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You're the GM of the SF 49ers. Assume A) Peyton Manning is released by the Colts and B) The reports are true that he's willing to sign a performance-based deal with little or no guaranteed money. Do you try to sign him or do you stick with Alex Smith?
 

57stratdawg

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He's going to want guaranteed money, and probably a significant amount of it. Even if that's true, there will be some teams (Redskins, Dolphins) that will be willing to make a pretty sweet deal.

Of course I would listen, but I wouldn't break the bank.
 

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The guy is very competitive and he knows that if he plays he probably only has 3-4 seasons left in him.

I would think he would have to go to a team close to reaching the super bowl but need a good QB. Im not sure the 49ers are going to go after an injured QB right after Alex Smith starting showing some real signs of being good. SF's problem is that Davis is their best WR, they need a playmaker at WR to get to to the next level, Im not sure Smith is their problem.

Im trying to think of teams that simply need a QB are the Jets, Cardinals Redskins, Dolphins, Rams (maybe), Seahawks, and Minnesota. To me, only the Jets and Cardinals have the potential to be a playoff contender - Cardinals would be a nice landing spot, good WR's, underrated defense, easy division.
 

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Most people agree that he has about 3-4 of elite years left (pending he is healthy). I don't think you go to a team that needs a couple years to rebuild.<div>
</div><div>As a Niner fan, I would love to bring in Manning. Especiallyfor his ability to mentor Kaepernik.</div>
 

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I don't care if those team offer him $35M per season and the chick in my avatar... Peyton's going to a Super Bowl contender if the Colts release him. He's already got a quadrillion dollars and his brother just 1-upped him last night in the ring department.

The Jets and Niners seem to be the most likely landing spots for him and I think both teams will make a respectable push for him. I don't know who I'd give the edge to, though. New York is obviously the bigger market, but I think San Fran is more of a lock to be solid for a while. One way or another, it will be an interesting offseason.
 

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57StratDawg said:
He's going to want guaranteed money, and probably a significant amount of it. Even if that's true, there will be some teams (Redskins, Dolphins) that will be willing to make a pretty sweet deal.

Of course I would listen, but I wouldn't break the bank.
reports are that he;s open to signing a deal like that. <div>
</div><div>furthermore, it might be the only deal he can get from a contender like the jets, 49ers, or even the cards (as someone said, easy division, solid underrated D, good offensive playmakers). those franchises aren't going to commit big guaranteed money to peyton with his health up in the air. he'll either be able to sign with one of those teams early when there is a market and a bidding war for him. who will inch in enough guaranteed dollars + the best incentives (looks for some kinda stair stepped games played incentive - 8, 12, 16 games played or something)? or he can stubbornly hold out hoping to prove to be healthier (maybe so or maybe not) and let the teams address their QB issues, and then be stuck with only 1 or 2 landing spots period, not even factoring in the desirability factor, and he'll get low balled.</div>
 

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OMlawdog said:
Im trying to think of teams that simply need a QB are the Jets, Cardinals Redskins, Dolphins, Rams (maybe), Seahawks, and Minnesota. To me, only the Jets and Cardinals have the potential to be a playoff contender - Cardinals would be a nice landing spot, good WR's, underrated defense, easy division.
in the nfl, there is enough parity that if peyton is healthy, he could turn any of those franchises into at minimum playoff contenders immediately. both the dolphins and skins have good underrated Ds too, and enough skill position talents that if they upgraded from mat moore (dolphins) or john beck/sexy rexy (skins) to a healthy peyton, they could be making a playoff push next year.
 

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but they just paid Johnson big last year. though, he'd be in Volunteer country on a decent team. or Houston, Denver, Arizona or Buffalo. Houston may as well sell Shaub to the Redskins and go after Peyton. with the Houston defense, wideoutsand run game they'd be a playofffavorite immediately.
 

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The dolphins have everything in place to be a playoff team except a QB. Their QB play has beenatrociousfor a decade. I'm afraid they are about to break the bank or do something very stupid to find a QB.<div>
</div><div>Peyton could do worse though as a dolphins fan I'd rather them go another direction.</div>
 

57stratdawg

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The Dolphins are closer than you think. They had a top 10 D this year, a Pro-Bowl WR, first round picks on the OL, and Reggie Bush (1,000 yard rusher this year). They went 6-3 over their last 9 games with Matt f*cking Moore at QB.

Now, con would be he'd have to go up against Tom Brady 2 times a season.

Don't be obtuse. Peyton will sign with who gives him the most money. A 'SuperBowl' contender might be the difference between team A and team B if they're offering basically the same pay, but he won't turn down significantly less money to play for a contender. Did the Cards winning a World Series help Albert Pujols make up his mind over a decision that "had nothing to do with money"? No.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Peyton will go where he gets paid the most. </span>
 

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that Alex Smith is a free agent (I believe) I let him walk. I don't think he will ever take them to the Super Bowl and I think he holds them back in some ways even though he had a career year. I honestly do not see what the 49ers see in him.

