Augie. Welcome.

[cowbell9]

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[Todd4State]

Did he officially announce his retirement from Texas?

 

[GuyD770]

Augie is hitting 70, soon. Regardless of his 5 CWS titles, that seems too much to overlook.

Discuss...

 

[Goat Holder]

I agree. I think we should go for 40 or younger. Again, Cohen.

 

[patdog]

He's one of the 3 best coaches in the history of college baseball. Obviously, it'd be a short-term deal, but he'd get us real competitive within a couple of years and we'd be in an even better position to hire a top name coach in 2011 or so. That said, I don't think I'd pursue him very hard. But if he expressed interest, we'd be idiots to turn him down.</p>

 

[SanfordRJones]

Or, even better, in his 30's with 5 regional appearances... O'Connor.

 

[patdog]

Age shouldn't even begin to be a factor until a coach reaches 50-55. We don't need a coach for the next 30 years. We need the best coach we can get for now. Just to use Texas as an example, Mack Brown was in his late 40s when he was hired and Augie Garrido was 60. Pete Carroll was 50 when Southern Cal hired him. Hell, Jackie Sherrill was pushing 50 when we hired him, and even though it didn't end well, he did have the best decade of any MSU coach since WWII.

 

[8dog]

the older set of coaches by continuing to coach with only a fraction of the drive he previously had. And I tend to agree, I'd rather have Cohen before Garrido. Stability and hunger are great assets to the program.

 

[DerHntr]

Hell, Jackie Sherrill was pushing 50 when we hired him, and even though it didn't end well, he did have the best decade of any MSU coach since WWII.

it pains me to read the truth. and it reminds me to shed my wool come august or i will most likely be eating handfuls of tums on saturday afternoons in the fall.

 

[patdog]

But a coach in his early 50s would have plenty of time left in his career to give us plenty of stability. And anyway, if you get the right coach, stability is way overrated. How stable has the Miami football job been over the past 30 years? I'd a hell of a lot rather hire a coach who's going to leave after 5 years in which he took us to 3 super regionals and 2 CWS appearances, than one who's going to stay for 15 years but not be as successful.

 

[8dog]

our next coach will win. Of course I don't want a coach that underperforms sticking around for, let's say, 7 years.

Stability is good b/c then you don't have to go out and hire another coach in 5 years, risking it that the next one won't get it done.

And frankly, I think its instablility that has tripped up the Miami program. They kept going through coaching searches and wound up with Larry Coker.

 

[patdog]

Stability > Instability. But Winning > Stability.

As for Miami football, from 1983 to 2005 (23 years) they went 230-48 (average record of 10-2), even though they had 5 head coaches during those years. Pretty much anybody would kill for instability like that. I'm not recommending we try to hire a new coach every 4-5 years for the next two decades, but I'm a lot more concerned about hiring the best possible coach today than I am about how long he might stay at MSU.