Auburn is melting and blaming Cohen

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When Cohen gets fired he’ll be lucky to snag an assistant job at a Sun belt school which should have been his ceiling to begin with as an administrator. MSU hiring him unqualified because he’s a MSU guy was the most demoralizing we are MSU moment all-time arguably.
Croom just because bama interviewed him

panic hiring arnett after leach died without a search because our AD had just left

Rick Ray

keeping Jackie for year 3 of the meltdown

keeping Croom for year 75 of the meltdown ( I was there, my math is accurate, don’t google)
 

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Linkage? Or do I have to 17n use my imagination?
Hey champ. I'm not gonna hold your hand. You're a big boy (allegedly) so try google or visit an Auburn board. Quit whining like a child because a stranger on the internet didn't spoon feed you.
 
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Croom just because bama interviewed him

panic hiring arnett after leach died without a search because our AD had just left

Rick Ray

keeping Jackie for year 3 of the meltdown

keeping Croom for year 75 of the meltdown ( I was there, my math is accurate, don’t google)
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CROOM - dammit LT

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When Cohen gets fired he’ll be lucky to snag an assistant job at a Sun belt school which should have been his ceiling to begin with as an administrator. MSU hiring him unqualified because he’s a MSU guy was the most demoralizing we are MSU moment all-time arguably.
Watched the SEC fairly close for over 50 years and seen a lot of "head scratcher" (I.E. bad) hiires during that time but Auburn's hiring Cohen (especially at that huge salary) will always be in my top 3. I still don't have a 17ing clue what they were thinking......but I'm loving it .
 

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Croom just because bama interviewed him

panic hiring arnett after leach died without a search because our AD had just left

Rick Ray

keeping Jackie for year 3 of the meltdown

keeping Croom for year 75 of the meltdown ( I was there, my math is accurate, don’t google)

Keeping Hutzler and Turner after year 1 of the Lenny regime
 
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Watched the SEC fairly close for over 50 years and seen a lot of "head scratcher" (I.E. bad) hiires during that time but Auburn's hiring Cohen (especially at that huge salary) will always be in my top 3. I still don't have a 17ing clue what they were thinking......but I'm loving it .
They just needed someone to do Yellawoods bidding and stay out of the way. Sticking it to a fellow SEC west school was just an added bonus but the jokes on them.
 

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Croom just because bama interviewed him

panic hiring arnett after leach died without a search because our AD had just left

Rick Ray

keeping Jackie for year 3 of the meltdown

keeping Croom for year 75 of the meltdown ( I was there, my math is accurate, don’t google)
You named some bad hires but there are huge differences. This isn’t defending the hires 1 iota but:

-Croom had been a NFL OC, had interviewed for SEC HC gig, & was strategic to not get nailed by NCAA.
-Arnett was on staff and had been a DC at 2 schools. Panic hire but he had been under 2 good HCs
-Rick Ray was a longtime assistant at major programs under good HCs.

While all those hires were horrific, they pale in comparison to Cohen for AD. The guy sat in on 1 hiring process. That’s it. Never held anything in athletic administration. Zero. Not a single school in America would have hired our baseball coach to be the AD. He was so grossly unqualified it’s comical. The one and only reason he got hired was because he was a MSU guy. It would be the equivalent of me sitting in on Keenum interviewing a department head and then being the president 2 years later because I have a degree from MSU and ran a completely unrelated business. It’s an unfathomable head scratcher. Once Auburn fires him he’s done and everyone from MSU who followed him should never be allowed back including Rhett.
 
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You named some bad hires but there are huge differences. This isn’t defending the hires 1 iota but:

-Croom had been a NFL OC, had interviewed for SEC HC gig, & was strategic to not get nailed by NCAA.
-Arnett was on staff and had been a DC at 2 schools. Panic hire but he had been under 2 good HCs
-Rick Ray was a longtime assistant at major programs under good HCs.

While all those hires were horrific, they pale in comparison to Cohen for AD. The guy sat in on 1 hiring process. That’s it. Never held anything in athletic administration. Zero. Not a single school in America would have hired our baseball coach to be the AD. He was so grossly unqualified it’s comical. The one and only reason he got hired was because he was a MSU guy. It would be the equivalent of me sitting in on Keenum interviewing a department head and then being the president 2 years later because I have a degree from MSU and ran a completely unrelated business. It’s an unfathomable head scratcher. Once Auburn hired him he’s done and everyone from MSU who followed him should never be allowed back including Rhett.
One correction, I don’t think Croom was ever more than a RB coach in the NFL. Otherwise, you aren’t wrong

ETa: I was wrong. OC for the lions from 97-2000. I legit didn’t know that
 
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By the way, Hutzler found his way onto Auburn's staff. We keep just handing them our leftovers. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
You have to give them a bit of a pass since they're in the same state as UAT. Plus, they concentrate quite a bit more on academics than UAT does.
 

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You named some bad hires but there are huge differences. This isn’t defending the hires 1 iota but:

-Croom had been a NFL OC, had interviewed for SEC HC gig, & was strategic to not get nailed by NCAA.
-Arnett was on staff and had been a DC at 2 schools. Panic hire but he had been under 2 good HCs
-Rick Ray was a longtime assistant at major programs under good HCs.