I think Peyton Manning could take them to the Super Bowl Championship, and I think it's worth the risk to sign him to a big one year contract. The 49ers were 16 million under the cap- I would use that and Alex Smith's contract which was 5 million and offer him about a 10 million dollar deal and if Alex Smith wants to stay fine, if he wants to leave fine.
 

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Alex Smith has hit his ceiling. I've watched 95% of his games since he's been in the league, and it was painful. Most people around here give him the benefit of doubt because of coaching situations and the Mullen connection. And everyone thinks he is some freak athlete because oftherun against the Saints, but he only rushed for 179 yds this year (career high). <div>
</div><div>In my eyes, keeping Smith around is only stunting the teams growth potential. Unfortunately, he will be judged by most on his performance against the Saints...which was ananomaly. I hope the Niner's front office doesn't getsentimental.
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Instant family feud.

Food fight breaks out when Olivia gets them together for Thanksgiving dinner.
 

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[b said:
dawgs[/b]]it might be the only deal he can get from a contender like the jets, 49ers, or even the cards (as someone said, easy division, solid underrated D, good offensive playmakers). those franchises aren't going to commit big guaranteed money to peyton with his health up in the air.
Nobody is going to offer Peyton a guaranteed contract unless they're desperate. I think his career is over.
 

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and don't even consider Peyton. Alex Smith has had a different offensive coordinator every year that he has been at the niners. This is the first year that they have had some stability on that team since he has been there. And... he didn't look that awful. He actually put up some pretty decent numbers. I think that he's going to have a good year next year. They really need to get another big receiver in there for him to throw to though. Crabtree hasn't produced much for him. And as far as Peyton is concerned.. he maybe has 3 years left to play at a competitive level. And that's even if he comes back fully healthy, which is highly questionable. Too much of a gamble to pick him up. Especially with the salary you'll have to pay him
 

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I say if I'm the 49ers GM, I absolutely go after Peyton. I was one win away from the Super Bowl last season. I've got a good running game that will keep the pressure off Peyton and allow him to really work the play action game, which he excels at doing. I've got arguably the best TE in the NFL in Vernon Davis for Peyton to throw it to. And Crabtree would be a big beneficiary of signing Peyton as well. Further, since I don't have to give Peyton a bunch of guaranteed cash, I can go make another move in free agency to bring in a WR to go with Crabtree & Davis, maybe an aging Reggie Wayne or Mario Manningham. I also don't see Alex Smith as my long term QB. Sure, he had a career year last season. And his TD run and the throw to Vernon Davis against the Saints were absolutely clutch. But I've got the chance to sign one of the all-time greats at the position. And that guy is going to be looking to win immediately. I can't keep giving this other guy a chance when Peyton could put my team over the top in terms of winning a championship.

Another reason I think SF would be attractive for Peyton is because of their D. He won't have the pressure to score 28-35 points a game to have a chance to win. He will enter every week knowing if I can put up 21, we're going to have an excellent chance to win.

All in all, I think SF makes a ton of sense for Peyton.
 

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Regardless of the season that Alex Smith had this year, signing Manning to a NFC championship contending team would boost ticket sales.
 

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but I'm not sure that he deserves his recent rap for being an ego driven hard ***. It's obvious that his players really like him, he has already shown that he can work well with difficult personalities like Alex Smith and Vernon Davis, and the only incident he's really had was the infamous overly energetic handshake with Schwartz. That was just one of those caught up in the moment type things that I'm sure he wishes had never happened.

The other thing that I think is getting a little overplayed is Peyton's health. This is a guy that has basically never been hurt or hit very hard in his entire NFL career. Even though his neck surgery is a different ballgame than just about any other kind of operation, most of the guys that never played well again after that had to add that condition on top of a laundry list of other serious injuries throughout their careers. From everything I've heard about Peyton's condition, the primary concern was nerve growth and him regaining functionality of all of his muscles. Once that happened, he would be fine.
 

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A lot of us (me included) were looking at this from a purely football and cost standpoint. You have to also consider the revenue signing Peyton would generate.
 

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I had forgotten that SF is trying to get a new stadium. With that in mind, it makes even more sense for them to make a push to sign him. Candle Stick was great in its day, but now it's a dump. See the power outage from their late season MNF game. Signing Peyton would be a big incentive in getting them a new stadium. Fan support would go through the roof, and it's not like SF has ever had a problem with fan support. Plus, with the extra revenue signing a guy like Peyton would generate, they could go out and get another WR or two to give Peyton some more weapons in the passing game.