Auburn is going to beat Ole Miss
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You may be right, and I'm definitely concerned about that game mainly because the spread rushing attack has historically given our defense fits.
However, I wouldn't count it as a guarantee. It's definitely one of the games I'm most worried about because it's on the road, but we'll put up points on their defense.
However, I wouldn't count it as a guarantee. It's definitely one of the games I'm most worried about because it's on the road, but we'll put up points on their defense.
....Auburn is a scary football team. Malzahn had us very off balance, and nobody knew what was coming. They have a solid offensive line, excellent tailbacks, and a capable qb with experience, plus Burns who is the wildcat threat.
Defensively, they are probably middle of the pack.
They are not last year's Auburn team.
Defensively, they are probably middle of the pack.
They are not last year's Auburn team.
....I'd say that is probably the second most dangerous game on there. I think ya'll take LSU at home. Bama is the most dangerous, but Auburn on the road is a close second.
DowntownDawg said:
I put Auburn at 3rd honestly. I put Alabama and South Carolina in a near tie for first. Thursday night on the road makes SC one of our toughest.
If you had me rank our games in terms of most dangerous for a loss, I'd do it this way:
1a. Alabama
1b. @South Carolina
3. @Auburn
4. Arkansas
5. LSU
6. Tennessee
7. @Vanderbilt - some would rank this higher, but I'm very confident with this one
8. @MSU
And we won't lose any of the 3 remaining OOC games under any circumstances, though obviously UAB has to come ahead of the two 1AAs.
DowntownDawg said:
How can you possibly leave out the Thursday night ESPN game at SC?
Auburn may be third, but who knows at this point. They have not proved anything yet.
When you talk about how off balance they had you, have you considered that your defense is FAR worse than it has been in previous years. You hired Carl Torbush as a DC. He is no Ellis Johnson. Your talent is thin on defense.
You were 11th in scoring defense, 10th in total defense, 11th in rushing defense, 11th in interceptions, 12th in sacks, and 12th in redzone defense last year and apparently you have gotten worse. The only bright spot on defense last year was a few good DBs who had you 7th in pass defense effeciency and those guys graduated.
Let's don't pretend AU faced some stiff test this past weekend.
We may get a better idea about Auburn this week in their game with West Virginia, but WV isn't exactly an NCAA defensive powerhouse. They gave up 20 to Liberty University in their opener.
While I definately think Auburn's offense is better suited for the personnel this year and will improve, let's save the hype until after they play some real SEC defenses.
...but I was very impressed with Auburn's playcalling and talent.
I also think Auburn is a better team than SC, and playing down there on a Saturday night is at least the equivalent of playing in Columbia on a Thursday night. In my experience, Thursday night games <<< Saturday night games when it comes to atmosphere.
Part of the reason that our defense had those rankings last year was due to our woeful offense. They were constantly put in bad positions, and I think they were prone to quitting in the 4th quarter when they saw they weren't going to get anything from the other side of the ball. We got fully throttled against you guys and G. Tech, but those were the exceptions. We weren't that great, but nothing like Saturday night.
I also think Auburn is a better team than SC, and playing down there on a Saturday night is at least the equivalent of playing in Columbia on a Thursday night. In my experience, Thursday night games <<< Saturday night games when it comes to atmosphere.
Part of the reason that our defense had those rankings last year was due to our woeful offense. They were constantly put in bad positions, and I think they were prone to quitting in the 4th quarter when they saw they weren't going to get anything from the other side of the ball. We got fully throttled against you guys and G. Tech, but those were the exceptions. We weren't that great, but nothing like Saturday night.
Go check the record of the home team on ESPN Thursday night.DowntownDawg said:
Also look at Auburn's opponents thus far, then look at SC's. With that in mind, how can you realisticall say Auburn is better? Because of their record?
Auburn never had bad talent. They just had an OC forced on them that was running a system that they didn't have the players for. They will be much improved this year.
and was real suprised to get back here and see all the "Torbush blows" talk.
I just thought Auburn executed flawlessly. There plays worked like they draw them up. They've scored 100 pts, have 1200 yards of offense so far, McCaleb is the first back in SEC history to break 100 yards in his first 2 games, and they have some play makers on the outside.
State's front 7 isn't terrible, but Malzahn is gonna be a d1 headcoach before too long. That guy is unreal.
How can you say South Car has been more impressive than Auburn? Thats BS..
I just thought Auburn executed flawlessly. There plays worked like they draw them up. They've scored 100 pts, have 1200 yards of offense so far, McCaleb is the first back in SEC history to break 100 yards in his first 2 games, and they have some play makers on the outside.
State's front 7 isn't terrible, but Malzahn is gonna be a d1 headcoach before too long. That guy is unreal.
How can you say South Car has been more impressive than Auburn? Thats BS..
There's a reason that Auburn executed flawlessly. It's either their offense or our defense. I am leaning more towards our D.
