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[KentuckyDawg13]

Noticed our new SF, Mitch Storm from EMCC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKQ_kpK_Vh0

He is a walk on with a high ACT score, probably got an academic scholly. Looks to be a solid shooter, shoots 3s along with decent post game. He is a bit thin, but at 6’7” has the frame to add some depth to our front-court.

Kegler is now a Baylor transfer, if that matters. Sort of funny on one of Mitch’s twitter pics, he has one of the MSU bench during the game and Kegler is on the end being a non-team member: https://twitter.com/mitchell_storm/status/863157383316606977

 

[Drebin]

I'm looking forward to hoops....Howland's third season...we should take a big step forward.

I doubt this guy plays much, but you never know.

 

[Junction John]

Do you know if he's a gym rat?**

Noticed our new SF, Mitch Storm from EMCC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKQ_kpK_Vh0

He is a walk on with a high ACT score, probably got an academic scholly. Looks to be a solid shooter, shoots 3s along with decent post game. He is a bit thin, but at 6’7” has the frame to add some depth to our front-court.

Kegler is now a Baylor transfer, if that matters. Sort of funny on one of Mitch’s twitter pics, he has one of the MSU bench during the game and Kegler is on the end being a non-team member: https://twitter.com/mitchell_storm/status/863157383316606977

We need shooters

 

[coach66]

I'm glad Mario has moved on, not good chemistry. A 6'7" guy with a good

shooting stroke and who might be taught to rebound and defend is always a good thing.

 

[aTotal360]

He's like have a 2nd coach on the floor. Big time spark plug coming off the bench too.

 

[maroonmania]

Noticed our new SF, Mitch Storm from EMCC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKQ_kpK_Vh0

He is a walk on with a high ACT score, probably got an academic scholly. Looks to be a solid shooter, shoots 3s along with decent post game. He is a bit thin, but at 6’7” has the frame to add some depth to our front-court.

Kegler is now a Baylor transfer, if that matters. Sort of funny on one of Mitch’s twitter pics, he has one of the MSU bench during the game and Kegler is on the end being a non-team member: https://twitter.com/mitchell_storm/status/863157383316606977

Seems like we stocking some players at some pretty good programs. We have Newman at Kansas, Kegler at Baylor, and Brooks at North Carolina.

 

[Palmettodog]

Not the most athletic guy on the floor, but he out hustles everyone. First one at practice, last one to leave. Brings his lunch box to work everyday.

 

[DAWG61]

49% from 3, I like this add a lot

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Howland is teetering on the edge for me. I really need to see some improvement this year to feel great moving forward, but I can't say I'm terribly optimistic about the upcoming season.

 

[Xusuromohses]

The 5 star type players at any mid-level P5 school like us really need to be self motivated in order to excel. The high-level schools can stockpile them. Just the nature of it. As long as we recruit accordingly, it's nothing we should really be concerned about, just reality. Same for football.

Baseball can get away with it a little more than the others, but the scholarship situation hurts there.

 

[Drebin]

My optimism is admittedly blind. I've seen nothing tangible to suggest that we are dramatically better this season. I just think we're due for a turnaround.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Hopefully Ado on the floor is worth 4-5 more wins...

 

[philduckworth]

Howland is teetering on the edge for me. I really need to see some improvement this year to feel great moving forward, but I can't say I'm terribly optimistic about the upcoming season.

I'm sort of in the same boat. I still believe in Howland, but we have now lost 3 of his top signees in Keglar, Newman and Brooks. I think we will be improved this year, but I don't see an NCAAT team.

 

[Palos verdes]

I feel like we will be quite good at some point next season.

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

Yep

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

I hope it doesn't mean anything that when I hear Ado mentioned the first image that comes to my mind is Marcus Campbell.

 

[johnson86-1]

Howland is teetering on the edge for me. I really need to see some improvement this year to feel great moving forward, but I can't say I'm terribly optimistic about the upcoming season.

I'm still good with him for another couple of years. Just too much of a track record for me to think he can't get it done. The only thing that really bothers me is Brooks. We should have seen that coming and signed somebody else if we weren't willing to make him sit out. The transfers are just part of the game today, and I'd rather take some pain on letting people walk than create an inmates running the asylum situation.

I think we're going to have some slight improvement this year, and next year will be a good jump. But admittedly I'm just going off track record and being optimistic that he's only a year behind schedule; not making any projections based on what I see in the pipeline now.

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

On the onset, I agree that he shouldn't play much. But when putting together my starting 5 with alternatives (two deep), we have NOBODY at SF other than Xavian Stapleton and he is more of a #2 than a #3.

