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tossedoff

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Bad Dawgs @ The Reflector

Note Sat., Nov. 1 at 1:19pm, 2:49pm, 5:47pm and non-timed incident

Note Sun., Nov. 2 at 9:36am

Backstories needed. Enter yours.

[Fixed your link. -VH]

Edit...Gracias VH. A little Spanish lingo.
 

tossedoff

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Bad Dawgs @ The Reflector

Note Sat., Nov. 1 at 1:19pm, 2:49pm, 5:47pm and non-timed incident

Note Sun., Nov. 2 at 9:36am

Backstories needed. Enter yours.

[Fixed your link. -VH]

Edit...Gracias VH. A little Spanish lingo.
 

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• 1:19 p.m. A student reported throwing up at the MSU football game. The student said he didn't need to be checked out by the paramedics.
Nice...

• 5:47 p.m. A visitor reported his golf cart being stolen at Davis Wade Stadium. The golf cart was later located between George Hall and Magruder Hall
Has anyone questioned Croom?
• 4:52 a.m. MSU Police were dispatched to Stone Boulevard for a bike being in the flower bed
Dude, if somebody woke my *** up at 4:52 AM and dragged me outside because of a <17>ing bike in a flowerbed, I'd probably shoot someone
• 4:10 a.m. A student reported she believed someone shot at her at Hathorn Hall
This was probably the chick the woke the campus cops up for the bike
 

ShrubDog

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Shouldn't they call campus landscape.........

• 4:52 a.m. MSU Police were dispatched to Stone Boulevard for a bike being in the flower bed.
 

Jackdragbean

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to say that the student and the visitor that were reported throwing up at Davis Wade were not the only ones. After watching that crap, I'm sure half the people present were sick.
 

MSUCE99

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Saturday, Nov. 1

• 4:10 a.m. A student reported she believed someone shot at her at Hathorn Hall.

• 1:19 p.m. A student reported throwing up at the MSU football game. The student said he didn't need to be checked out by the paramedics. After further investigation, the student was not found to be inebriated. The episode was apparently the result of sustained exposure to the MSU offense.

• 2:42 p.m. An employee reported an electronic tool being stolen from his service vehicle. He said the last time he saw it was at Butler Hall.

• 2:49 p.m. A visitor reported throwing up at Davis Wade Stadium. Apparently, Kentucky fans are not immune to the effects of the MSU offense either.

• 2:58 p.m. An employee reported a fire at North Farm.

• 5:47 p.m. A visitor reported his golf cart being stolen at Davis Wade Stadium. The golf cart was later located between George Hall and Magruder Hall. The perpetrators would have gotten cleanly away with the golf cart, but for a few execution problems on the part of the accomplices. But HEY, if the <span style="text-decoration:underline">diversion</span> would have kept the police occupied for another hour and forty-five minutes, it would've all been good.

• A student was issued a student referral for throwing a football in the direction of the cheerleaders at Davis Wade Stadium. The student was ejected from the game. The cheerleader who caught the pass is now being recruited as a walk-on. According to Croom, "We think we have a chance here with a real breakaway threat. She can bring us some home-run ability to the offense."
 

cowbell9

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sumbitch called me at my tailgate accusing me of playing a prank on him. Until the cops found it, he was certain that it was me. Even at Hobieween, he was after me about it. Funny as hell.
 

stevo1a

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Ahhhh, to be in college and clueless again.

</p> <h2>Attendance for UK was horrid</h2> <h3>The Sports Desk</h3> <h4>Brandon Wright</h4> <div id="meta"> Issue date: 11/4/08 Section: Sports </div> <div class="goner" id="cp_article_top"> <ul id="cp_article_top_left"> [*]Print [*] Email [*] Article Tools [/list] <ul id="cp_article_top_right"> [*] <div> Page 1 of 1 </div> [/list] <div class="cp_article_clear"></div> </div> <div id="cp_story_text">

After the Kentucky game, Bulldog fans should be ashamed. I'm certainly embarrassed.</p>

I don't mean because the team is 3-6 (1-4), or that it lost to a depleted Kentucky team at home. I don't mean because State's field goal unit didn't show up on Saturday, either.</p>

