Worked landscaping with some Guatemalans one summer during college. My supervisor spoke Spanish and told me to always address them as "mis putas". He got fired, those Guatemalans quit. Win win.
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Worked landscaping with some Guatemalans one summer during college. My supervisor spoke Spanish and told me to always address them as "mis putas". He got fired, those Guatemalans quit. Win win.
So just because something isn't official means you can just do whatever the **** you want? Interesting theory. Like to see you try that out in the real world.
personally, IDGAF whether I'm talking to Nobel winners or inmates. If knowing their language means an extra several grand for the same job or allows me to pick my job and beat out the competition, sign me up.
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When it comes to speaking a language, that's exactly what it means. You're not breaking a law. Whatever benefit you give up for not speaking the language of the majority is on you, but it's not illegal.
Did you read my original post? Those are the words out of my friends and parents mouth... both statements...there is no implication I made that everyone that thinks the first also thinks the 2nd. I am not speaking on behalf of everyone, solely those people I had the conversation with.
You made a list of laws and official things (driving rules, currency, laws) and compared it to something that is not bound by the law at any level. Your point is flawed.
Yeah that is perfect. Let's incarcerate all illegal immigrants so we can then pay an even more egregious amount in taxes and allow the BOP become even more of a multi billion dollar business for the 1% than it already is.... That will solve a lot...
You want to see an economy absolutely implode even more... Just start deporting and incarcerating every single illegal immigrant in this country... You have a very one sided and just plain wrong view of the complete effects of illegal immigrants on this country.
I work for a Fortune 100 company and our largest growing division is our Latin American division. If you speak Spanish and have access to a major airport, you can advance rapidly if you're willing to travel and eventually relocate. I know someone who covers Puerto Rico, the DR and Haiti and if you have the flexibility, it's a pretty cool gig.
My kids will absolutely learn a foreign language as I'm almost fluent in Spanish myself. But I would push them towards Spanish, Arabic or Japanese.
My kids will absolutely learn a foreign language as I'm almost fluent in Spanish myself. But I would push them towards Spanish, Arabic or Japanese.
@allabouttheUK
You do realize that undocumented/illegal immigrant workers contribute well over $15 billion dollars a year to social security right? Illegal immigrants used a little less that $1 billion. So the US Economy is in the green. Over the years, undocumented workers have contributed up to $300 billion, or nearly 10 percent, of the $2.7 trillion Social Security Trust Fund. Also data shows that as illegal immigrants grow in number in states, pay for "skilled workers" goes up which in turn helps the economy.
You do realize that undocumented/illegal immigrant workers contribute well over $15 billion dollars a year to social security right? Illegal immigrants used a little less that $1 billion. So the US Economy is in the green. Over the years, undocumented workers have contributed up to $300 billion, or nearly 10 percent, of the $2.7 trillion Social Security Trust Fund. Also data shows that as illegal immigrants grow in number in states, pay for "skilled workers" goes up which in turn helps the economy.
So were just going to ignore, that as of 2014, 31 of the 50 states have laws on the books that make English the official language of the state. That's over half of the USA, including several states that have a heavy immigrant population.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-states-make-english-their-official-language/
But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your point.
Teddy was wrong, well he was talking about a different time at least where Europeans still enclaved themselves in America.
There is something to be said about remembering your roots, abandoning them first generation is cowardly even imho.
There is something to be said about remembering your roots, abandoning them first generation is cowardly even imho.
So you're against incarcerating people who break the law because it adds money to the POB, but you're against deporting those who should be incarcerated for breaking the law.
Let me guess, you think it's ok for minorities to NOT be charged with misdemeanors as well, right?
You would actually see the economy improve. You think a lot of these illegal immigrants keep the money in the U.S.? Hell no, they send those bills not checks back to mexico. They take low end jobs meant to be for high school students, college students, and people wanting/needing a second job. They suck of the U.S. tit and give nothing in return like Americans do! Screw the "service" they provide, they aren't a commodity that can't be done without.
Learning a 2nd language is fine but if you think we, Americans are the only ones that think people that come to their country need to learn the language, you must not have visited many other countries.
- Pick where you want to travel to/retire/visit
- Learn that language
- Feel smug when other tourists struggle with basic things like directions and ordering drinks
I get that you think you're smart because you can google stuff, but languages do not meet the same level of enforcement that laws about driving, currency use, differing laws between US/Mexico. You're reaching. Nice try, though.
Your entire argument was based on the English language not being official. I prove it wrong for 62% of the USA, and this is the best rebuttal you can come up with? Maybe you should move on to topics that require less intellectual thought.