Guard play will be strong.
Need some SF guys to step up. Singleton? Storm?
The deep post position will be adequate. Holman, Datcher, Ado, Herard and Feazell will be able to rotate the 4/5 positions.

I'm looking forward to hoops....Howland's third season...we should take a big step forward.

I doubt this guy plays much, but you never know.

 

[whosyourdawgy]

I'm sort of in the same boat. I still believe in Howland, but we have now lost 3 of his top signees in Keglar, Newman and Brooks. I think we will be improved this year, but I don't see an NCAAT team.

Why? Kegler nor Malik lived up to the hype they had coming in. We were dead set on making Malik try to be a pg and he is no pg. see how many minutes he plays at the 1 at Kansas. He will be a 2 there He couldn't beat anyone of the dribble while here. Had no explosion to the rim and couldn't finish when he got there. He had ONE dunk his entire MSU career. He may blow up at Kansas and he wasn't 100 percent healthy but he's got a long way to go to be the 5 star we thought we were getting. Kegler.....what exactly did he do well? Shoot the corner 3? Played no defense. Had at least 2 dumbass fouls every game. Moped and hung his head. Talked **** when he didn't do anything to talk ****. And he's going to Baylor of all places that has a shitstorm of raping cover ups and all sorts of bad press. Good luck to them. Don't miss them. And we don't know what Brooks would've been but I do wish he could've at least made it here to see. But that is one of the strangest ones you will ever see and Howland could do nothing about that. I still say I wouldn't have released his ***. Make him sit and lose a year for screwing out recruiting for a year. That was ****** as can be by Brooks and his mom and we let them just walk away.

 

[Junction John]

Eh, in all fairness to Ben, the Brooks situation was unique and pretty difficult to read. He has a trusted guy on the bench next to him (who happens to be the kid's father), who couldn't even read it properly. I can't fault Howland for trying to make that work, or for cutting him loose when it became obvious that it could cause more harm than good.

Ben and George did everything they could to sign and keep him, until they realized how committed mama was to her cause.

 

[johnson86-1]

Eh, in all fairness to Ben, the Brooks situation was unique and pretty difficult to read. He has a trusted guy on the bench next to him (who happens to be the kid's father), who couldn't even read it properly. I can't fault Howland for trying to make that work, or for cutting him loose when it became obvious that it could cause more harm than good.

Ben and George did everything they could to sign and keep him, until they realized how committed mama was to her cause.

It was unique, which is why you don't sign him unless you're committed to stay the course. The mom's not going to stop being crazy and hating the dad, so you have to sign him knowing that there are going to be bumps in the road. If you're not committed to riding out the bumps, you just pass to begin with.

 

[Shamoan]

i dont expect much of an improvement, but we will be better by default.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Would you say that he has an abundance of grit?

 

[KurtRambis4]

I can't fault

him for riding the Brooks drama train, just like I can't fault Stansbury for playing the Renardo game.

Programs like ours have to take chances. Sometimes they work. Sometimes they don't.

 

[mstateglfr]

Why? Kegler nor Malik lived up to the hype they had coming in.
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Kegler.....what exactly did he do well? Shoot the corner 3? Played no defense. Had at least 2 dumbass fouls every game. Moped and hung his head. Talked **** when he didn't do anything to talk ****.

Ok, I was critical of Kegler thru the season for some on court decisions in most games, but damn this is rough!
He was a middle of the pack 4* recruit who was averaged out to be about 50th in all the recruiting rankings.

a 50th ranked recruit averaged 9.4ppg, 5.5rpg, and shot 35% from deep. Yeah he made some dumb fouls, but also only committed 2 fouls per game.

Seriously, how do those numbers disappoint when you consider they came from a true freshman who was ranked an average of 50th in his class? Were you really expecting a savior?

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

Most freshmen with Mario's credentials would be happy with those stats.

 

[thebushman82]

I think we will win some games but also think we will lose some games as well.

 

[yakalot2]

I think we will win some games but also think we will lose some games as well.

Now that's a bold prediction....

 

[Palmettodog]

Definitely. A real student of the game.

 

[Bulldogg31]

The Driveway Effect

 

[mstateglfr]

Most freshmen with Mario's credentials would be happy with those stats.

Yup.

 

[Junction John]

Grit, and heart. Lots of heart. I heard he's a good "locker room guy".

