Bama-Clempson question...

Coach34

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Clempson gave up over 30 sacks last year on offense and lost 4 OL starters...does anybody else here think Sabear will have them schemed pretty well with 6 months to get ready? Hell, Clempson allowed 11 sacks in the Spring Game...
 

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Bama has no DL, no LB's and 1 DB worth a crap. Saban better have Deep Blue on his side in order to scheme with so little talent.

As for Clemson, their weaknesses are at OL and LB. And the OL is more experienced than losing four starters would indicate. Three of the replacements saw significant snaps and starts last year. </p>
 

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returning on defense, so its not like they were just ravaged by graduation. And I dont care how much experience Clemson's backups got, 30+ sacks are alot to give up, not to mention 11 in a damn Spring Game.
Bama has a pretty good offense even with Sarah Jessica leading it. Giving Saban 6 months to get ready may spell doom for Clemson
 

patdog

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Clemson looks a little better than they really are because the ACC has been way down the last few years. Their last 2 games they barely beat South Carolina and lost to Auburn.
 

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close game. They have 2 good RBs back with an experienced QB. Their D is probably good enough to beat Bama. I'm not really committed either way. I certainly would like Bama to start out with a loss.
 

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Arrests/Suspensions (including Johns who was supposed to help at LB), injuries (two other starting LB's possibly out for good). Bama doesn't have the talent and depth to withstand that. And unless Julio Jones is the second coming, Sarah Jessica doesn't have much in the way of receivers.

Clemson's DL/DB's are stacked. If you are going to use the Spring Game (touching of qb is a sack) as evidence, you might want to check the shitload of points put up by Clemson's offense as well. Clemson's two deep at QB > SEC West QB's.....not to mention the stacked receiving corps and RB's.

The only thing that keeps this close is Tommy Bowden.
 

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a good WR in Aaron Kelly who had over 1,000 yards last year. I think they will be playing in the ACC championship game because they have two many weapons on offense. They may have a weak OL but they also avg. over 400 yards per game last year. Any day Bama loses is good day for me. Ole Miss and Bama are two sec teams I can never cheer for.
 

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Great QB, best RB duo in the country, good receivers, nasty NASTY D... Yes, the O-line is a little shaky, aside from their center (one of the best in the ACC).. but three guys return with considerable experience and Bama isn't that great up front on the defensive side.

If 11 sacks in Clemson's spring game is any indication of how things might go in the opener, I think it has more to do with John Parker Wilson's well being than it does with Cullen Harper's. Clemson's only vulnerability on D is the LB's, but it's minor when you consider their line and secondary. Unless things have drastically changed in Tuscaloosa, I'm not giving the Tide a chance. But it should still be a fun game to watch.
 

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you're WAY too high on Clemson. If they're so damn great, why did they lose to a mediocre Auburn team and barely beat an average at best South Carolina team? And this was WITH the 4 starters on OL that are gone. There's a reason the ACC has sucked in bowl games lately. And Clemson's a part of that reason (2 straight bowl losses to SEC teams).
 

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as I am not sold on Bama. I'm not saying Clemson is better than the SEC's best, or that they'll compete for a national title. But on paper they are way better than Alabama. And until they get on the turf, that's all we have to go by. Four starters lost on the line (some sources say only three), but they bring back a center with All-ACC talent and two other linemen who saw a lot of action last year. As with any school, it's all about who you return and replace with, not who you lose. Clemson is on the verge of being a team that simply reloads like most powerhouses.

And it's not hard to like a team that returns 15 starters. They were close to being relevant on a national scale last year, and this year I think they'll be even closer, and BCS ready. They retained almost every bit of offensive production they had last year and practically everyone on defense that saw action, with the exception of three guys. I'm not sold, nor do I have any reason to be sold on Tommy Bowden as a great head coach (other than his name), but it'll take a massive **** job to screw up a 10-win season for the Tigers this year. They don't even have to play Va Tech...at least not in the regular season.
 

patdog

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I'm not saying Clemson is better than the SEC's best
In the past two years, Clemson hasn't even been better than the SEC's mediocre.
<span class="post-title"><span class="post-title">I'm not so high on Clemson</span></span>
Clemson is on the verge of being a team that simply reloads like most powerhouses.
Make up your mind. Are you high on them or not?
it'll take a massive **** job to screw up a 10-win season for the Tigers this year.
I've heard that about several of Tommy Boy's Clemson teams over the years. But yet, Clemson hasn't won 10 games in a season since 1990.
 

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mid-level #5 to #7 team in SEC. I think they are better than Bama, but not much better. They could make a jump this year but they would need to play in the ACC Championship. That would still mean they are less than UGa, LSU, Aub, UF and probably UT. They still beat S.C more than they lose to them. I'm not a fan of either team in any way...I just think Clemson should have the edge this year and could move up this year. Bowden will be gone if they win 7 or less. If Bama wins a SEC beats ACC....If Bama loses, well Bama loses.
 

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whose brother in law played on Danny Ford's national title team, is that if Clemson doesn't at least make the ACC title game, Tommy Boy is gone. This word is from the brother in law. Take it for what it's worth.
 

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Tommy leveraged the Ark job (along with everyone else) into a sizeable raise and a four year extension and a big buyout. IPTAY has so much debt with the ill conceived expansion, a buyout would be difficult. With the way TB is recruiting, he could eventually win in spite of himself. Kinda like daddy.
 

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On SC radio, most fans calling in didn't really care if he left or not (the only ones who supported him mentioned that he was a good christian man). Clemson did not have to get blackmailed and chances are they could have gotten a better hc w/ the money they have available. Bowden is tearing it up recruiting though.
 

patdog

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rebelrouseri said:
(the only ones who supported him mentioned that he was a good christian man
A good Christian man with a good Christian daughter. (I know, that was a low blow)