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Well, he is having surgery Thanksgiving week, so I would assume that it is injury related, so I think you guys can quit all the speculation.
 

KyCatFan1

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I tried physical therapy and also spinal blocks before the first surgery. Neither helped at all and was forced to have a discectomy. It took probably 3 months just to get to the point of surgery. Then another 6 weeks until i was released to go back to work. So if Barker has a similar problem, I could see it taking a number of months before realizing how much of a problem it is for him.

Sounds like I was right. I am betting he wasn't getting enough relief from physical therapy or spinal blocks and they are electing for the surgery as a last resort. The question now is does he have a ruptured disk that can be cleaned up and healed in 6 weeks and start rehabbing in about the middle of January? I believe he can be ready for Spring practice after that. Hopefully it doesn't require a fusion which would probably take at least 4 to 6 months before he is healed up before working on getting back into game shape. That would keep him out of Spring practice and put him behind going into the Summer.
 

shutzhund

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As many have said I believe Barrker will not transfer nor will he play again for UK or any other team.

Backs are a curse whether you play football or just walk around.
 

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catscratchfever3215 said:
Would you want the coaches to take a one year rental in a graduate transfer if it gives us the best opportunity to win?

Absolutely. I'd take a graduate transfer even if I thought he would only compete for the starting job.
 
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Staff needs to try and get some sort of medical RS for DB.

He needs to really focus on rehabbing and after that training to get back to SEC football shape. Trying to rush him back would be reckless.

Maybe, if all goes well, DB can be in the picture for 2018.

Barring disaster, we have solid QB for 2017. An off season of getting the lion's share of reps, working on some things he needs to improve, strengthening his relationship with the team, and gaining confidence could really make for something special.

SJ can play ball he has the raw ability and potential to develop into an productive QB. He's still relatively new to the program and to SEC big boy football.
 

cardkilla_rivals379685

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Whats funny is that you can completely make up a rumor about Wills telling stoops its 60-40 UK........ no one would have a problem with it because they would like that rumor. But tell a rumor you've heard that people dont like and BOOOOOOOOOO... its false... completely made up to hurt people etc etc etc.. When in fact a rumor is called a rumor and not fact for a reason.
well don't you look like a dumbass now. Hate fans like you.

Season ending back surgery, not your bull crap. Should be banned!
 

LadyCaytIL

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well don't you look like a dumbass now. Hate fans like you.

Season ending back surgery, not your bull crap. Should be banned!

Its what I heard. I'm not sorry for posting a guess that he might not be back at UK based on what I heard. Stop being a douche bag. I never said he did anything to get kicked off the team or anything. Matter of fact what I heard... I didnt even specify... which was just arguments and him lashing out over how the first 2 games went.

Glad this is a salem witch hunt for you. This rumor was maybe 1/10000000000000th of the severity of the Stoops one......... but yeah lump me into that category you *** hat. Eff you Card Killa

I expected him to have back surgery even it its minor. NOTICE how I said I heard his back was bothering him by the 1 part back comment???? Its the only way the NCAA might even grant him a 6th year.
 
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Oldtrainer_rivals

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Prayers for Drew. Been there and done that with lower lumbar surgery and that coupled with recovery (it's a son of a buck!) Drew has youth and determination and that's a very good!
 

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its 5 parts dog house and 1 part back. Thats all I'm going to say

Here we go again. You do know you can't believe everything you read on the internet, right? The problem is someone like you reads a rumor and then you run to the internet to post it in every thread on the site and by the end of the day you have people thinking it as fact rather than rumor. I figured you would have figured internet rumors will end you making you look like a total fool. The Stoops rumor was obviously made up and full of bs. Don't worry, though. If you keep this up, you might trick a few people into thinking you know what you're talking about by the end of the week. Some people can't accept they can't be in the know on most Kentucky football related information and will believe any random person online when they pretend to be in the know on football items. Just accept that when it's time for us fans to know information, the people involved will let us know. Until then, stop spreading false rumors.
 
