at ULM for washed up head coaches.
If Rich Rod is such a great coach then why is he the side kick for another wash out at Louisiana Monroe. What is Art Briles biggest claim to fame? Art Briles let his Baylor team get smacked around by UCF in the fiesta bowl.
Art Briles got smoked by G5, UCF in the fiesta bowl. The fake med student must have forgotten about that.
Terry Bowden was a washout at Auburn? Art has won 2 Big 12 championships. He has made BCS and New Years six bowl games. He turned Baylor into a powerhouse after years of incompetence.
How much or what has Neal Brown exactly accomplished?
At least he played in BCS bowl. Don’t see WVU going to any of them anytime soon.
since I’m fake, how about I’ll show Vernon my ID. Then you get permabanned or doxxed.
Deal?
Briles first 2 years at Baylor he was 8-16 (3-13). Neals first 2 years 11-11 (7-10).
Art didn't start winning until he started closing his eyes to what was really happening.
Art Briles is one of the best field coaches the past decade, but if any major school hires him as HC or OC will get a huge PR backlash I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, maybe a few years down the road. We'll see.
Dana Holgorsen was 17-9 in his first two seasons as head coach of WVU, so what's your point?
Point is Briles sucked his first 3 years. You can only compare 2 seasons because Neal has only been at WVU 2 years.
Holgorsen 17 wins in 2 years. Not amazing but pretty good. Considering the talent he had those first 2 years that 17 seems kind of low.
Meaningless point at this stage. Holgorsen won the Orange Bowl to conclude his first season, but wasn't a better coach than Briles, and may not be better than Brown, but this remains to be seen.
Holgorsen went from massive OB win all the way down to destroying a decent G5 Houston team. Brown had shown progress between year 1 and year 2. Has out recruited Holgorsen, Stewart and Rod. If he wins then that hard work pays off. If not then somebody is getting a good team their first year. Regardless Brown is going to be here at least 4 to 5 years. Win or lose.
Terry Bowden hasn't done sh%t since Auburn fired his a$$. He flunked out at Akron. If he was so great then why is he a 65 year old guy coaching at Louisiana Monroe. If RR was so great then why is he a 58 year old assistant at that program. When it comes to Art Briles he didn't have a winning season until year three and Baylor was 7-6 that year. Art Briles didn't get Baylor to a bcs bowl until year 6 and they got stomped by UCF and lost to Mich state the following year. Art Briles is 0-2 in the BCS against 2 of the weaker BCS opponents he could have drawn. Maybe you should get your facts straight fake med student.
Neal Brown has won more game his 1st 2 years at wvu than Briles did at Baylor and if you consider his time at Troy its no even close fool. NB took a Troy team to Baton rogue and won.
You idiots do realize how terrible Baylor was before Briles got there, right? Do I need to actually post the stats? Holgorsen also won as many games as Brown during his first two years at WVU
Yes, because winning the Dollar General Bowl is something to beat your chest about, lol. And he beat a mediocre LSU team that went 9-4 that year.
Your just moving the goal posts. Brown took over after 8 years of mediocrity. He took over for Holgorsen who never invested any time trying to recruit and build depth that a power 5 team needs to be successful. Holgorsen left the cup board empty that's why he split for a G5 job. Only an idiot fails to grasp that. Only an idiot would think that an offensive coordinator at Louisiana Monroe could come in here and save the day. Briles got smoked when the bright lights were on only an idiot can't see that.
In some ways everyone is right.
Briles was a great coach but he obviously is also a piece of **** as a person. He only suffered his first 2 years because Baylor was likely one of the worst programs to CFB when he arrived. As empty as Dana left WVU, Baylor at that time was waaaaay worse. What happened at Baylor is on him and will make him untouchable at a P5 school unless he can clean up his rep at a smaller school. Think Tom Bradley with even more baggage.
Rod also was a great coach but he is an even bigger piece of ****. On the plus side, he took a WVU program that was run into the ground by Nehlen his last few years here and made it a solid program. Then he struck it big with Slaton and White. It just seemed like he was never satisfied. Whether it was money, power, or relationships. If he would have stayed, he had an potentially great recruiting class coming in and he could have been set here forever. I truly think he's one of those people that has a hole deep down that can never be filled. That hole was his undoing professionally and personally and has made him untouchable by a major university as a HC, He occupies 2 of the best "what if" questions ever.
1) What if he was 100% committed to WVU? A NC would have been a hard program to turn down by the SEC. Plus how good would that next year's team had been? Haunting stuff.
2) What if he had gone to Alabama? He would have won there. Not Saban levels, but likely far better than where they were. Likely a Gus Malzhan type of course.
Dana was never a great coach because he never put the work in to be great. He loved partying and flashy offenses but never looked at WVU as a complete HC. He never owned that defense was also his responsibility. We are seeing that play out in Houston. His career should be as an OC only, which is what he enjoys anyhow.
Briles was a great coach but he obviously is also a piece of **** as a person. He only suffered his first 2 years because Baylor was likely one of the worst programs to CFB when he arrived. As empty as Dana left WVU, Baylor at that time was waaaaay worse. What happened at Baylor is on him and will make him untouchable at a P5 school unless he can clean up his rep at a smaller school. Think Tom Bradley with even more baggage.
Rod also was a great coach but he is an even bigger piece of ****. On the plus side, he took a WVU program that was run into the ground by Nehlen his last few years here and made it a solid program. Then he struck it big with Slaton and White. It just seemed like he was never satisfied. Whether it was money, power, or relationships. If he would have stayed, he had an potentially great recruiting class coming in and he could have been set here forever. I truly think he's one of those people that has a hole deep down that can never be filled. That hole was his undoing professionally and personally and has made him untouchable by a major university as a HC, He occupies 2 of the best "what if" questions ever.
