GAME THREAD Backyard Brawl - WVU vs Pitt

spartansstink

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First, if this team was undefeated or had one loss right now, Bob Huggins wouldn't even be discussed. His removal, no matter why or how it was done, would be so moot that Huggins would be a memory. So, those with their feigned outrage only show their indignance over a firing is circumstantial to the record of the team at present.

Second, it is good there are those on here who can separate Bob Huggins the man from Bob Huggins the coach. Bob Huggins the man, like all of us, is flawed and makes mistakes. We also do things that hopefully improve our humaneness. As such, we are often a contradiction of terms. Bob Huggins is no idol. For a few posters on here he has become one, and when an idol gets knocked off its perch, it often crushes those who kneeled around it worshipping. We see the results on here...

That written, only Bob Huggins the coach was fired, not Bob Huggins the man. The man can still go out and do the good things he was doing before - his recent trip to Mingo, the Norma Mae foundation and fish fry, and many others too numerous to list that are not public record.

Bob Huggins the coach signed a contract. That contract had terms that both parties had to agree to follow. Bob did not live up to the terms of his contract and was removed as coach. We can try the case in the court of public opinion but ultimately that gets nowhere. It is the court of law that matters and if Bob felt the university broke said contract and any clauses he has the right to sue. The "when", "where" and "how" are irrelevant - WVU was legally correct to remove him and they chose to do so. Bob Huggins is no martyr; he isn't sacrificing himself at the altar of West Virginia University. He simply has no case and he knows it.

What does the future hold? No one knows. We were going to learn about life after Huggins after this season anyway. This is a team in transition in a season of transition. Eilert is doing the best he can with what he has but I don't feel anyone believes he is the long term solution. On paper at least, in the summer this team looked like a sure-fire Sweet 16 team. Now? Hopefully a double-digit win team. Late spring will give us a glimpse into the future - lets at least have faith we will have a coach and a team that will lay a foundation of prosperity.
 

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First, if this team was undefeated or had one loss right now, Bob Huggins wouldn't even be discussed. His removal, no matter why or how it was done, would be so moot that Huggins would be a memory. So, those with their feigned outrage only show their indignance over a firing is circumstantial to the record of the team at present.
Welcome to the world of big time college sports where schools have pro sized arenas, stadiums, and followings. Winning kind of matters or else the stadiums, arenas, and followings wouldn’t exist or barely exist.
Second, it is good there are those on here who can separate Bob Huggins the man from Bob Huggins the coach. Bob Huggins the man, like all of us, is flawed and makes mistakes. We also do things that hopefully improve our humaneness. As such, we are often a contradiction of terms. Bob Huggins is no idol. For a few posters on here he has become one, and when an idol gets knocked off its perch, it often crushes those who kneeled around it worshipping. We see the results on here...
Speak for yourself. No one here is idolizing him, some just don’t like our basketball program being torched to ground because a guy who has done countless good things for the University had a rough month. Should have suspended and moved on.

That written, only Bob Huggins the coach was fired, not Bob Huggins the man. The man can still go out and do the good things he was doing before - his recent trip to Mingo, the Norma Mae foundation and fish fry, and many others too numerous to list that are not public record.
Agreed and he probably will.

Bob Huggins the coach signed a contract. That contract had terms that both parties had to agree to follow. Bob did not live up to the terms of his contract and was removed as coach. We can try the case in the court of public opinion but ultimately that gets nowhere. It is the court of law that matters and if Bob felt the university broke said contract and any clauses he has the right to sue. The "when", "where" and "how" are irrelevant - WVU was legally correct to remove him and they chose to do so. Bob Huggins is no martyr; he isn't sacrificing himself at the altar of West Virginia University. He simply has no case and he knows it.
I am pretty sure there is nothing in the contract that says he had to be fired if he were to get a DUI while ignoring he was hired with one on his record. Huggins is on a weekly WV radio show about WVU basketball basically to lobby for his job back… so he must think he has some type of case. I don’t think he plans to challenge legally if that’s what you are getting at.
What does the future hold? No one knows. We were going to learn about life after Huggins after this season anyway. This is a team in transition in a season of transition. Eilert is doing the best he can with what he has but I don't feel anyone believes he is the long term solution. On paper at least, in the summer this team looked like a sure-fire Sweet 16 team. Now? Hopefully a double-digit win team. Late spring will give us a glimpse into the future - lets at least have faith we will have a coach and a team that will lay a foundation of prosperity.
You’re basically acknowledging we threw away a season, and crucial years for each player who stuck around for this circle jerk so that we can feel good about ourselves. “Transition” lol that is putting it nicely, the over/under of players the next coach will have to work with on day one is 0.5.
 

