Baylor Fires Art Briles

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wow...

I guess it shouldn't be too big of a surprise...they climbed out of the dump pretty quickly...

not a lot of time for standards, morals, ethics or respect for women when trying to get to the top...

he built his program on high risk kids that may have had the talent to play at the big boys but a few too many red flags...kind of like another program i know of...

live by the sword, die by the sword...
Does this remind you of Vandy's sudden rise in the SEC. There were sexual assaults there, too. The coach won and punched his ticket to State College, PA. Vandy quelled the sexual assault issues legally and very quickly.
 

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Briles will be coaching again and soon. He will probably have to go the Petrino route and spend a year or two at a mid-major, but he will be back. And my way too early prediction for where he ends up are either Nebraska, LSU or Auburn
 
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Briles will be coaching again and soon. He will probably have to go the Petrino route and spend a year or two at a mid-major, but he will be back. And my way too early prediction for where he ends up are either Nebraska, LSU or Auburn
ain't no freaking way, a dude who actively tried to help rapists is not going to be hired by a public institution anytime in the next century given the political hot topic that campus sexual assaults has become. Dude is 61 years old, even given your scenario LSU or Auburn or Nebraska aint gonna hire a 64 or 64 year old tarnished coach.

stick a fork in him. maybe, MAYBE he lands in the NFL as an OC in 2017.
 
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His only 2 options will be retirement or the NFL. If a college hired him it would be a PR nightmare. Every woman's group on the planet would descend on that campus, not to mention parents that had a daughter going to that school. After the ut title IX legal issues, Briles is done. If the NCAA gets involved he may get a show cause.
 
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It's laughable that many of you all think that Briles is done in coaching. He will set out a year and serve as a commentator on the B12 Network or some other similar sports channel; he will take a job as a OC at a mid major or HC at a low level school for a year; he will confess his wrongdoing, say he is a changed man, and ask for forgiveness; he will caddy for his daughter with lots of photo ops and start a Briles Family Foundation; he will have his pick of elite college jobs w/in two years.
 

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First I doubt the NCAA gets involved in this. There may be some minor infractions, but that will be it. Second, Briles is an extremely successful coach and with the high financial stakes involved with College Football someone is going to roll the dice. Right now there are several high profile coaches who have jobs despite massive cover-ups. Pitino, Williams and Jones don't appear to be heading anywhere. Urban Meyer was essentially running a Prison feeder system at Florida and he didn't have any problems getting hired. The list goes on and on, Peterino, Bruce Pearl, Kelvin Sampson and Bob Huggins are just a few of the big names. Unless the NCAA gives him a show cause for some reason, we may see him back on the sidelines this season at some school who is willing to role the dice. Wins mean a lot of dollars in college athletics and Briles is a proven winner.
 

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Does this remind you of Vandy's sudden rise in the SEC. There were sexual assaults there, too. The coach won and punched his ticket to State College, PA. Vandy quelled the sexual assault issues legally and very quickly.

And from the coverage I saw Vandy did no coverups or did them any favors, I think several received long prison terms. I'm not sure that was quelling the issues, the trials were on TV. A very sad story, really.
 

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I have a better chance of winning the lottery than Mitch hiring Briles.

That's because we currently have a football coach with a long list of top signings and commitments like Drew Barker, Chris Westry, Denzil Ware, Landon Young, Drake Jackson, Mac Jones. If Kentucky fires Stoops without cause before 12/1/17, Kentucky would be on the hook for Stoops' entire salary through 6/30/20. It has become common for crazy posters to call for Stoops' firing, or insist Stoops is on the hot seat this year. The contract and the recruiting are the part they don't get. Stoops isn't going anywhere. And he shouldn't. I still remember how many people wanted Rich Brooks fired in 2005.
 
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That's because we currently have a football coach with a long list of top signings and commitments like Drew Barker, Chris Westry, Denzil Ware, Landon Young, Drake Jackson, Mac Jones. If Kentucky fires Stoops without cause before 12/1/17, Kentucky would be on the hook for Stoops' entire salary through 6/30/20. It has become common for crazy posters to call for Stoops' firing, or insist Stoops is on the hot seat this year. The contract and the recruiting are the part they don't get. Stoops isn't going anywhere. And he shouldn't. I still remember how many people wanted Rich Brooks fired in 2005.

I'm crazy for wanting Fredo Stoops gone because he signed Drew Barker? What the hell has ever done except getting knocked out at an EKU dorm?
 
