Baseball America has Ark. State as Under the Radar Team This Week

Hanmudog

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Maybe if he had done a better job at recruiting at MSU people would not have been shitting bricks at the prospect of him continuing on for Polk.
 

RobbieRandolph

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When I got here, we made it a higher priority to recruit players who could compete at the Sun Belt level or above and wanted to be at ASU

I think I may be a Sun belt level player, but I'm not sure.
 

OMlawdog

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Im pretty sure he had opportunities, but it is my understanding that Polk told him repeatedly that he was going to take over when he stepped down, and if you are Raffo why wouldn't you believe him. I think most coaches in the same position would.<div>
</div><div>After the 2007 CWS run, do you really think Raffo was worried about Polk not being able to pick his successor? </div><div>
</div><div>Im sure he also got assurances from the AD office, and at some point you have to decide if you think those people will still be making the call when the job opens up, in his case those people weren't.</div><div>
</div><div>I have never met Raffo before, but my in-laws are close friends with the parents of a kid that played at MSU and they spoke glowingly of Raffo.</div><div>
</div><div>If Raffo makes a regional in year two and Cohen doesn't, I think Polk may write a 22 page letter to the MSU president.</div>
 

8dog

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Im pretty sure he knew a lot of stuff was not being done the way it should, particularly with recruiting.

I know he wanted to make changes if he took over.

But the ****** job Polk did made hiring him almost impossible.

I hope he kills it at ASU and is our next coach.
 

maroonmania

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that promise would have been honored by everyone and Raffo would be the coach right now. Raffo, as Polk's top assistant, has to man up and take his share of the blame for our program nearly becoming devoid of any SEC talent in recent years. Don't know what his talent is right now compared to other Sun Belt teams but I can't imagine you are up against much competition in that league. Heck, if the rest of the SEC hadn't decided to take baseball seriously then MSU would still be winning even with Polk's lack of recruiting interest.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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If Raffo's boss had left one year earlier he would have had the job. If Raffo wants to put the blame on someone, it's Polk.
 

Coach34

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fewer and fewer career assistants are being promoted without any head coaching experience at big schools.

I'm not blaming Raffo for staying, but like Johnny Dawkins, eventually you get tired of waiting- no matter how good the job is.

I'm very glad he is having success at Pig State, but I also think it was best for him to get away from Polk and do it on his own. He couldnt have done that here.
 

alabamadog

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I'll let a knowledgable poster or someone who actually cares enough to post the exact record.</p>
 

hatfieldms

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He could be sucking it up, and be letting Polk help him recruit. As you know Polk's recruiting is one of the main reasons we are where we are now
 

Todd4State

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But there are some things to remember about that situation.

First of all- he kept the previous assistants from the last staff. That helped him out as far as recruiting. He didn't have to re-establish relationships or start relationships with the coaches and recruits in the area because his assistants that were already there had already established them before he even got there. On top of that, I'm sure that Raffo knew of some guys in Mississippi- like Phillip Maletesta from Oxford to add in. In a sport where you have to wait a year for your first recruits to step foot on campus, he basically saved himself a year.

Secondly, he needed to get out from Polk's shadow regardless of whether he is the next Joe Torre or not. I know that he wanted to do things differently at MSU, but the fact of the matter is that a big reason why Polk wanted Raffo to still be around was so that he could still be around. I don't know how much Polk would have let him do what he wanted to do, and I don't know if Raffo would have had the balls to tell Polk no. I also think that there is a very good chance that if Raffo had been hired that Polk would have talked him into keeping Russ McNickle, and that would have been horrible because our pitching would have just sunk deeper and deeper into the depths of hell. Also, who would have replaced Raffo as the hitting coach? Wade Hedges? Who knows. And with Polk still around, there was always a possibility of Polk III. No matter how good Raffo is, Polk would have definately held him back.

I think if Raffo ever hopes of coming back to MSU, he is already more qualified now than he was when he applied the first time because he has experience, and he now has ties to some assistant coaches, and he is doing that successfully. Those were my biggest beefs against him and why I didn't want him, as well as what I typed above.

Had we hired Raffo, it MAY have been better in the short term. It would depend a lot on how many arms McNickle ruined. But, I think long term Cohen was the better choice.
 

Todd4State

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bulldogbaja said:
Tommy Raffo should have known that Polk didn't have the authority to do that.


Tommy Raffo had no reason to believe that Polk didn't have the authority to do that. LT just did whatever Polk told him to do regarding baseball staff hirings.

On top of that you have Polk's legion of croonies that LT liked to keep happy. Raffo may have thought that between Polk and his croonies that would be enough to push him through.

I don't think Raffo anticipated that LT would be gone and that we would have someone in place with some balls.