While all those hires were horrific, they pale in comparison to Cohen for AD. The guy sat in on 1 hiring process. That’s it. Never held anything in athletic administration. Zero. Not a single school in America would have hired our baseball coach to be the AD. He was so grossly unqualified it’s comical. The one and only reason he got hired was because he was a MSU guy. It would be the equivalent of me sitting in on Keenum interviewing a department head and then being the president 2 years later because I have a degree from MSU and ran a completely unrelated business. It’s an unfathomable head scratcher. Once Auburn hired him he’s done and everyone from MSU who followed him should never be allowed back including Rhett.
The SEC was under pressure to make a "diverse" head coach hire at the time. And apparently MSU was offered up so we got Croom. He wasn't an NFL OC though - just a relatively minor coach.
 

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When Cohen gets fired he’ll be lucky to snag an assistant job at a Sun belt school which should have been his ceiling to begin with as an administrator. MSU hiring him unqualified because he’s a MSU guy was the most demoralizing we are MSU moment all-time arguably.
I could see Judas Cohen getting fired as the AD at the University of Auburn and somehow parlaying that into becoming Bianco’s successor at the University of Northern Mississippi.
 
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I could see Judas Cohen getting fired as the AD at the University of Auburn and somehow parlaying that into becoming Bianco’s successor at the University of Northern Mississippi.
I think he’s done coaching baseball forever. Why leave the MSU job? I think he’ll take as much as Auburn will pay him and hang it up when it’s over. He’s made a lot of money.
 

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The SEC was under pressure to make a "diverse" head coach hire at the time. And apparently MSU was offered up so we got Croom. He wasn't an NFL OC though - just a relatively minor coach.
Don’t disagree on the diversity part. And it made a lot of sense strategically for MSU to make that call because the NCAA wasn’t going to cripple the first black head coach in SEC history. I understand why all of it happened. And I don’t think anyone would argue we needed a program reset discipline wise. I’ll give Croom that. Good man but bad HC/CEO. And as someone alluded to in this thread, the joke was always he was such a bad OC he made Barry Sanders retire early.
 

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I think he’s done coaching baseball forever. Why leave the MSU job? I think he’ll take as much as Auburn will pay him and hang it up when it’s over. He’s made a lot of money.
I would assume you're right. I think he originally took a paycut to be athletic director at MSU. Can't imagine he would have done that if he wasn't already more or less set, or guaranteed to be by the end of his initial AD contract.
 
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Don’t disagree on the diversity part. And it made a lot of sense strategically for MSU to make that call because the NCAA wasn’t going to cripple the first black head coach in SEC history. I understand why all of it happened. And I don’t think anyone would argue we needed a program reset discipline wise. I’ll give Croom that. Good man but bad HC/CEO. And as someone alluded to in this thread, the joke was always he was such a bad OC he made Barry Sanders retire early.
I think deciding to hire a black headcoach was defensible from a strategic standpoint, but Lonnie Tinkle basically stopped his search at the last black coaching candidate considered by Bama. I know there weren't a ton of black coordinators to choose from at the time and probably even fewer black head coaches from G5 schools, but surely there was a better resume than "forced Barry Sanders into early retirement because of his insistence on banging square peg into round hole".
 

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I think deciding to hire a black headcoach was defensible from a strategic standpoint, but Lonnie Tinkle basically stopped his search at the last black coaching candidate considered by Bama. I know there weren't a ton of black coordinators to choose from at the time and probably even fewer black head coaches from G5 schools, but surely there was a better resume than "forced Barry Sanders into early retirement because of his insistence on banging square peg into round hole".
No doubt. And I think it’s fair to say he was a courtesy interview at Bama as a former player who had no real shot at the job. So while LT I’m sure used “he was a finalist at Bama” to sell it, he wasn't a true competitor.

And while we’re here, for the same reasons we hired him, we were scared to death to fire him. He should have been gone, lucked up the Liberty bowl year, and bought another year. We didn’t want to be viewed as not giving him a fair shake.
 
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Thread hijack, but is Barry Sanders the ultimate role model for RBs (other than getting stuck with Croom for several years I mean)?

Spent two years of college backing up THurman Thomas, which limited wear and tear. Spent his one year as starter in college having a historic college year and winning the heisman, and went pro as soon as he was eligible, making sure he was getting paid to put heavy wear and tear. Played ten years in the pros, made his money, and then left at basically his prime rather than destroying his body playing for a croomtastic team. Never got in any trouble. Put his money to work and has been basically living low key except for low commitment publicity type stuff, presumably still with plenty of money. Hell, he can probably go tons of places without even being recognized or having to deal with people asking him for photos or autographs.

I guess a lot of RBs are probably already broken down by the time they've played ten years in the pros and obviously very few have the talent to play ten years in the NFL period, but pre-NIL era, other than being stuck with a bad organization in the pros, I don't know how you'd draw it up better.
 
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Thread hijack, but is Barry Sanders the ultimate role model for RBs (other than getting stuck with Croom for several years I mean)?

Spent two years of college backing up THurman Thomas, which limited wear and tear. Spent his one year as starter in college having a historic college year and winning the heisman, and went pro as soon as he was eligible, making sure he was getting paid to put heavy wear and tear. Played ten years in the pros, made his money, and then left at basically his prime rather than destroying his body playing for a croomtastic team. Never got in any trouble. Put his money to work and has been basically living low key except for low commitment publicity type stuff, presumably still with plenty of money. Hell, he can probably go tons of places without even being recognized or having to deal with people asking him for photos or autographs.

I guess a lot of RBs are probably already broken down by the time they've played ten years in the pros and obviously very few have the talent to play ten years in the NFL period, but pre-NIL era, other than being stuck with a bad organization in the pros, I don't know how you'd draw it up better.
He's the greatest as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Cowboys fan that would anger other Cowboys fans during the early and mid-90s when I said the same thing.