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I'm crazy for wanting Fredo Stoops gone because he signed Drew Barker? What the hell has ever done except getting knocked out at an EKU dorm?

Its a tough job, what have you done at QB?

Barker is just getting started, hopefully he will take advantage of his personal growth and much improved help around him------plus better coaching.
 

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I'm crazy for wanting Fredo Stoops gone because he signed Drew Barker? What the hell has ever done except getting knocked out at an EKU dorm?
LOL! Whether you like Drew Barker is unimportant. Many times here on this board, I have talked about reasons for Barker's slow development as a college quarterback. Stoops has excelled as a recruiter. That much is undeniable. If you can name any Kentucky football coach who has ever outrecruited Stoops without getting caught cheating, then please, let's hear his name. So again, terms of his contract. If Kentucky fires Stoops without cause before 12/1/17, then Kentucky would be on the hook for Stoops' entire salary through 6/30/20. So Stoops isn't on the hot seat, and isn't going anywhere. And he shouldn't. By the end of the 2017 season, Kentucky fans will have a different perspective on Stoops. I still remember how many Kentucky fans were calling tor Rich Brooks' scalp in 2005. You were probably 1 of them.
 
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That's because we currently have a football coach with a long list of top signings and commitments like Drew Barker, Chris Westry, Denzil Ware, Landon Young, Drake Jackson, Mac Jones. If Kentucky fires Stoops without cause before 12/1/17, Kentucky would be on the hook for Stoops' entire salary through 6/30/20. It has become common for crazy posters to call for Stoops' firing, or insist Stoops is on the hot seat this year. The contract and the recruiting are the part they don't get. Stoops isn't going anywhere. And he shouldn't. I still remember how many people wanted Rich Brooks fired in 2005.
Ah, yes, the "ditch Mitch and Rich" bandwagon.
 

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Ah, yes, the "ditch Mitch and Rich" bandwagon.
Circa 2005, and they turned out to be morons. In 2006, Brooks took Kentucky to the 1st of 5 consecutive bowl games. Many of the same morons are now screaming for Stoops to be dismissed, which shows morons never learn. Dismissing Stoops would leave Kentucky with more than a $15 million buyout just to get rid of the program's best recruiter since Bear Bryant, and would leave the program facing a staff turnover just when Kentucky's roster will finally be entirely Stoops' recruits. Great thinking. LOL!
 
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Circa 2005, and they turned out to be morons. In 2006, Brooks took Kentucky to the 1st of 5 consecutive bowl games. Many of the same morons are now screaming for Stoops to be dismissed, which shows morons never learn. Dismissing Stoops would leave Kentucky with more than a $15 million buyout just to get rid of the program's best recruiter since Bear Bryant, and would leave the program facing a staff turnover just when Kentucky's roster will finally be entirely Stoops' recruits. Great thinking. LOL!

Mitch hired Billy Gillespie. He should be canned for that by itself. He then hired Joker Phillips. You can call me a dbag for dogging Rich Brooks, but Mitch B sucks and if you can't recognize that you're a moron.
 

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As QB, I won the overall A-League Intramural flag football championship at UK in 2001. True Story. Boom!

At QB I won my company flag football league (ten teams), AND MVP, three years in a row. Actually MVP the first year, CHOICE of MVP on offense or defense 2nd year, and turned it down the third year so someone else could win it, (back to one MVP award).

Big deal, no scouts came calling.
 

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ain't no freaking way, a dude who actively tried to help rapists is not going to be hired by a public institution anytime in the next century given the political hot topic that campus sexual assaults has become. Dude is 61 years old, even given your scenario LSU or Auburn or Nebraska aint gonna hire a 64 or 64 year old tarnished coach.

stick a fork in him. maybe, MAYBE he lands in the NFL as an OC in 2017.
If the job at Otis becomes available I would almost guarantee you be could (probably would)end up there...he wins and that is all that matters there.
 

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It's laughable that many of you all think that Briles is done in coaching. He will set out a year and serve as a commentator on the B12 Network or some other similar sports channel; he will take a job as a OC at a mid major or HC at a low level school for a year; he will confess his wrongdoing, say he is a changed man, and ask for forgiveness; he will caddy for his daughter with lots of photo ops and start a Briles Family Foundation; he will have his pick of elite college jobs w/in two years.
Think we've seen this scenario played out somewhere before haven't we? Does anybody remember that was because I seem to have forgotten already?
 

