Baseball Recruiting

[Shamoan]

With Miller switching to clemson, are we doing enough to continue to build the program or are we about to slip off into futility for another 2+ year stint? have we done enough to weather the draft storm or are we starting from square 1 again? juco has to be our answer.

 

[maroonmania]

With Miller switching to clemson, are we doing enough to continue to build the program or are we about to slip off into futility for another 2+ year stint? have we done enough to weather the draft storm or are we starting from square 1 again? juco has to be our answer.

It is concerning that on the heels of Jacob Pearson switching his commitment from MSU to LSU that we get the defection of Mitch Miller to Clemson. I know we had staff changes but heck, WJohnson was not even the pitching coach when Miller committed to MSU so you would have thought if there was an issue there he would have signed elsewhere when Thompson left. Losing commitments is one thing but losing guys that have already signed an LOI is definitely disturbing. I mean the draft is already an issue and you get by that just to have a guy defect anyway without even having to sit out a year. I personally don't see how college baseball coaches put up with all of it.

 

[8dog]

Its one guy. It stings but its just one guy. When a coach leaves stuff like this happens though this was particularly odd. We lost two commits when butch left.

Im way more concerned about coggins ability to keep what mingione/butch had going as far as recruiting.

This feels like matt mossberg 2.0. Hope i am proven wrong.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

With Miller switching to clemson, are we doing enough to continue to build the program or are we about to slip off into futility for another 2+ year stint? have we done enough to weather the draft storm or are we starting from square 1 again? juco has to be our answer.

While our 2014 high school class was nothing to write home about, the 2015 and 2016 classes have been great, even without Miller. Cohen has always said it takes 2 in a row. So the 2017 freshman and sophomore classes are legit at the moment, meaning 2018 is going to likely be a great year. 2017 should not be too bad considering our upperclass consists of Kruger, Rooker, Brown, Gordon and Gridley in the field, supplemented by a pretty good class of JUCOs (3 if my count is correct - Bragg, Goldwater, Vansau). Pitching wise, it's Rigby, Smith, Billingsley and Young supplemented by JUCOs Barton, Plumlee and Jolly. That is pretty solid.

I expect a 2017 team that will spend the early season finding its identity, then either sinks or swims by postseason. Similar to 2015, except this time I think the sophomore talent and mentality takes over, and we will host or be a high 2 seed. Then cash in the chips by 2018. I am not really concerned about the future because we so much to look forward to over the next 2 years.

My two cents.

 

[engie]

We are really having a thread worrying about baseball recruiting?

We've got 3/4 of our returning scholarship players in the Cape right now -- several of which are lighting the world on fire in a small sample size -- most of which are freshman. 11 players there. Our previous record was 8(last year) all of which were sophs. Relax. We are going to be fine. We're most likely looking at a small step back next year in terms of experience, with another peak year in 2018.

You do realize that most of our junior class played with their baseball scholarships pulled last season right? Because we got a good bit more of the previous class in than we expected. This type of stuff has become common the last couple of years in baseball. As such, we are not exactly loaded with baseball money to give out in this class. Given that Miller was actually released from his LOI how he was -- there is a pretty good chance we got more in than we expected and his $$ situation wasn't going to work out how he thought it was -- hence allowing him to go elsewhere.

 

[Shamoan]

im asking, not worrying. sure, its important to me that we maintain success and that is the primary concern, but college baseball recruiting is a bit harder to track (and seemingly more fractured analysis of hs players) as compared to college football and basketball, at least for me, so its hard to know where we really stand.

again, a question i hoped would generate multiple informative responses.

 

[57stratdawg]

I believe your Coggins fears are very founded. But, it's hard not to trust Cohen when it comes to that type of stuff. His coaching tree has quite a few branches on it now.

 

[engie]

I believe your Coggins fears are very founded. But, it's hard not to trust Cohen when it comes to that type of stuff. His coaching tree has quite a few branches on it now.

It works both ways. You may not hire a Cliff Godwin -- but you will always have one of the best volunteer assistants in the country because Cohen is essentially allowing them to skip 2 steps if they prove their worth...

 

[Hoover Dawg]

I believe your Coggins fears are very founded. But, it's hard not to trust Cohen when it comes to that type of stuff. His coaching tree has quite a few branches on it now.

Many are saying that Coggin was responsible for our increase in offensive production this year. While the recruiting prowess remains to be seen, I believe we can say with certainty that we have an excellent technical coaching staff, which is a great considering the talent on campus.