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shutzhund

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Just an educated guess but I don't believe we'll see him playing SEC football again. It would be a huge mountain to climb with a bad back and all back surgery is very "iffy" no matter who performs the surgery.
 
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Mr Schwump

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Just an educated guess but I don't believe we'll see him playing SEC football again. It would be a huge mountain to climb with a bad back and all back surgery is very "iffy" no matter who performs the surgery.

Totally agree, I think we'll all be better off to assume he's done. His future is what's important. It's more important 10 years from now for him to be able to pick up any possible children than to pick up a football.

Meanwhile, it's just rotten luck for Barker and UK football that this injury occurred.
 

cardkilla_rivals379685

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Its what I heard. I'm not sorry for posting a guess that he might not be back at UK based on what I heard. Stop being a douche bag. I never said he did anything to get kicked off the team or anything. Matter of fact what I heard... I didnt even specify... which was just arguments and him lashing out over how the first 2 games went.

Glad this is a salem witch hunt for you. This rumor was maybe 1/10000000000000th of the severity of the Stoops one......... but yeah lump me into that category you *** hat. Eff you Card Killa

I expected him to have back surgery even it its minor. NOTICE how I said I heard his back was bothering him by the 1 part back comment???? Its the only way the NCAA might even grant him a 6th year.
Sorry not sorry. You acted like he was a headcase faking an injury. Not only was he pivotable in keeping his class together, but he's been nothing but a hard worker since his incidents his freshmen year.

I have no pity for people who post FALSE rumors that hurt our program, like the disgusting rumors about Stoops before the SC game. So you didn't post any of the rumors about Stoops? I don't know if you did, just asking if you were?
 
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Levibooty

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I'm not sure anybody actually knows what issue Barker is having but I do know the most important aspect of treating a back injury or condition is an accurate diagnosis. That normally takes time which is what seems to be going on with Barker. I will say this I had arthroscopic surgery on my back and was just about healed and definitely relieved from the moment I was released from the hospital one day after the surgery.
When I went back to my doctor a week later he got very upset with me when he learned two days before I had shoveled 5 tons of dirt off my driveway and into my yard. He then measured and discovered I had a 22 neck size and size 2 hatband.
 

MountainDoc

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The interesting thing is a disc bulge or herniation is not a "freak injury." I see these conditions daily. A surgery for a small disc herniation may be as simple as a microdiscectomy which is a tiny incision to something much much worse with hardware and as mentioned previously fusion. I find the whole situation to be odd. Rehabilitation wouldve been the first route given his age and likely relative health of the disc. However, the hush hush nature of the injury is strange. If a guy tears an ACL or Mensicus an announcement is typically made immediately after the MRI. This case has been very different. Possibly, the reason for the lack of clarity from Stoops and UK has been to keep teams wondering if Barker will return? Obviously, at this point it is clear he will not this season so the announcement of surgery.
 

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Staff needs to try and get some sort of medical RS for DB.

He needs to really focus on rehabbing and after that training to get back to SEC football shape. Trying to rush him back would be reckless.

Maybe, if all goes well, DB can be in the picture for 2018.

Barring disaster, we have solid QB for 2017. An off season of getting the lion's share of reps, working on some things he needs to improve, strengthening his relationship with the team, and gaining confidence could really make for something special.

SJ can play ball he has the raw ability and potential to develop into an productive QB. He's still relatively new to the program and to SEC big boy football.
You can't apply for a medical RS until the player has exhausted their eligibility which for Drew is still 2 years away. How well he recovers will probably go a long way in determining what path he takes.
 

Los Gatos

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You can't apply for a medical RS until the player has exhausted their eligibility which for Drew is still 2 years away. How well he recovers will probably go a long way in determining what path he takes.

In addition he would need a waiver of the five to play four rule. Under current NCAA guidelines he would not qualify for such a waiver.
 

fuzz77

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In addition he would need a waiver of the five to play four rule. Under current NCAA guidelines he would not qualify for such a waiver.
Below are the requirements...as I see it Drew meets all of the requirements.