No, State fans should be ashamed because they only put 40,168 butts in the seats on Saturday. That's a whopping 72 percent of the stadium's capacity, for a crucial game.</p>

We're talking about a game in which State was favored by three points against a conference opponent. A game the Dawgs desperately needed to win to cling to slim hopes of playing in a bowl game.</p>

What makes the abysmal attendance figure even worse is the fact that conditions were absolutely ideal this weekend. The weather was perfect and there were extra factors surrounding the game.</p>

I'm not sure how many of you noticed, but there was a new addition to the football stadium unveiled Saturday. Is a brand new $6 million HD video board not worth going to a football game to see? I feel certain that the party that signed the check for it thought it was.</p>

Also, the baseball and basketball teams were in action this weekend, albeit not playing actual games. That should have been extra incentive for folks that might not have made the trip otherwise.</p>

I of course realize that MSU has not performed very well this year. The Bulldogs haven't lived up to their billing this season. I know that attendance suffers when the team isn't winning. Fans from other parts of the state don't want to spend the time and, more importantly, money required to travel to see a struggling football team.</p>

Yet, it sickens me to think that people have stopped coming just because the team is struggling. That practice is deplorable in general, not to mention the fact that our team is light-years ahead of where it was five years ago.</p>

The curse of the fair-weather fan is no small reason why State is bringing up the rear in SEC athletic budgets.</p>

Look at schools like Alabama. Alabama is a school we all love to hate, but there's no doubt that its fans support its football team. The last time Bryant-Denny didn't sell out for a home game? 1988. That's right, even when UA went 3-8 in 2000 and 4-9 in 2003, the school sold every ticket to every home game. That's with the highest ticket prices in college football.</p>

For an example from this year, look to Tennessee. Make no mistake, the Volunteers are struggling. Tennessee has the same overall and conference record as our own Bulldogs, with a harder schedule and much, much higher program expectations. I read an article a few weeks ago chastising UT fans for not showing up due to the team's lack of success. UT's average attendance? A scant 101,651 fans. That's out of a possible 106,000, or 95 percent.</p>

I know MSU is not Tennessee or Alabama. I'm not expecting 100,000 plus at every game. However, is half of that too much to ask? Should we not shoot for similar percentages of stadium capacity?</p>

What degree of success must State maintain to keep the bandwagon fans in the seats?</p> </div>
 

Stormrider81

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1. "The curse of the fair-weather fan is no small reason why State is bringing up the rear in SEC athletic budgets."

State does not have fair weather fans. If we did, they would ahve long ago hit the road. If you claim to be a MSU fan then you mean it. Most likely you have strong ties to the school, such as being an alumn or having family ties.

2. Right after mentioning the "curse of the fair weather fan" and how it is impairing State, he uses Bama as his example of die hard fans showing up regardless of how the team performs. This made me laugh considering Bama is well known for having a large contigent of fair weather fans. I'm sure people in that state are seeing more Bama fans this season than at any time this decade. It's also funny to me since Bama doesn't let their team get very bad before a change is made at the top. They don't just show up regardless of how the team is doing, they demand results or the head coach is run out of town. I'm not so sure this guy would want to endorse the long time Bama tradition of filling up the head coach's yard with for sale signs when things get choppy.
 

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Yet, it sickens me to think that people have stopped coming just because the team is struggling. That practice is deplorable in general, not to mention the fact that our team is light-years ahead of where it was five years ago.

It must be a phenomenon to be light years ahead yet at the same time having the same record and almost identical stats. I've got news for the newspaper. We are just as ****** as 2003.

Look at schools like Alabama. Alabama is a school we all love to hate, but there's no doubt that its fans support its football team. The last time Bryant-Denny didn't sell out for a home game? 1988. That's right, even when UA went 3-8 in 2000 and 4-9 in 2003, the school sold every ticket to every home game. That's with the highest ticket prices in college football.