I'm pretty sure that my grandfather, as well as many of yours, didn't kill a bunch of Japs and Germans so that we could learn Spanish.Ole Teddy would be roasted today
Lol, you realize research has been done that these low end jobs prefer the high schoolers if possible, but they just don't work at the rate of these "awful" immigrant workers. Still even if SOME send money back, The US is still coming out in the positive.
And incarceration doesn't work. Now should incarceration be used in some cases? Yes. But for non violent drug charges and simply being an illegal immigrant? Absolutely not.
I drive a car down the wrong side of the road, I get a ticket.
I try and use foreign currency at a store, I do not get my goods or services.
I break a law that is legal in another country, but not in the US. I get cited or arrested.
I don't speak English. .....................
These are the examples that YOU used and tried to equate. You are a failure at debating. English is not the official language of the United States. Simple enough. While it may be official in some states, that basically means nothing at all. Feel free to google it some more. You are incorrect and I am not.
I try and use foreign currency at a store, I do not get my goods or services.
I break a law that is legal in another country, but not in the US. I get cited or arrested.
I don't speak English. .....................
These are the examples that YOU used and tried to equate. You are a failure at debating. English is not the official language of the United States. Simple enough. While it may be official in some states, that basically means nothing at all. Feel free to google it some more. You are incorrect and I am not.
The only insect allowed in the state of Kentucky is the honeybee. All other insects need to GTFO.
Official things in KY
Official things in KY
If you aren't involved in a dozen or so mlm ventures I would be surprised. whew.
So why you think the high school workers just don't work as hard? Because they have been taught by their parents that they don't have to, that's why! Hard work and self reliance used to mean something in this country, now it's all about everybody hugging and being offended by every damn thing, and we all must help those that are too stupid or lazy to help themselves.
Some...might wanna change that to most! If they are here without family, you can damn well guarantee that the majority of that money is going back south of the border.
Yes the U.S. is doing absolutely great...unemployment is a thing of the past, welfare numbers are near non-existent...Plenty of positives for the U.S.
Oh and GTFO with the low end job's prefer high schoolers, bs. If they say that crap in a survey it's because they don't want to be shutdown or fined for paying less than min wage and under the table to their undocumented ILLEGAL workers.
So I am incorrect in that 31 states have laws on the book making English the official language of their state? Interesting theory. Have any other facts you would like to deny?
Small town, KY here. Lived in Europe for 10 years and learned enough of the host language to communicate.
Small town KY and you could use Spanish every day? Why?
Have you ever listened to a song other than My Old Kentucky Home? If so you are a bad American because it is the Kentucky state song. Unless you live in Massachusetts, then the only song you can listen to is All Hail to Massachusetts. If you live in New York than the only song you can listen to is I love New York.
I'll make this easy. Here is the only song you can listen to in each state.
Here where I live in Central VA, the only time I ever encounter someone speaking a foreign language is on TV and a random foreigner in Walmart. I guess it would be beneficial to know Spanish at the Mexican restaurant (like a real authentic Mexican restaurant) but they all the waiters speak English and the menus are all in English.
Learning multiple languages is almost never unbeneficial. May end up using it, or needing to know it, very infrequently but it would be beneficial.
Alas, one would have to do a cost-benefit analysis to determine if it's worth the time to even learn a foreign language. For me it is most definitely not worth the time or money to learn one. I know a little bit of Spanish, took three years of it in secondary school and two semesters of it in college, but I have forgotten the overwhelming majority due to lack of need for it.
That is the only thing you have said that is, in any shape or form, correct. The problem is, you didn't know that until you googled it in the past hour. While you've been full of faulty opinions and hyperbole, you have provided no facts. You equated breaking laws to not speaking English. Fail. You try to rebut my claim that the US has no official language (go back and look). Fail. You bring up frivolous declaration of an 'official language' in some states that has, for the most part, zero legal bearing. Fail.
You've been owned so bad, it's hilarious. Just ignore me or whatever so I don't have to keep making you look like a fool.
Actually it's been more than 4 decades, you can go all the way back to the end of WWII. Americans abroad are more than willing to respect host nations culture and language, and assimilate accordingly.
Because there is a significant population in my town that speaks the language. Anyone in my town that owns a business (of any kind), works in healthcare, law enforcement, education, government, etc. would benefit by knowing how to speak Spanish.
In your town, not every town. What is needed to accommodate those who don't belong, in your area may not be needed in another area.
I have had conversations with progressives who try to claim there is no "official language" in the U.S.,which is total BS! English is our language. If you live in this country, you should assimilate and learn English. Our newspapers, media, entertainment, academics are all in English. Anyone who goes to a country should adapt to the place they are coming instead of the other way around.
However, somehow this stance is frowned upon and mocked. That is essentially saying that someone should be able to come into your house and tell you that you have to accommodate and adapt to them.