Medical Hardship Requirements
To be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete has to meet the following criteria:

  • The student-athlete must suffer the injury during one of their four seasons of college competition or during the senior year of high school.
  • The injury must be incapacitating. That means it must be a season-ending injury.
  • The injury must occur prior to the start of the second half of the season.
  • The student-athlete must not have competed in more than 30% of the season or three contests, whichever is greater.
 

Los Gatos

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Below are the requirements...as I see it Drew meets all of the requirements.

Medical Hardship Requirements
To be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete has to meet the following criteria:

  • The student-athlete must suffer the injury during one of their four seasons of college competition or during the senior year of high school.
  • The injury must be incapacitating. That means it must be a season-ending injury.
  • The injury must occur prior to the start of the second half of the season.
  • The student-athlete must not have competed in more than 30% of the season or three contests, whichever is greater.

You have listed the requirement for a medical redshirt. That's not the problem, the problem is that he also needs a waiver of the five to play four rule. Under current NCAA guidelines, he would have to miss two seasons for "reasons beyond the players control". He took a normal redshirt his first year, that is not considered beyond the players control.
 

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You have listed the requirement for a medical redshirt. That's not the problem, the problem is that he also needs a waiver of the five to play four rule. Under current NCAA guidelines, he would have to miss two seasons for "reasons beyond the players control". He took a normal redshirt his first year, that is not considered beyond the players control.

What is an example of a player receiving a medical redshirt, if you do not think Barker qualifies?
 

Los Gatos

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What is an example of a player receiving a medical redshirt, if you do not think Barker qualifies?

Come on guys, read my post. I do think he would qualify for a medical redshirt. I do not think we would receive a waiver of the five to play four rule. Two different rules. He would not only need to receive a medical redshirt but he also needs a waiver of the five to play four rule.

Again, two different rules. Qualifying for a medical redshirt does not give him a waiver of the five to play four rule.
 

jauk11

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Political pollsters have weighed in on Barker issue. Polls are showing 60/40 that Barker never suits up again for U.K. (Poking a little fun at pollsters and not the candidates ;-)

How did they do in the Presidential election?
 

jauk11

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I'll always believe he got screwed being kept out of the Bowl game... Team got screwed also.....
That situation still has a smell about it........... Should have been dealt with in a different way...

i still think joker lost some of the team by throwing them all under the bus. Look at what the competition does.
 

jauk11

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I'm not sure anybody actually knows what issue Barker is having but I do know the most important aspect of treating a back injury or condition is an accurate diagnosis. That normally takes time which is what seems to be going on with Barker. I will say this I had arthroscopic surgery on my back and was just about healed and definitely relieved from the moment I was released from the hospital one day after the surgery.
When I went back to my doctor a week later he got very upset with me when he learned two days before I had shoveled 5 tons of dirt off my driveway and into my yard. He then measured and discovered I had a 22 neck size and size 2 hatband.

If you let your hair grow out and make it frizzy it will help your hat band problem.
 

Shydog

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He was going to transfer the moment he road out on that cart...
says the guy on the internet that insinuated the guy was never really injured to start with! I am confidant that you don't know Drew Barker nor any of his family and you have not talked to any of the coaches about the young man. That doesn't prevent you from getting on your computer and acting as if you know what he is thinking. Truth is this,, you have no clue!
 

Gary4UK

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says the guy on the internet that insinuated the guy was never really injured to start with! I am confidant that you don't know Drew Barker nor any of his family and you have not talked to any of the coaches about the young man. That doesn't prevent you from getting on your computer and acting as if you know what he is thinking. Truth is this,, you have no clue!
 

Gary4UK

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Wrong! As Trump says... I said the back is tricky thing... It was only my opinion on how bad he was, but I also said that he could have a back problem... It is just my opinion that he didn't want the heat any longer...