Todd floated some passes that should have been intercepted. We either dropped them or our safeties were not quick enough to cover in the zone.
Todd floated some passes that should have been intercepted. We either dropped them or our safeties were not quick enough to cover in the zone.
because our defense played that bad. Honestly, if you think State didn't play awful D, then I'm not really sure what game you watched. USCar looks more impressive based on what they have done so far. NC State and Georgia don't really look like barn-burners yet, but probably much much better than LA Tech and State.
...because it's my opinion, jackass. How can you realistically say SC is better? They lost to an average Georgia team and played Croomball and luckly won against a mediocre NC State team.
Auburn has rolled up over 500 yards for two straight weeks even if it was on a true MAC team and one that plays like one.
Since we are both posting our amateur opinions on a message board, and you aren't, say preparing the day's football practice schedule or watching game film, I'll venture to say that I have seen pretty close to the same amount of football as you. And Malzahn called a brilliant game, one of the best I've seen from a standpoint of unpredictability. I know that we helped that alot, but it was still damn impressive.
And where did I disagree with you about their talent level? They are very talented. Read my first post.
Auburn has rolled up over 500 yards for two straight weeks even if it was on a true MAC team and one that plays like one.
Since we are both posting our amateur opinions on a message board, and you aren't, say preparing the day's football practice schedule or watching game film, I'll venture to say that I have seen pretty close to the same amount of football as you. And Malzahn called a brilliant game, one of the best I've seen from a standpoint of unpredictability. I know that we helped that alot, but it was still damn impressive.
And where did I disagree with you about their talent level? They are very talented. Read my first post.
He still is terrible in my opinion. If Im MSU's defensive coordinator I make Todd beat me. Make him make the throws and make him throw under pressure.
He is not mobile, and he does not have a strong arm. In fact, I never understood why the DE would even play the QB on the option play, Todd is not a threat to run the ball, in fact he got rid of it as soon as he could when those plays were called.
Todd does not scare me at all, now Ontario is a player and he will be tough.
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He is not mobile, and he does not have a strong arm. In fact, I never understood why the DE would even play the QB on the option play, Todd is not a threat to run the ball, in fact he got rid of it as soon as he could when those plays were called.
Todd does not scare me at all, now Ontario is a player and he will be tough.
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DowntownDawg said:
Playing on a Thursday night is much less about the atmosphere and more about the short week. Road teams were 3-13 on ESPN Thursday night games last year, including one very big home team upset when Oregon State beat USC.
Only 1 of the 3 road team victories on Thursday nights could've been considered an upset.
I'd much rather play a team on a Saturday night road game with a more electric atmosphere than play them on a Thursday with less of an atmosphere. It's the travel schedule and the short week that make life so difficult for road teams on Thursday games in comparison to home teams.
Everything else aside, right now SC ranks ahead of Auburn on our schedule in terms of dangerous games.
defenders for the Ole Miss game and it appears they are finding some offense so Ole Miss will have to show up and play well to win that game. It is hard to tell how good Auburn is with the defensive performance we had from late in the 2nd quarter until the end but Auburn is certainly a much better team than they were last year and playing at home that is not a gimme for the Rebs. I'll say it again, if I am a defensive coordinator playing Ole Miss it would be a very long night for McCluster because I would have someone knocking his *** silly every play if they could catch him.
...your season starts that Thursday night. I don't think your guys will be too tried and banged up against that powerhouse SELA team. And the Memphis team you beat was exposed Saturday. Not to mention an open date.
I just don't see all that stuff taking a huge toll on your team. You should be very well rested. But whatever, maybe we'll both be right and you'll lose both of them. Fine by me.
I just don't see all that stuff taking a huge toll on your team. You should be very well rested. But whatever, maybe we'll both be right and you'll lose both of them. Fine by me.
sure the game is not a slam dunk OM win -- it's probably our toughest road game -- but it seems weird to up and post that OM will lose the game without any kind of analysis to support it. We'll see.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Heck this is Six Pack Speak, the message board that you have guy calling for the head of a defensive coach after two games. Not weird, standard operating procedure.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p>jackstefano said:
I didn't have to resort to calling you jackass to make a point, but I guess you are one of those internet tough guys who take this **** real serious.DowntownDawg said:
I realize that it was just your opinion, but I just thought (like others) that is is a little silly to rank Auburn as our second toughest opponent because they whipped what looks to be the 11-12th best team in the SEC at home. Meanwhile SC, played a tight game at UGA. You even mentioned LSU, who doesn't look like world beaters this year and we get them at home.
You can keep believing that they are an offensive powerhouse if it makes you feel better.
I was agreeing with you about the talent, jackass. I have been saying this all summer/fall, while many posters here were predicting success for your team against Auburn. I've always maintained that Auburn had talent.
http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com?topic=26607
...i just think that is your second most dangerous game, mainly because it's on the road, against a good team that is a division rival. I wonder if Malzahn has any interest in beating Nutt's ***.
