Augustus's AAU coach now involved in this situation...

8dog

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there is nothing good about that...or AAU coaches period.

Good job by Veazey.
 

8dog

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there is nothing good about that...or AAU coaches period.

Good job by Veazey.
 

8dog

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there is nothing good about that...or AAU coaches period.

Good job by Veazey.
 

graddawg

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My thoughts exactly. You can be sure his hand is out. It's sad that the fact a player's AAU coach "isn't happy" matters at all.
 

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He has a meeting with Stansbury and I would love to know what Stansbury promises him. This is not a knock on Stansbury but what could he possibly say that is going that is going to make Kodi stay?

I think he is gone.
 

8dog

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well shockingly, where does he play AAU ball? Out of Houston.
 

MSUArrowCS

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who cares if the AAU coach is happy? I wonder what our relationship was to this coach during Kodi's recruitment, and maybe he feels entitled to something because of that?

Not to mention, every time the guy opened his mouth this year (or rather every time VZ gave him an interview), he had to hedge his statements with something like "Yeah, sometimes he slacks off, BUT".
 

BR549.sixpack

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I'm so sick of these kids that think they should get PT just because of what they did in the past. I don't know the situation between Stansbury and KA but I do know that Stansbury is the adult and coach in this situation and I trust his judgement above anyone else.

I beleive KA would be a huge additionto the team next year but what kind of precedence are we setting when you allow a player and his 17ing AAU coach to dictate your decisions on PT.
 

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Because all I read there is that the coach is sitting in Houston being "not happy". And ok... so he talked with Kodi recently. I imagine lots of folks have. What was Veazey's motive in contacting him? Is there more to his story? Or should we go all the way back to his kiddie league coaches to get their reaction?
 

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AAU coaches basically sell the right to recruit their top players, so that's why the AAU coach matters. That's just the way basketball recruiting works. Barnes never really played the game. Stans does, and so does AK fortunately. You don't want to hear anything from the AAU coach, because he's probably got his hand out.
 

OMlawdog

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a sales pitch.

In HS these kids have their *** kissed and Stans is a damn good recruiter and tells these kids what they want to hear, and then they get to MSU and he demands that they play defense and doesn't let them shoot 20 times a game.

Most players accept that fact and try and work through the system. Some players buck the system and want their shots and feel lied to and end up transferring. Kodi appears to fall in this category. Now he may have a bigger reason to transfer than most since he just didn't play this year, and when he did, he did pretty well.

If he doesn't want to play defense and just wants to be a scorer, then he should transfer to a CUSA school that he can put up 20 points a night. I don't think he becomes a better basketball player, but maybe he will be happier, who knows.
 

MSUArrowCS

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Veazey interviewed him once or twice about the Augustus situation. That was probably because he was the only one involved that was discussing it, and I'd speculate the same is true now.
 

OEMDawg

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Then Stansbury should have shown him the door last year. It's obvious in his limited minutes this year that he is a player. What point is he trying to prove by wasting 2 years of the guy's eligibility? It causes an unnecessary rift between that player and the staff and continues this cycle of detections that Stans apparently can't control.
 

BR549.sixpack

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gimme a 17ing break.

He obviously wasn't ready to play last year (1 year). He is played sparingly this year with increased minutes and production toward the end of the year (2 year). So you are saying Stansbury waisted these two years and and Kodi had nothing to do with that.

You are a dubmass.
 

captaindawg

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I owe you an apology for mocking you when you say that you don't follow recruiting. If you believe that statement then you obviously don't follow it at all.
 

8dog

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Augustus played 52 minutes and lost a year of eligibility.
 

RebelBruiser

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Yea, that was the only move Barnes ever made in recruiting, and it really wasn't involved with the AAU. He hired the high school basketball coach, and those were the only 3 quality basketball recruits he ever landed. The rest were a bunch of scrubs, which leads me to believe he didn't get too deep into the AAU game.

AK does play the game, and so we're finally starting to see some real athletes come through.
 

gtowndawg

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basketball players anymore for a reason. They are nearly impossible to deal with, and they're certainly not worth the headache. And it all started when they got pimped out by their AAU coaches.
 