For an example from this year, look to Tennessee. Make no mistake, the Volunteers are struggling. Tennessee has the same overall and conference record as our own Bulldogs, with a harder schedule and much, much higher program expectations. I read an article a few weeks ago chastising UT fans for not showing up due to the team's lack of success. UT's average attendance? A scant 101,651 fans. That's out of a possible 106,000, or 95 percent.

Bama has just recently had actual attended sell-outs again. They did that by (a) hiring Saban and (b) winning games.

UT just recently had a sub 85,000 game (actual attendance).

Bama and UT are also bad for comparison as they both are located in much heavier populated areas.

I can say that if Starkville was in my backyard I would go to every game. I will not, however, drive 4 hours one way for a **** sandwich.

I love how the fans are held more accountable than the coaches.
 

Stormrider81

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"I love how the fans are held more accountable than the coaches."

I agree. The fans are the ones supporting this program. The fans are the ones that keep coming back despite having one bowl appearance since Decemeber 31, 2000. The ones to attack are not the fans.

Let me also state this, the students have a warped view of this. As you stated, they live right there on campus, in Starkville, or in the surrounding area. I drive 2 hours one way and know people that drive at least twice that just to see us lose games we would win with mediocre coaching. Also, the students pay, what, $3 a game and they don't have to make contributions to get quality seats. When this guy gets out of college, moves a few hours away from Vegas, pays $200 per season ticket plus BC donation, and then goes through the effort to driving to campus and spending money on gas and food, then he can come complain to be about attendance. Until then, shut up and enjoy college life.
 

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our team is light-years ahead of where it was five years ago.
then, apparently we entered a wormhole the size of Croom's *** and have re-emerged at the same damn place we started.
 

Todd4State

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it's HOW we're losing. There are at least two games- La Tech and Auburn that were lost in large part because of coaches making horrible coaching decisons that are NOT acceptable for a coach at the SEC level. Then he goes and throws his free safety under the bus. I mean seriously? When was the last time a FS could be blamed for a loss?

Our offense is boring and we NEVER seem to have any rhythm except for the first 15 plays. Our OC is the OC only because he is friends with Croom and not because he is qualified. We are missing out on good players because he doesn't know how to recruit and then they go to some other school and come back and kick our ***. For God's sake, we're not even recruiting in Jackson- the largest city in the state. It's totally ridiculous and unacceptable, especially coming off of a 8-5 season.

But I guess when you live in Starkville, I guess your wool is thick and then you graduate and get sheared. It was that way for me, except I had a legit reason- we won 10 games my senior year.
 

dickiedawg

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Five years ago was 2003- also known as Jackie's last season. If you can't or won't see that we are leaps and bounds ahead of where we were then, you simply weren't paying attention.
In 2003, the Bulldogs won a whopping 2 games, against Vanderbilt and Memphis. The thing about that season wasn't simply that we lost -- we were used to losing by that point -- it was how we did it. We lost the final five games of that season by a combined 210 points. That's over 40 points per game!
This year, we've only lost two games by more than ten points. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not remotely happy with the way this season has gone. However, there's not a rational person on the planet that would trade this year for 2003.

You all have a short memory. 2003 was nothing short of absolute football hell for MSU fans, and while we may be heading in that direction, we're nowhere close to that bad. I know you all get carried away bitching about how bad we are, but in reality we are nowhere %@+%##* close to as bad as we've been.
 

saltybulldog

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In 2003, the Bulldogs won a whopping 2 games, against Vanderbilt and Memphis.

In 2008, we have won a whopping 3 games, against Vandy, MTSU(memphis), and a DII school.

The thing about that season wasn't simply that we lost -- we were used to losing by that point -- it was how we did it. We lost the final five games of that season by a combined 210 points. That's over 40 points per game!

First, you must be majoring in math. Second, a loss is a loss is a loss. I dont give a **** about the margin. Just like last year when people were bitching that we were barely winning. Who gives a ****. We won.

This year, we've only lost two games by more than ten points. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not remotely happy with the way this season has gone. <span style="text-decoration:underline">However, there's not a rational person on the planet that would trade this year for 2003.</span>

Of course no one would trade this year for that year. Thats like trading a dead dog for a dead cat. WTF??