Anyway, like I said, I hope you lose both. I just don't see SC being the tougher game. Neither of us has any great evidence to in the form of a win-loss record to substantiate our opinions. I don't think your team will be all that exhausted after a weak Memphis team, open date, and SELA.
I think you are a little bit sensitive that some lowly State fans think Ole Miss might lose a game or two, and that we have no right to base opinions on what other SEC teams do against us, since we don't count and all. Especially since OM fans have been pencilling the Auburn game in as a W all year long. It's nervous rationalization on your part. "Sure, they put up 49 points on an SEC team, but it was just State. It doesn't count." We'll see.
Again, I don't have any illusions that we are a good football team. I was just very impressed by them.
Anyway, like I said, I hope you lose both. I just don't see SC being the tougher game. Neither of us has any great evidence to in the form of a win-loss record to substantiate our opinions. I don't think your team will be all that exhausted after a weak Memphis team, open date, and SELA.
I think you are a little bit sensitive that some lowly State fans think Ole Miss might lose a game or two, and that we have no right to base opinions on what other SEC teams do against us, since we don't count and all. Especially since OM fans have been pencilling the Auburn game in as a W all year long. It's nervous rationalization on your part. "Sure, they put up 49 points on an SEC team, but it was just State. It doesn't count." We'll see.
Again, I don't have any illusions that we are a good football team. I was just very impressed by them.
I just can't imagin how statistically Auburn could be much more impressive. I know that isn't every, but damn. I guess they could have scored 70 in both games.
You guys were quick to point out that teams on ESPN Thursday were 3-13 or whatever, but UM is 2-11 all time @ Auburn.
I know the game is a long way off, but right now I think Auburn wins it. I wouldn't be suprised if Auburn is favored. We'll see..</p>
You guys were quick to point out that teams on ESPN Thursday were 3-13 or whatever, but UM is 2-11 all time @ Auburn.
I know the game is a long way off, but right now I think Auburn wins it. I wouldn't be suprised if Auburn is favored. We'll see..</p>
there are several sec teams that could very well beat us..just like there are several that "could' beat bamma and lsu. i think ole miss has a very good team this yr but i'm not ordering rosebowl tickets or even atl tickets yet. but to draw from this weekend's msu/aub game that they "ARE" going to beat ole miss is just well typical. i've tried to be diplomatic on this great msu board, cause i am an interloper, but the bottom line is that this yr you guys suck. you'll be lucky to win one more game, much less an sec game. mullen may do a great job and in 3-4 yrs you may win the nat'l chp. but this yr ain't it and its really even worse than that. sorry.</p>
Auburn had it easy Saturday night. They played against a one dimensional offense for the most part. Sure we can throw the ball a little better this year, but we're still a running team. On their side of the ball they are a solid running team with a big oline and some big backs, and we suck at defending the run this year.
They are very one dimensional offensive team as well. Hell Kodi Burns ran the ball 9 times and threw it once. After the 3rd time he ran who besides our moron DC couldn't see that he was going to run it himself when he was in the gun. Todd is a better thrower than Burns but he's not even as good as JPW, and AU's receivers aren't anything to write home about. Any team with a decent set of corners and safeties can throw blitzes and stack the box against them and have great defensive success.
They are very one dimensional offensive team as well. Hell Kodi Burns ran the ball 9 times and threw it once. After the 3rd time he ran who besides our moron DC couldn't see that he was going to run it himself when he was in the gun. Todd is a better thrower than Burns but he's not even as good as JPW, and AU's receivers aren't anything to write home about. Any team with a decent set of corners and safeties can throw blitzes and stack the box against them and have great defensive success.
jackobee said:
That's just typical Memphis and typical Tommy West. His team always gives a good effort against us, and then usually they follow that up with a loss or two down the line where they don't even look like they belong in 1A football.
A good example is 2003. They beat a 10 win Ole Miss team. Then they followed that up by losing to USM, UAB, and a 2 win MSU team over the next month of football. West's teams usually play up for our game, and for some reason they just completely don't show up for other games down the line.
Our season starts September 24. That's when we start to find out more about our team.
This is SEC football. Nobody needs additional motivation or personal vendetta to beat the other one.DowntownDawg said:
And as far as Malzahn being upset with Nutt, he should suck his dick. If Nutt doesn't hire him to get his tittybaby HS QB, Malzahn is still coaching high school football in the Ozarks.
And BTW...it wasn't just rebels penciling in a victory at AU, you did also.
http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/sreply/195026
...which is the reason we seem to be arguing. I am ready to pull out my eraser after Saturday. You say that Auburn running up 589 yards against us is a meaningless stat, since it's just little ol Mississippi State.
We shall see.
We shall see.
after posting that. i enjoy the sixpack board and really don't want to be an antagonist. i rarely post here, just read. but like the ole miss boards, sometimes it just gets, well, "carried away". peace.