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ULs next coach after petrino is at their unofficial aaa farm program, wku
 

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ULs next coach after petrino is at their unofficial aaa farm program, wku

For the first time ever I agree with you if he still available...AAA Farm or not Brohm is a hellva up and comer
 
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If Brohm can lead WKU to another bowl season this season with a new QB, he will be one of, if not the most sought after mid major D1 coaches.
 

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Mitch hired Billy Gillespie. He should be canned for that by itself. He then hired Joker Phillips. You can call me a dbag for dogging Rich Brooks, but Mitch B sucks and if you can't recognize that you're a moron.
You clearly don't understand this, but all athletics directors have successes and failures. So, of course, you bring up the 2 Barnhart decisions that are easiest to citicize, but you did not mention (and are probably clueless about) dozens of successful decisions by Mitch that have given him a reputation in the business for being 1 of the best athletics directors in the country. Now that you have admitted to being 1 of the morons who called for Brooks to be fired in 2005, there is no reason to take you seriously.
 
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So, of course, you bring up the 2 Barnhart decisions that are easiest to citicize...

The Billy G hiring was one of the worst hires in the history of collegiate sports. Joker Phillips is one of the worst hires in the SEC in the last 30 years. But great, Dick Brooks got us to the Little Sisters of the Poor Bowl a few years in a row, and our women's basketball team is (uh oh, was) a top 25 team. So yeah, that equals out.

And Mitch is well liked in the business because he is a pushover and keeps getting our *** kicked every year. Jurich probably loves him!
 
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The Billy G hiring was one of the worst hires in the history of collegiate sports. Joker Phillips is one of the worst hires in the SEC in the last 30 years. But great, Dick Brooks got us to the Little Sisters of the Poor Bowl a few years in a row, and our women's basketball team is (uh oh, was) a top 25 team. So yeah, that equals out.

And Mitch is well liked in the business because he is a pushover and keeps getting our *** kicked every year. Jurich probably loves him!
This is so funny and off the wall, it's like an audition for Paul Finebaum. Maybe you will receive your fifteen minutes of fame and someday be on the TeeVee.
 

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The Billy G hiring was one of the worst hires in the history of collegiate sports. Joker Phillips is one of the worst hires in the SEC in the last 30 years. But great, Dick Brooks got us to the Little Sisters of the Poor Bowl a few years in a row, and our women's basketball team is (uh oh, was) a top 25 team. So yeah, that equals out.

And Mitch is well liked in the business because he is a pushover and keeps getting our *** kicked every year. Jurich probably loves him!
I'm sure we all agree Joker and Gillispie were unsuccessful. Your other comments are ridiculous. Clueless and angry don't make for interesting posts. I'm not the only 1 who has noticed. Before you say anything else, 6785 posts with only 476 likes means the board is telling you something.
 
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Mitch Barnhart isn't considered a top athletic director, not at least relative to power conference schools. Find one top ten list that has him listed, cause I haven't seen it.

I'm not advocating for him to be let go either, but he isn't considered one of the best by media or other schools for that matter.
 

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Mitch Barnhart isn't considered a top athletic director, not at least relative to power conference schools. Find one top ten list that has him listed, cause I haven't seen it.

I'm not advocating for him to be let go either, but he isn't considered one of the best by media or other schools for that matter.
I think he just recently won an award as the best ad in the country? ???
 

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I think he just recently won an award as the best ad in the country? ???

Oh he did? Good for him. Tubby Smith also recently won a coach of the year award, but is he a top ten coach?

Barnhart has done well overall at UK, still don't see him as a top ten AD nationally. I remember seeing a ranking by SEC rant of SEC AD's about a year ago and Barnhart came in 8th in the SEC (and that wasn't just football based).
 

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Oh he did? Good for him. Tubby Smith also recently won a coach of the year award, but is he a top ten coach?

Barnhart has done well overall at UK, still don't see him as a top ten AD nationally. I remember seeing a ranking by SEC rant of SEC AD's about a year ago and Barnhart came in 8th in the SEC (and that wasn't just football based).
I'm not totally crazy about MB, but I was making the point that he is highly respected among his peers...I would suggest to you that if he had the financial resources of even say, someone like TJ at Otis, he could get a lot more accomplished without having to jump thru every type of rope under the sun , so I blame it mostly on the big $$$$$$$$$$ boosters and the perfect examples are the football and baseball upgrades at both schools...one hasuch a problem getting the resources while the other has to have a fan revolt for the $$$$$$$$$ people to help at all...why is this?