By the way, to whomever downvoted me above: I'll be at the South Farm tonight. Meet me there.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

I agree, but sometimes stats don't tell the whole story. Statistically, Kegler had a better freshman year that Romero Osby...more PPG, RPG, better shooting from three, and maybe most importantly, twice as many minutes per game. But given the choice of the two moving forward, I would have taken Osby. Kegler just seemed to have some intangibles that I didn't care for. He seemed selfish at times, certainly immature. Unfortunately the plays I will remember most from Mario are not blocking out at the buzzer to give ETSU an easy putback win and the stupid technical foul at Auburn when we were down big at the time, followed by the dumb foul to foul out when we were trying to come back. I've got no hard feelings against him, but at the same time I'm not sorry to see him go.

 

[PineGroveBully]

If you can get him to southfarm then somehow predict Cochran's stepping down then everyone on this board will be more useless for 2-3 days




edited to say MORE useless

 

[josebrown]

I think it's the way he went about getting those numbers. As in not following direction, not playing the way he was instructed, abilities not improving in a way team needs them, not playing in a way beneficial to the team concept or Ben's system. Just because he almost scores ten a game and pulls 5 boards doesn't mean coach is impressed.

 

[Lettucexxxx]

I agree, but sometimes stats don't tell the whole story. Statistically, Kegler had a better freshman year that Romero Osby...more PPG, RPG, better shooting from three, and maybe most importantly, twice as many minutes per game. But given the choice of the two moving forward, I would have taken Osby. Kegler just seemed to have some intangibles that I didn't care for. He seemed selfish at times, certainly immature. Unfortunately the plays I will remember most from Mario are not blocking out at the buzzer to give ETSU an easy putback win and the stupid technical foul at Auburn when we were down big at the time, followed by the dumb foul to foul out when we were trying to come back. I've got no hard feelings against him, but at the same time I'm not sorry to see him go.

THis x 1000

 

[fishwater99]

Howland is teetering on the edge for me. I really need to see some improvement this year to feel great moving forward, but I can't say I'm terribly optimistic about the upcoming season.

Its time to make the NCAAT..

 

[fishwater99]

Why? Kegler nor Malik lived up to the hype they had coming in. We were dead set on making Malik try to be a pg and he is no pg. see how many minutes he plays at the 1 at Kansas. He will be a 2 there He couldn't beat anyone of the dribble while here. Had no explosion to the rim and couldn't finish when he got there. He had ONE dunk his entire MSU career. He may blow up at Kansas and he wasn't 100 percent healthy but he's got a long way to go to be the 5 star we thought we were getting. Kegler.....what exactly did he do well? Shoot the corner 3? Played no defense. Had at least 2 dumbass fouls every game. Moped and hung his head. Talked **** when he didn't do anything to talk ****. And he's going to Baylor of all places that has a shitstorm of raping cover ups and all sorts of bad press. Good luck to them. Don't miss them. And we don't know what Brooks would've been but I do wish he could've at least made it here to see. But that is one of the strangest ones you will ever see and Howland could do nothing about that. I still say I wouldn't have released his ***. Make him sit and lose a year for screwing out recruiting for a year. That was ****** as can be by Brooks and his mom and we let them just walk away.

Malik and his dad wanted him to play the 1, Howland tried to move him to the 2, where have you been??

Mario is just a head case, and has the potential to be an NBA player if he gets motivated and a new attitude.

With Brooks what are we supposed to do hold him hostage and scare off future recruits??

 

[whosyourdawgy]

I've been right the 17 here! Malik wanted to be a pg. we tried him at point. He sucked. He was injured most of the year which contributed to his subpar season but not entirely the reason. He doesn't have the ball handling skills and couldn't beat anyone off the dribble. I didn't want him to transfer mind you and I wish him well but he is no sure fire NBA future player like we all thought he would be

Mario acg nearly 10 pts a game and 5.5 rebounds half assing. His defense is horrendous and his attitude sucked. And he's going to Baylor of all places. Their ship will have to be squeaky clean for the foreseeable future so maybe that will bode well for him and his handler. I won't miss him and am not upset he's gone.

As far as Brooks goes, I think it was ****** how he did his dad, Howland, and our program leaving late as he did. It hurt us for this coming season pretty damn badly especially w the loss of Kegler. Do I think Howland was too nice? Yes. Do I think he probably did right by releasing him? Yes. Am I happy about it and wish we coulda made his *** lose a year of eligibility and possibly pay his own way to whatever school he wanted to go to because we didn't release him? I will not say no. He didn't give a 17 about us. Why pay him any More respect than he showed us? Again Howland is a good dude and probably did the right thing. He was gone regardless and he cares for these young dumbass entitled kids. Letting him walk just pissed me off. Right or wrong.

 

[coach66]

I wish Malik nothing but the best but what I saw was a lack of athleticism that

is going to keep him out of the league. Maybe it was because he was injured but he had great difficulty finishing in the paint with his leaping ability and
it get's a lot tougher at the next level.