1) What if he was 100% committed to WVU? A NC would have been a hard program to turn down by the SEC. Plus how good would that next year's team had been? Haunting stuff.
2) What if he had gone to Alabama? He would have won there. Not Saban levels, but likely far better than where they were. Likely a Gus Malzhan type of course.
Dana was never a great coach because he never put the work in to be great. He loved partying and flashy offenses but never looked at WVU as a complete HC. He never owned that defense was also his responsibility. We are seeing that play out in Houston. His career should be as an OC only, which is what he enjoys anyhow.
Holgorsen got to coach his first season in the Big East. Failed to win the Big 12 in his 2nd season as they were picked by many to do so. Also failed at hiring Deforest as DC.
I give you high mark's for a great fishing thread.
...and destroyed Clemson in the Orange Bowl. Stop trying to revise history. Holgorsen had some success at WVU, certainly more success than the current coach SO FAR. Come back and gloat AFTER HCNB wins something of note at WVU. Oh, and here is the Poll results before Holgorsen's second season at WVU:
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Haven't revised anything. Truth will set you free. Oh wait. Forgot you don't want to piss off your boyfriend and go against him.
Current coach 22 games former coach 102 games. Former coach failed in Big 12 like a mighty a drunken coke freak. You can hack all over the current coach when he's had his 8 years to fail. Then you can come back and be the true dick you are. Unfortunately you'll never be able to do it as tOSUgrad fellow.
See the difference dumb ***.
Throw another tantrum and blow out your fake ticker, geezer. I posted facts, and you're so desperate for success by the current coach that you're willing to lie your ancient a$$ off. Not on my watch. Perhaps, you should put me on ignore, and stop posting about me in every thread or keep being exposed for lying. It's your choice. Let's review the real 2012 Big 12 preseason football poll, and note where WVU was picked to finish (hint: it wasn't first, as you suggested):
I posted real facts. Really. I think your confused again. Please take your meds. Your anger towards WVUFF has you all ****** up.
No, you lied, just like your butt buddy. There is no need to cuss just because you've been proven wrong...that fake ticker might short circuit under all of your stress. Take a look at the 2012 Big 12 football preseason poll that I've posted above for your reference, then tell us again as to how WVU was the favorite to win the conference. Google, "Joseph Goebbels," too.
Then you should try to follow your rules then.
Oh boy what a look. Picks by the coaches in Big 12 conference. Yeah boy.
Go back and play with WVUFF. Your profile tOSUgrad has been banned not suspended. I guarantee you can't see any post in the Blue Lot unless I or Greg tell you what it is.
DeForest was a terrible choice at DC. Not to forget, Geno Smith had a meltdown that year and got into a fight with Steadman over a female and ruined the team.
I guarantee you that your IQ isn't above 79. For somebody who gets a free Blue Lot subscription, and has spent all of his golden years on WVU message boards, you've learned absolutely nothing. That's why your WVU application was rejected. I just looked up your "OK State perspective" thread post at 4:12 p.m., and agree with you that: "Kansas can strengthen any conferences [sic] basketball league." Any other stupid comments from you, fake-ticker boy?
You truly are garbage.
Spends your days and nights on a WVU board making an *** out of himself with your stupid tough guy internet drivel.
Can't you leave and do something productive with your life instead of trolling another team's message board. I would be too embarrassed to be here if everyone knew Vernon kicked me off the BL.
You are beyond garbage.
And you would know this because your IQ is below 79. You are a life time of failure.
1. Ohio State Buckeye fan posting on a WVU board
2. Cheers for turds on a WVU message board
3. Gets profile banned on the blue lot and uses another profile just to stalk other individuals.
You need help seriously.
Look gents, Holgs inherited a potentially good O with Geno Austin and Bailey. Holgs left the cupboard bare. He knew he'd have a .500 at best season in 2019. His biggest flaw was relying way too much on Jucos to provide depth. It did work some of the time, but not all the time. Hiring Gibby as a DC was the best move he made. NB is recruiting very well the best WVU has seen in a long time if not ever. Will that translate into wins? Time will tell.
Rodriguez would have probably stayed if Ollie was the AD at the time. Pastilong made little to no effort at fundraising and did not share the same vision as Rod to take WVU to the next level. IMO Rod would have probably left for the Clemson job in 2010. I know he was close to several Clemson boosters.
While there is some value all these old "glory days" coaches offer, I wouldnt mind hiring a few as analyst, but in no way would I have them as an on-the-field role. What the hell do you think parents of recruits would think if we hired Briles? No to mention, the game has evolved tremendously since 2005-2008 & even from 2014...
Im not even sure if I would hire Briles as an analyst... The distraction would not be worth it... There are 1000 better hires we could get as an analyst that wouldnt cause an uproar. Also, Brown did hire a quality offensive analyst in the off-season in Kirk Ciarrocca, which will probably become our OC should Parker leave soon. From what I understand Kirk was Brown's first choice, but Kirk was hired by PSU.
Brown also brought in Jeff Casteel as defensive analyst, so he is diversifying staff talent and bringing on more experienced guys, but leaves on-the-field assistants to younger coaches who can connect & recruit better then old dogs..
Im not even sure if I would hire Briles as an analyst... The distraction would not be worth it... There are 1000 better hires we could get as an analyst that wouldnt cause an uproar. Also, Brown did hire a quality offensive analyst in the off-season in Kirk Ciarrocca, which will probably become our OC should Parker leave soon. From what I understand Kirk was Brown's first choice, but Kirk was hired by PSU.
Brown also brought in Jeff Casteel as defensive analyst, so he is diversifying staff talent and bringing on more experienced guys, but leaves on-the-field assistants to younger coaches who can connect & recruit better then old dogs..