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Welcome to the world of big time college sports where schools have pro sized arenas, stadiums, and followings. Winning kind of matters or else the stadiums, arenas, and followings wouldn’t exist or barely exist.
Agree.
Speak for yourself. No one here is idolizing him, some just don’t like our basketball program being torched to ground because a guy who has done countless good things for the University had a rough month. Should have suspended and moved on.
Suspended for how long? Eilert takes over and we win how many? If your presumption rings true that Eilert is in over his head, we lose those games anyway, right? Plus, who is to say that our record is that much better with Huggins in charge when he is reinstated. Who is to say that someone leaves if Huggins is suspended? Lots of variables come into play.
Agreed and he probably will.

I am pretty sure there is nothing in the contract that says he had to be fired if he were to get a DUI while ignoring he was hired with one on his record. Huggins is on a weekly WV radio show about WVU basketball basically to lobby for his job back… so he must think he has some type of case. I don’t think he plans to challenge legally if that’s what you are getting at.
Trying to win in the court of pubic opinion doesn't get his job back. What he thinks or says on Hoppy's show does nothing but perhaps ruin any chance of his returning no matter how slight. We agree he has no legal case so that avenue is out.
You’re basically acknowledging we threw away a season, and crucial years for each player who stuck around for this circle jerk so that we can feel good about ourselves. “Transition” lol that is putting it nicely, the over/under of players the next coach will have to work with on day one is 0.5.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Of course, it all depends upon what coach we get. Basketball is a lot different than football with regards to the portal. Rebuilding can be done overnight with the right hire. That's why we'll have to wait until after the season to see who we can get.
 

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Bringing rape into the conversation while Huggins is literally out there making sure kids have a Christmas that they otherwise wouldn’t have had…

Besides watching our basketball team battle in close games with teams who have High School level followings, and judge people for their worst moments, what do you do on your weekends?
So you won't link it because you know you are wrong....thanks for proving me right again. So keep saying it 100 more times falsely that I compared Huggs DUI to rape....it wont make it true or you right.

What do I do on my weekends? Well...I tell you what I don't...I don't drink and drive and get DUIs where I am lucky I didnt injure or kill anyone.

Ya know....in most people's worst moments, they usually don't potentially put other people's lives at risk.

You? Other than bitching on a message board on how kids losing basketball games ruins your pathetic life....

Still waiting for that link....
 
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So you won't link it because you know you are wrong....thanks for proving me right again. So keep saying it 100 more times falsely that I compared Huggs DUI to rape....it wont make it true or you right.

What do I do on my weekends? Well...I tell you what I don't...I don't drink and drive and get DUIs where I am lucky I didnt injure or kill anyone.

Ya know....in most people's worst moments, they usually don't potentially put other people's lives at risk.

You? Other than bitching on a message board on how kids losing basketball games ruins your pathetic life....

Still waiting for that link....
lol you are such an f’n loser dude
 

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Suspended for how long? Eilert takes over and we win how many? If your presumption rings true that Eilert is in over his head, we lose those games anyway, right? Plus, who is to say that our record is that much better with Huggins in charge when he is reinstated. Who is to say that someone leaves if Huggins is suspended? Lots of variables come into play.
He should have been given a BS Bill Self suspension where he takes a backseat during the offseason and maybe doesn’t sit the bench a few OOC games but clearly still runs everything.
Trying to win in the court of pubic opinion doesn't get his job back. What he thinks or says on Hoppy's show does nothing but perhaps ruin any chance of his returning no matter how slight. We agree he has no legal case so that avenue is out.
I don’t expect him to actually get his job back. He’s gonna be 71 at the start of next season, we dont need him coming back in and trying to bring in another group of transfers or trying to convince any active enrollee that staying during this shitstorm is a good idea when without the DUI he’d be at the end anyway. It’s over, but if he wants to continue to be a positive force in the community and get his ambassador role that was once promised to him then that’s a positive IMO.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Of course, it all depends upon what coach we get. Basketball is a lot different than football with regards to the portal. Rebuilding can be done overnight with the right hire. That's why we'll have to wait until after the season to see who we can get.
It is different but there is usually some type of foundation to go off of. We are going to have to bring in 13 strangers, maybe if we hire a HC from a lower level a few players follow him, but check out how long it took Cincy to rebuild after him, or Pitt after Dixon… we’re going to be in for a rough ride unless our spin on the unknown coach roulette wheel comes up positive (for Cincy, it did and it still took Cronin 4 seasons to get to the tournament).
 
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