At least we're not USM
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Memphis racked up 516 yards, with their 4th string QB??? 17, that sucks for Fedora. Oh, and Memphis was ranked 102nd nationally in offense.
qbdog said:
Yeah, so much for bringing in an offensive minded coach to build attendance. Losing four straight to sub par teams ain't gonna do it. Bower spoiled us and made us think just having winning seasons wasn't good enough. Bowers teams may not have been the most exciting to watch but he did win.
USM has made a HUGE mistake! Rumor is Bower will be the head coach of Memphis next year which will make things very interesting. This is just a rumor going around Hattiesburg so not sure how much truth there is to it.
Memphis would be wise to hire Bower. He's be perfect for them.
Anyway, did I read right that USM is 0-4 in CUSA?
That's sad.
Anyway, did I read right that USM is 0-4 in CUSA?
That's sad.
look at Michigan. Rodriguez is a great coach, but they suck ***. I have no doubt however, that they will be back in the top ten in two years.
An interesting choice....Sherrill is being rumored to be in the running as well. I think both would be upgrades from Tommy West, but I think Sherrill is the "bigger" higher as far as ticket sales go and excitement around the program. However, Bower would be a better pick for the long run.USM2006 said:
...Memphis has been ranked in the top 25 of offense all year. It was kick-started when they rolled up 500 yards of offense against Ole Miss. They are currently 19th in total offense at 439.7 ypg, and I'm not sure if that includes last night's game or not.
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Frances Drebin said:
They didn't put up 500 yds of offense on Ole Miss. Your comment is incorrect. It was 453.
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@ Marshall - 11 penalties for 129 yards = loss
UTEP - one play at the 5 yd line to score but then a late hit happens and 3 missed field goals in a row = loss. any one of those things not happening = win
@Rice - USM 573 yards, Rice 586, plus 2 turnovers. also a missed field goal and a missed extra point. when your D sucks and your kicker sucks you cant afford turnovers = loss
@Memphis - not giving the ball to damien fletcher most of the first half thus he only gets 9 rushing yards = loss .
wow take out one aspect , just one of each game and USM is looking at at least 5 wins instead of 2. any of this sound familiar?
hey USM2006....you genius you...you should thank the Richard for letting Bower go because it doesn't matter who was coach this year, Bower, Fedora, Urban Meyer or Big Bird, this was going to be a losing season. Bower for most of his years after 2000 has been winning on part from the leftovers of what recruiting was being done and the fact that the other teams in C-USA just plain sucked. Picture UAB coming into C-USA in 1995 and by 2000 started to get some of our bama recruits and Troy going to 1-A and their goes all our alabama recruits that we used to pick up, about 8 - 10 of them a year after Bama and Auburn got their fill. Couple that in with teams like Tulsa starting to go spread and Bower staying the same 'ol Bower ball and then other teams in the conference, while still bad, caught up to us. Bower was still stuck in 1995. You can clearly see that by firing 17 OC's in 17 years, the total time he was here. He controlled the offense and he didnt want to have a new gameplan to keep up with the changes.
Time to wake up USM2006. Wake up from your slumber. I am an eagle but our eagle team has been losing the past 3 or 4 years. those so-called "winning seasons" were only masked by last minute game winners and crappy bowl trips. Bower lost to memphis 3 times out of the last 4 years before. short memory you seem to have. You can thank Bower for this losing season even if it wasn't on his watch. But make no mistake. This is his doing.
Bower didnt change. He didnt try to change recruiting strategies and instead tried to live off of what we had been barely getting by with. If it werent for 2 or 3 Defensive experienced players last year we would have had a losing season. If you are whining because Bower got fired you should be thankful he was and the AD didn't keep him to ruin his "legacy" that ESPN has so much fallen in love with. The AD knew this was coming. He saw the writing on the wall. Heck i bet even Bower is thankful.
UTEP - one play at the 5 yd line to score but then a late hit happens and 3 missed field goals in a row = loss. any one of those things not happening = win
@Rice - USM 573 yards, Rice 586, plus 2 turnovers. also a missed field goal and a missed extra point. when your D sucks and your kicker sucks you cant afford turnovers = loss
@Memphis - not giving the ball to damien fletcher most of the first half thus he only gets 9 rushing yards = loss .
wow take out one aspect , just one of each game and USM is looking at at least 5 wins instead of 2. any of this sound familiar?
hey USM2006....you genius you...you should thank the Richard for letting Bower go because it doesn't matter who was coach this year, Bower, Fedora, Urban Meyer or Big Bird, this was going to be a losing season. Bower for most of his years after 2000 has been winning on part from the leftovers of what recruiting was being done and the fact that the other teams in C-USA just plain sucked. Picture UAB coming into C-USA in 1995 and by 2000 started to get some of our bama recruits and Troy going to 1-A and their goes all our alabama recruits that we used to pick up, about 8 - 10 of them a year after Bama and Auburn got their fill. Couple that in with teams like Tulsa starting to go spread and Bower staying the same 'ol Bower ball and then other teams in the conference, while still bad, caught up to us. Bower was still stuck in 1995. You can clearly see that by firing 17 OC's in 17 years, the total time he was here. He controlled the offense and he didnt want to have a new gameplan to keep up with the changes.
