Auburn mod on Kiffin

vhdawg

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What's interesting about an Auburn person throwing out Kiffin to Florida just like half the other people out there?
 
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BulldawgFan

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What's interesting about an Auburn person throwing out Kiffin to Florida just like half the other people out there?
Because it's from a Staff member on a reputable site of a team that doesn't have a dog in the hunt. I've got to think that gives it more legitimacy than anything coming from a Florida or Mississippi State message board.
 
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Because it's from a Staff member on a reputable site of a team that doesn't have a dog in the hunt. I've got to think that gives it more legitimacy than anything coming from a Florida or Mississippi State message board.
I think it's just overt speculation. Kiffin is obviously someone UF is interested in, and I suspect Stricklin has already been on the phone with Sexton. And Kiffin is probably not the only coach they discussed.
 

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Because it's from a Staff member on a reputable site of a team that doesn't have a dog in the hunt.
In other words, it's speculation from someone who doesn't really know what's going on behind the scenes. Either way, this has been a distraction in Gainesville for a while, and now it's going to be a distraction in Oxford. And that's good.
 

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the same staff member who was saying he was a done deal to Auburn when they ultimately hired freeze.
Isn't Kiffin on the record saying his daughter convinced him to stay at OM when Auburn came calling a couple years ago?

Maybe it was close to a done deal and she persuaded him.
 
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patdog

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Isn't Kiffin on the record saying his daughter convinced him to stay at OM when Auburn came calling a couple years ago?

Maybe it was close to a done deal and she persuaded him.
Or maybe it was Auburn and not Florida.
 
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Drebin

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Isn't Kiffin on the record saying his daughter convinced him to stay at OM when Auburn came calling a couple years ago?

Maybe it was close to a done deal and she persuaded him.
Maybe. Doesn't change the fact that dude reported 'done deal' and then it ended up not being one. So he doesn't have much credibility on coaching searches at other schools when he can't even get the ones at his own school correct.
 

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Kiffen is not a hot property. Ole Miss is one of the few places that would hire him. Auburn would be another one though.
 
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patdog

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Maybe. Doesn't change the fact that dude reported 'done deal' and then it ended up not being one. So he doesn't have much credibility on coaching searches at other schools when he can't even get the ones at his own school correct.
These guys know maybe 1/10 as much as they want you to think they know. And I’m giving them a lot of benefit of the doubt.
 

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I don't know who Kiffen is, but Kiffin is definitely a hot property. Your analysis was true when Ole Miss originally hired him but it's not true today.
He isn't as hot a property as you think. If he was he would already be gone.
 

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I don't know who Kiffen is, but Kiffin is definitely a hot property. Your analysis was true when Ole Miss originally hired him but it's not true today.
I would say instead he is currently "rounding the corner" but is not there yet. Showing positive signs. There is still a reason why so many people say that "Ole Miss will eventually Ole Miss this" or that "Lane will inevitably 'Kiff this up' somehow". I would also say there are still "brand concerns" with Lane Kiffin by some folks.

And for the record, I know we talk about the curse of the dead injuns but man, Ole Miss does seem to have some crazy bad luck curse that seems to happen over and over and over.
 

Drebin

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I would say instead he is currently "rounding the corner" but is not there yet. Showing positive signs. There is still a reason why so many people say that "Ole Miss will eventually Ole Miss this" or that "Lane will inevitably 'Kiff this up' somehow".

And for the record, I know we talk about the curse of the dead injuns but man, Ole Miss does seem to have some crazy bad luck curse that seems to happen over and over and over.
The thing to remember about Ole Miss is this: they like to talk about rivals, and how LSU is their real rival and all that. The reality, as I've said many times, is that karma is their real rival and it's a lopsided series. When you're morally inferior to everyone else, these things tend to happen.
 

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He isn't as hot a property as you think. If he was he would already be gone.
He’s only not gone because he hasn’t gotten an offer that is substantially better than his current gig. He currently oversees a Top 12-15 program that has largely reached that status under his direction. If he gets an offer from a Top 5-10 program, he’ll likely jump or at least think hard about it.

Auburn is not really any better of a job than OM is at this point, and the results of Auburn’s current HC at both places is ironclad proof of that.
 

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He’s only not gone because he hasn’t gotten an offer that is substantially better than his current gig. He currently oversees a Top 12-15 program that has largely reached that status under his direction. If he gets an offer from a Top 5-10 program, he’ll likely jump or at least think hard about it.

Auburn is not really any better of a job than OM is at this point, and the results of Auburn’s current HC at both places is ironclad proof of that.
Exactly. He turned Auburn down because it’s a fairly lateral move. There’s very few schools that will have a chance to hire him. 1 is open now. 1 will come open Sunday. A couple more may come open in the next 6 weeks.
 

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He’s only not gone because he hasn’t gotten an offer that is substantially better than his current gig. He currently oversees a Top 12-15 program that has largely reached that status under his direction. If he gets an offer from a Top 5-10 program, he’ll likely jump or at least think hard about it.