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..isn't it possible that KODI wasted 2 years of Kodi's eligibility by not doing the things he was being asked to do away from actual games? Just maybe?
 

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<font face="georgia,palatino" size="2">"He doesn't know right now," Eurey told The Blog late Monday night. "I know one thing, that he's not happy. I'm not happy. His parents are not happy."

He has a stable full of enablers in his life. If Kodi was putting in the all out effort it takes to be a really good college basketball player, then he would be on the court playing a lot of minutes for MSU. It is as simple as that. If he would make that commitment right now, he could become an All-SEC type player by his senior year. He could then make money playing basketball somewhere, but right now he is not a well-rounded ballplayer and that is obvious.

The best thing his parents and AAU coach could do is tell him to put in the work and stay where he is. They could also tell him to make sure he takes advantage of the free education he is receiving, but my negative *** doubts that kind of guidance is coming from the homefront.</font></p>
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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isn't drawing up plays, teaching rebounding, teaching defensive form, teaching offensive movement, teaching defensive position and blocking-out. No. Biggest job is dealing with these prima donas and their huge over-inflated egos. Can you just imagine how tough that is? Kiss the egomaniacal's *** and the you could lose the rest of the team. Don't kiss the egomaniacal's ***, and he might go crying to his pimp AAU coach and want to transfer. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 

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and he's not invited or wanted, but he'll probably come anyway. I bet he did that kind of stuff in high school. Showed up at somebody's house when they were having the ole "Parents are OOT" beerfest. Everybody whispered "Who the hell told him where the party was this weekend." Oh well, I'm just going to ignore him like I did that douche in high school. Course that guy is somebody's boss now, but thank god not mine.
 

BR549.sixpack

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Stansbury plays Augustus last year thinking he is ready but quickly realizes he is not, therefore that explains the 52 minutes played. There could be blame put on both parties for last year, I'll give you that. Of course there has to be more to this than what we know, it just doesn't make sense that Stansbury would purposely waist a year of a talented players eligibility that could eventually help the team succeed.

i think it has all to do with kodi's attitude. You see coaches all the time in different leagues sit players because they can't play with the team as a team or they bring no work ethic to practice no matter how damn talented they are.
 

8dog

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but Rick is notorious for this. He wasted a year of Winsome's eligibility by playing him sparingly and in mostly meaningless situations. He did the same thing with Bowers.

Here are Augustus' first 5 games with minutes: 9, 7, 1, 4, 11 against.

LOUISIANA TECH
UT MARTIN
vs UC Irvine
MURRAY STATE
SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA

I guess I don't get what he saw in those games that surprised him from what he saw in practice. And if his practice habits are bad, then it makes less sense that he saw the floor.
 

DawgatAuburn

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So over the next ~25 games, Kodi played 20 minutes. That's almost as criminal as Arceto, and Croom was hung in effigy for doing it to him.
 

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DawgatAuburn said:
So over the next ~25 games, Kodi played 20 minutes. That's almost as criminal as Arceto, and Croom was hung in effigy for doing it to him.
I think there is a huge difference between 1) giving a player an opportunity to play in 5 of the first 8 games of a 30 game basketball season in order prove himself and then sitting him the rest of the year if he isn't good enough to play and 2) burning a redshirt on a player 8 games into a 12 game football season that is lost for all intents and purposes.
 

DawgatAuburn

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To me it's just as bad. If you have a player who you think is very talented like they believed Kodi was, you either decide to play him or decide to redshirt him. You don't use the first five games as a tryout to see if you are good enough to play, then stick him on the bence the rest of the year. We've now wasted two years of his eligibility, so in essence he'll amount to a JUCO player for us, contributing for only two years. I'm sorry, but that falls on the coaching staff. Cue the comments about his attitude. My answer: recruit less attitude or learn how to manage it better. Again, that's on the staff, unless we are the only team in the country who has prima donna basketball players, which I doubt.
 

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DawgatAuburn said:
We've now wasted two years of his eligibility, so in essence he'll amount to a JUCO player for us, contributing for only two years.
Well this can't be right since he was the sole reason that we won the SEC Tournament this season, or at least that's what I read somewhere.