You all have a short memory. 2003 was nothing short of absolute football hell for MSU fans, and while we may be heading in that direction, we're nowhere close to that bad. I know you all get carried away bitching about how bad we are, but in reality we are nowhere %@+%##* close to as bad as we've been.

This is by far my favorite quote of the bunch. So, we may not be in hell but we are heading back there. We arent as bad as we have been, so being just plain bad is apparently not grounds for complaining. Like DS says, sometimes I hate MSU fans more than any other fans on other.

ETA: I am getting fired up now. In my mind I should be more pissed than in 2003. In 2003 we knew we were about to make a change. Hell, we were going through the lists of who our next coach might be. We were only 3 years deep into football hell and thought we might be back in the thick of things the next year. In 2008, we have been through 7 years of football hell, with a one year hiatus. We have a coach that makes dumb decision after dumb decision and backs it up with dumb statements. We gave that coach a raise/contract extension and are now stuck with him for at least one more season. Meanwhile, every other school in the SEC is on an upswing.
 

dickiedawg

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Hell, I'm pissed. We suck. But to call the author an "asshat" for suggesting that we are better than we were in 2003, well, that just makes you look like a dumbass. Edit: It wasn't you that used the term asshat. The point remains.
 

saltybulldog

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I didnt call him an asshat. And whether or not calling him an asshat makes someone look a dumbass is a matter of opinion.

I tend to agree with him being something of an asshat. I think the author may be a bit out of touch with reality here. He is mad at the fans for not showing up when it is the coaches fault for producing a ****** product. Also, I dont think the author is using 2003 as the measuring stick...i think that is coming from someone else.
 

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I was at Bryant-Denny in 1997 when we spanked their asses. If that place was full, I'll kiss every cow in Texas. And I'll guarantee at least 10K of the at best 60K in the stadium that day had on maroon.
 

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• 5:47 p.m. A visitor reported his golf cart being stolen at Davis Wade Stadium. The golf cart was later located between George Hall and Magruder Hall.

--well hell the last time i was down there 2 years ago for the Arkansas game, a few friends left the game, stole a cart, and drove it over to The Grill to watch the Michigan-OSU game.
a few hours later, 2 cop cars pulled up to the parking lot next to where our RV was parked because thats where the golf cart was ditched. some MSU employee jumped out of a car and was elated to find the cart in one piece.
dumbass friends were too drunk to even realize the severity of what they'd done.

good times.</p>
 

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start of the game. And when JJ broke down that last run there were more MSU fans left than BAMA fans
 

Stormrider81

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It's blaming the fans for not showing up. Again, as a student you have no perspective on this and should thus keep your mouth shut. Once you get out of school, get a job, get married, have kids, have to drive multiple hours one way just to get to Starkville, pay $200 for season tickets plus BC donation, spend money on gas, food, and lodging, and do it all over again the next weekend then get back to me. All a student has to do is roll out of bed, walk or drive a few minutes to campus, go to a game he/she payed $3 to enter, and then walk or drive a few minutes back home. What else would they do that day anyway? College students don't have much perspective on anything.
 

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he said "light-years ahead". There is a massive difference. If you think we are "light-years ahead" of 2003, you need to wake the hell up. Are we "better"? Yeah, marginally. We are losing by a smaller margin. Hey douchenozzle - we are STILL LOSING.
 

Todd4State

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on is knowing what it's like to succeed. OK, yeah, last year was great but other than that, the current students we have now are not used to us winning in football and they probably have forgotten that we were CONSISTENTLY good year in and year out, albeit for a short period, but still we know it can be done.

There is no rational excuse for promoting mediocrity or in this case, unacceptable results.

This isn't about supporting the team, ultimately it's about having the vision that MSU can succeed in football. I really think that we have a lot of the ingredients to be very successful, even in the SEC, but it's going to take someone with vision to make that happen. We had a LOT of fans at the Liberty Bowl that hadn't been to a game in years, and this was in a year were we sold out a lot of our games at home. There are a lot of untapped resources that we need to get to Starkville, but playing crappy football isn't going to get anyone in the seats anywhere.