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<blockquote data-quote="topdecktiger" data-source="post: 129305425" data-attributes="member: 1459051"><p>Sorry, your numbers are just completely wrong. You took a post from somebody on a message board and ran with it, because you like the numbers.</p><p></p><p>Let me deal with your Tier 3 statement first. You previously said this:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That was your premise, the payout from the conference. Ok, well Tier 3 deals are specific to each team. They don't come from the conference. So, the first problem is if you are comparing <u>conference payouts</u>, then individual deals don't apply to that comparison. Second, since Tier 3 deals are specific to each school, then those payouts aren't really going to change, regardless of conference affiliation. For example, NC State isn't going to all of a sudden get $10 million a year from Tier 3, even if they joined another conference. NC State's individual worth doesn't change.</p><p></p><p>Now here's your next problem. It was reported some time ago that the Big Ten projected a $45-50 million payout several years down the road. Well, what you are leaving out is that this $45 million is not just the TV contract. It's playoff money, bowl money, basketball money, etc. Everybody gets that money, so you have to factor that in for all conferences. You can't just add it in for some and not others, because it's not an accurate comparison.</p><p></p><p>The other problem is that these TV contracts all have escalator clauses. The payout increases over time. That's another reason the Big Ten payout increase over the years, because the TV contract naturally goes up. Well, you have to add that in for all conferences. Again, you can't just add it in for some to make the gap look bigger.</p><p></p><p>Edit: One other point about Tier 3. In your figures, you specifically indicated Tier 3 for some conferences, but not for others. Is Tier 3 included for the SEC and Big Ten in your figures as well? If it's not, then you didn't properly include Tier 3 yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="topdecktiger, post: 129305425, member: 1459051"] Sorry, your numbers are just completely wrong. You took a post from somebody on a message board and ran with it, because you like the numbers. Let me deal with your Tier 3 statement first. You previously said this: That was your premise, the payout from the conference. Ok, well Tier 3 deals are specific to each team. They don't come from the conference. So, the first problem is if you are comparing [U]conference payouts[/U], then individual deals don't apply to that comparison. Second, since Tier 3 deals are specific to each school, then those payouts aren't really going to change, regardless of conference affiliation. For example, NC State isn't going to all of a sudden get $10 million a year from Tier 3, even if they joined another conference. NC State's individual worth doesn't change. Now here's your next problem. It was reported some time ago that the Big Ten projected a $45-50 million payout several years down the road. Well, what you are leaving out is that this $45 million is not just the TV contract. It's playoff money, bowl money, basketball money, etc. Everybody gets that money, so you have to factor that in for all conferences. You can't just add it in for some and not others, because it's not an accurate comparison. The other problem is that these TV contracts all have escalator clauses. The payout increases over time. That's another reason the Big Ten payout increase over the years, because the TV contract naturally goes up. Well, you have to add that in for all conferences. Again, you can't just add it in for some to make the gap look bigger. Edit: One other point about Tier 3. In your figures, you specifically indicated Tier 3 for some conferences, but not for others. Is Tier 3 included for the SEC and Big Ten in your figures as well? If it's not, then you didn't properly include Tier 3 yourself. [/QUOTE]
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