Baseball question

[DerHntr]

We are currently 19-18. If Cann hadn’t gotten fired, what do you think our record would be today?

 

[msstate7]

23-14-ish

I think the development of our hitters would be a good bit farther along.

 

[philduckworth]

23-14-ish

I think the development of our hitters would be a good bit farther along.

About right. I can think of 4 games Henderson has blown.

 

[57stratdawg]

Good question, cause a case might be made that we’d be worse. Assuming we got 2017 Cann I think we’d be 4 or 5 games better.

Catch is, that could be 3 SEC games. Which would put a SBW host of Arkansas a really big weekend.

 

[Todd4State]

Are you talking Cann from last year or Cann from the USM series? He had lost the team so my guess is had he stayed around we would probably be worse. I'm not sure how much damage control he could have done at this point to salvage things.

 

[HumpDawgy]

I'm sure he would have missed some games with the clap.


I would have put Blake Smith in instead of Cole. He could have given us 3 or 4 innings and gotten us out of that jam. I understand he is our closer, but in that situation, you need your best reliever to get you out of the mess and we don't have anyone other than Blake who is a shutdown guy. Cole is a mid week pitcher at best and should only be brought in with a big lead late in a game. Unfortunately we have a few of those guys on our team.

 

[patdog]

About the same, if not worse. The guy had some real character flaws we didn't see until it all blew up on him. But they were there and coaching a baseball team was the furthermost thing from his mind for months even before the season started.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

A high school kid who can read a basic stat sheet would have us above .500 in the league. Henderson's management of the pitching staff is beyond baffling, especially since that is his background.


Bringing in Gordon, who had already pitched and looked bad on Friday, instead of a fresh Neff, James, or Smith was incompetent.

But not as incompetent as Bringing in Liebelt with a 4-2 lead in the 7th in game 3 at Mizz.

But still not as incompetent as leaving him in the game into the 9th in that same game.

 

[DerHntr]

The reason I ask is because we are all pretty damn disappointed with Henderson but he is possibly just a few games worse than Cann would have been this season. Add the fact that Henderson was thrown into the head coach role after the first weekend meltdown and it’s actually a bit surprising we aren’t worse.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t be disappointed. This team is hard to watch. I’m also not saying we shouldn’t be bitching. I just think Henderson is in one hell of a bad spot.

 

[thekimmer]

I agree but the saddest thing about this whole saga is....

The reason I ask is because we are all pretty damn disappointed with Henderson but he is possibly just a few games worse than Cann would have been this season. Add the fact that Henderson was thrown into the head coach role after the first weekend meltdown and it’s actually a bit surprising we aren’t worse.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t be disappointed. This team is hard to watch. I’m also not saying we shouldn’t be bitching. I just think Henderson is in one hell of a bad spot.

Rolling out the purported greatest college baseball stadium ever constructed in the midst of this feces fest.

 

[5049]

Rolling out the purported greatest college baseball stadium ever constructed in the midst of this feces fest.

Think about it this way. Next year, we'll have the stadium 100% completed, with our rebuild/retool year in the books, with a team full of super sophomores in the lineup, couple of experienced seniors at worst up the middle (Gilbert, Stovall, Alexander), a bonafide Friday night ace in Small (unless he gets himself drafted), and a bunch of talented arms hopefully 100% off of injury (Breaux, James, Ashcraft).

No question though, the pitching is going to need some work/luck. Need some help from the signees.

 

[Todd4State]

I'm sure he would have missed some games with the clap.


I would have put Blake Smith in instead of Cole. He could have given us 3 or 4 innings and gotten us out of that jam. I understand he is our closer, but in that situation, you need your best reliever to get you out of the mess and we don't have anyone other than Blake who is a shutdown guy. Cole is a mid week pitcher at best and should only be brought in with a big lead late in a game. Unfortunately we have a few of those guys on our team.

Either Blake Smith, Keegan James, or Neff would have been better options. That's what is bad to me- Keegan didn't even pitch this weekend.

 

[Todd4State]

The reason I ask is because we are all pretty damn disappointed with Henderson but he is possibly just a few games worse than Cann would have been this season. Add the fact that Henderson was thrown into the head coach role after the first weekend meltdown and it’s actually a bit surprising we aren’t worse.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t be disappointed. This team is hard to watch. I’m also not saying we shouldn’t be bitching. I just think Henderson is in one hell of a bad spot.

I feel the worst for the players. Henderson is in a bad spot but our guys are playing really hard and have improved but he keeps bungling things up for them and he should know better because he actually has SEC head coaching experience. The players weren't coached very well in the offseason and they obviously knew it which is why they went to Cohen in the first place. And Jake Mangum's class has had to play for- three head coaches, three pitching coaches, and three hitting coaches. And add one if any of them stay for their senior year.

 

[5049]

I feel the worst for the players. Henderson is in a bad spot but our guys are playing really hard and have improved but he keeps bungling things up for them and he should know better because he actually has SEC head coaching experience. The players weren't coached very well in the offseason and they obviously knew it which is why they went to Cohen in the first place. And Jake Mangum's class has had to play for- three head coaches, three pitching coaches, and three hitting coaches. And add one if any of them stay for their senior year.

Snake-bit class for sure, from Johnson's weighted balls to Cohen's bailing to Cannizaro's sexting. They were supposed to be the one that put us over the top too, but MSU's administration didn't do their part

I have this weird suspicion that we have not heard the last of that class - and I think we'll all be surprised at how good this team will be next year, with Stovall and Alexander as 4th year players, and Breaux, James and Small back and ready to roll. Maybe Barlow even breaks out next year LULZZZ11