Time to wake up USM2006. Wake up from your slumber. I am an eagle but our eagle team has been losing the past 3 or 4 years. those so-called "winning seasons" were only masked by last minute game winners and crappy bowl trips. Bower lost to memphis 3 times out of the last 4 years before. short memory you seem to have. You can thank Bower for this losing season even if it wasn't on his watch. But make no mistake. This is his doing.
Bower didnt change. He didnt try to change recruiting strategies and instead tried to live off of what we had been barely getting by with. If it werent for 2 or 3 Defensive experienced players last year we would have had a losing season. If you are whining because Bower got fired you should be thankful he was and the AD didn't keep him to ruin his "legacy" that ESPN has so much fallen in love with. The AD knew this was coming. He saw the writing on the wall. Heck i bet even Bower is thankful.
...Jeff Bower is an epic fail in the annuals of college football.
Right up there with Nebraska, who ran off a 9 win HC.
Right up there with Nebraska, who ran off a 9 win HC.
Ain't karma a *****! Same thing happened to Bower in '93 when the eagle mascot died preseason. Snakebit!
With any good luck, we'd have a winning season right now, not good, but still winning. We might now lose the rest of our games. We're not 'tanking' mind you. ('Tanking' = giving up, obviously, during a game or season.) We're just trying to adapt to new systems on offense and defense and making too many mistakes doing so. Also, we have very little experienced talent on the defensive side of the ball - too many first-year players starting, especially on the DLine (we have no pass rush and can't even blitz).
Admit it though, you'd kill to have Fletch, Davis, and DeAndre playing for you!
With any good luck, we'd have a winning season right now, not good, but still winning. We might now lose the rest of our games. We're not 'tanking' mind you. ('Tanking' = giving up, obviously, during a game or season.) We're just trying to adapt to new systems on offense and defense and making too many mistakes doing so. Also, we have very little experienced talent on the defensive side of the ball - too many first-year players starting, especially on the DLine (we have no pass rush and can't even blitz).
Admit it though, you'd kill to have Fletch, Davis, and DeAndre playing for you!
Yep, that makes sense. It's funny watching USM fans say the same things Ole Miss fans said in 2005.
Fedora might end up being successful, but right now he looks like a big fat bust. You don't fire a winner while he is still winning.
Fedora might end up being successful, but right now he looks like a big fat bust. You don't fire a winner while he is still winning.
that is exactly what i am saying. the last time he recruited anything worth a crap was in the 2000-2001 season. the key players we had at that time saved our precious winning streak for about 3-4 more years. now we are at 2005/2006 and the teams of CUSA have caught up. go back to those years and stare as long as you like to the glaring CUSA losses that start to pop up all over the place. the 6 or 7 wins and crappy bowl wins to mask all the really horrible teams we played and beat and a lot of them barely beat is not what i consider "winning"..that is not when you can see the slow progression over 7 long grueling years its not. you seem to remember only going to a bowl last year and evidently havent followed the decline. look at how many conference games we lost from 1995 to the middle of 2000. you could count them on one hand. now count the conference losses from mid 2000 - 2007. get your head out of the sand and take off the ESPN glasses.Stormrider81 said:
if Bower were still head coach we would have one win because we wouldnt have had the offense to beat Arkansas State earlier this year and our recruiting would be about 1/3 of what it was when Fedora came on board regardless of who started or made it to campus. that means we would be at 1 - 6.
i am not bashing fedora. its only been 8 games. ole miss ended up putting up with it for 3 years. that's not anywhere close to 8 games. lets see where things fall. if in 3 years we still suck then you can call me out on it. if not, then that means we have improved a great deal.
Were Ole Miss fans this stupid? I fear we were.
Bower had 39 wins in 5 years, almost 8 a year.
Fedora so far has 2 wins in his first 8 games.
Also, most USM fans and most college people were saying USM would win 7 maybe 8 games, now all of a sudden this team isn't talented enough to win 5 or 6 games?
I swear I feel like I have gone back in time.
Bower had 39 wins in 5 years, almost 8 a year.
Fedora so far has 2 wins in his first 8 games.
Also, most USM fans and most college people were saying USM would win 7 maybe 8 games, now all of a sudden this team isn't talented enough to win 5 or 6 games?
I swear I feel like I have gone back in time.
All the man did was win, but he didn't win enough so they fired him. His replacement is having a terrible season. Do they blame the new coach? Nope, they blame the old coach who did nothing but win. Amazing.
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usmsci said:
This is your dumbest quote of all. Recruiting rankings don't mean a damn thing if the players don't get to campus, or if they get to campus and they suck.
Fedora had you guys all excited in February, nevermind the fact that a lot of the reasons for your excitement will never play a down for USM.
All that matters is who gets to campus and whether or not they produce a winner. So Bower didn't wow you with his recruiting. Well, obviously he was doing something right, because he was finding players good enough to win football games. The sad thing for USM fans is they are about to find out that their program is at best a mid-level CUSA program. Bower was actually over-achieving at USM, yet you guys wanted more.
I can't say too much because we were definitely in your same boat, but at least the coach we fired hadn't concluded his career in a bowl game. It's amazing the parallels you're going through with your program though. In about 3-4 years, you'll be wishing you had Bower back.
Nothing like someone trying to convince people that a coach with what 13 or 14 straight winning seasons before he got canned would have a worse record right now than the new guy on the job. Fedora - no head coaching experience and has 2 wins, yet somehow we are supposed to believe a man who had kept his team above .500 for over a decade would have less wins. Go sell that somewhere else.