Auburn is not really any better of a job than OM is at this point, and the results of Auburn’s current HC at both places is ironclad proof of that.
Auburn should be a better job, and I think they are. Auburn is 50% larger than Ole Miss, and is ranked better, and is realistically better, academically. In football, they even have at least two bona fide national championships, and several others that they claim. Overall, they're a much better sports school but are having a dip at the moment. They're temporarily suffering the Freeze Effect.
 

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Kiffin might take the money in Gainesville, but his chances of making the playoffs are about as good as they will get at OM.

He only has to deal with boys who like to hang in the Grove and throw money at him now. At UF, those booster will be all up in his business.

And then there's loafers.
 
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He isn't as hot a property as you think. If he was he would already be gone.
He's making $9M a year. He is like Mullen was for us. A hot commodity but paid well enough with a enough question marks that it's going to take the right program and circumstances to leave. But Kiffin has stayed focused and I think the question marks are more or less as gone as they can be in a coaching search. Excluding 2020, he's won 10, 7, 10, and 9 games in the regular season at Ole Miss. He's probably going to win 10 this year. He hasn't had any off the field distractions that anybody knows about. Yes, he's been fortunate with his schedule, but I don't think that's going to give people much pause.

Somebody is going to pay top dollar for Kiffin. PSU and UF are both going to be dying to lock up a "sure thing", PSU because you don't spend $46M or whatever buyout to roll the dice and UF because they just paid Mcelwain $7M (which seems like a bargain now) to hire Mullen, for them to pay him $12M to hire sunbelt Billy, only to pay him ~$21M to hire somebody else. UF either has to reset and go cheap and focus on NIL or they have to go big to get the most sure thing they can. Surely they won't pay $50 again to hire a sunbelt coach.

I feel like Kiffin's worst case scenario is PSU and UF look a different direction, and he's "only" able to negotiate Ole Miss up to $10M a year. If Ole Miss can keep him another year, I still believe at some point salaries will flatline as schools try to save money for NIL. The highest paid NFL coach is paid 1/3 of the highest paid player. The tenth highest paid coach is paid about 20% of the highest paid player. I don't think NCAA coaching is going to look like that, but I don't think you'll continue to see just the head coaches salary being more than 50% of the size of the total NIL budget.
 
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Isn't Kiffin on the record saying his daughter convinced him to stay at OM when Auburn came calling a couple years ago?

Maybe it was close to a done deal and she persuaded him.
He may have lied. Coaches lie all the time.
 

johnson86-1

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Exactly. He turned Auburn down because it’s a fairly lateral move. There’s very few schools that will have a chance to hire him. 1 is open now. 1 will come open Sunday. A couple more may come open in the next 6 weeks.
Auburn is still an upgrade, but it's an upgrade to what is ultimately a second tier school, even in its own state. If he had taken the Auburn job, that would have almost certainly been the end of his climb up the coaching ladder and still would have left him somewhere with a disadvantage compared to UF, UGA, UTex, etc. And ultimately they weren't going to pay him much more money.

I don't know if that was ultimately what killed the deal, but that's why I would have advised him to decline it. He has enough money. No reason to give up on getting a truly top tier job with all the advantages available for winning a championship to go to Auburn.
 
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Auburn is still an upgrade, but it's an upgrade to what is ultimately a second tier school, even in its own state. If he had taken the Auburn job, that would have almost certainly been the end of his climb up the coaching ladder and still would have left him somewhere with a disadvantage compared to UF, UGA, UTex, etc. And ultimately they weren't going to pay him much more money.

I don't know if that was ultimately what killed the deal, but that's why I would have advised him to decline it. He has enough money. No reason to give up on getting a truly top tier job with all the advantages available for winning a championship to go to Auburn.
Exactly. It’s a slight upgrade. But you probably dead end there at a school that is well short of elite. It’s a very different world than when Pine Box left for Auburn.
 
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Give it up folks, Lame will likely only leave for a UGA/TOSU/Texas type job. Possibly LSU, but that's about it.

I seriously doubt he'd leave for the Barn or UF at this point. In Oxford, he's bigger than the program, that wouldn't be the case at the Barn or in Gainesville.
 
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He isn't as hot a property as you think. If he was he would already be gone.
This is correct ...the people who are actually putting up the money are people who actually look at results.... Kiffin has been blessed with a stretch of easy schedules.and failed to win the big games .... there is no excuse for last year...easy schedule, experienced QB, and a solid defense. What would make you think he could make the playoff if he had to play 7 ranked teams like MSU and Florida does?
 
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Isn't Kiffin on the record saying his daughter convinced him to stay at OM when Auburn came calling a couple years ago?

Maybe it was close to a done deal and she persuaded him.
Is this the same one dating an lsu player. If so that'll be interesting if lsu opens up
 

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Kiffin might take the money in Gainesville, but his chances of making the playoffs are about as good as they will get at OM.

He only has to deal with boys who like to hang in the Grove and throw money at him now. At UF, those booster will be all up in his business.

And then there's loafers.
There is also no state tax in Florida
 

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If I was him I’d be waiting on LSU to open but from some media people . They are certain he wants the Florida job badly