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but common sense just says texas beat oklahoma, and although it was a 3 way tie, Texas tech is really not in the conversation based on where they are in the BCS rankings.... in my opinion (which is useless) i just think texas got shafted.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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tennisdawg said:
how does texas beat Oklahoma, and not beat them in the BCS standings? This is so effed up... for real

Because they beat them 6 weeks ago. The voters have a short memory and always have. Florida and Oklahoma in the NC game with more than one team that could play with either one of them. Boy, a playoff of the top 8 would be awesome this season. Too bad we don't need a playoff in college football.
 

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For anybody that harps on the head to head. TTech beat Texas. Texas should get better out of conference games. They played Ark (who sucked but is SEC), Utep, Florida Atlantic, Rice. That is pretty ******. Oklahoma played TCU (good team), Cinci (great team), Washington (traditionally good but sucks), and Chattanoga. OU scheduled to play for a national title, UT scheduled to try and go undefeated. With the BCS, there is now a difference in the 2.
 
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would have been the most entertaining playoff i could imagine. The top 8 or even 16 this year would have been incredible to watch... lots of offense fm the big 12 vs. hardcore defense of the SEC..... shame shame.
 
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If you rank teams 1 and 2 or even 99 and 100, how can one logically put the team that won the head to head match-up lower in the rankings?

Tech dropped so low, they are out of it anyways. That is another argument all together.
 

msubullie4life

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Head-to-head should be thrown out in a 3 way tie. That is what it was a 3-way tie. If OU had lost yesterday to OSU, Texas Tech would have made it to the Big 12 CG. Texas fans wouldn't have brought up the head to head 39-33 to Tech then...plus as someone posted, OU's out of conference wins were much more impressive.
 

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Yes, but...

Texas Tech beat Texas on a last second play in Lubbock
Oklahoma beat Texas Tech by 40+ in Norman
Texas beat OU by 10 on a neutral site

Given those three facts, the Texas Tech win over Texas is the only one that you could consider might have been different on a neutral site.

It's obvious that OU was better than TTU and would have been on a neutral site. Texas beat OU on a neutral site. And Texas Tech's win over Texas was tight enough that you could argue that Texas may have won on a neutral site.

If you ask me, I think OU is likely the best team in the bunch, but I definitely think that if you look at the three games that caused the tie, you could definitely put together a strong argument for Texas.

Bottom line, I think Texas got screwed solely based on the fact that all of their big games were in the middle of the year. They played OU, OSU, Missouri, and Texas Tech all together in the middle of the schedule, and the pollsters basically forgot about them. Had you flipped Texas and OU's schedules, Texas would be the one in the Big 12 title game, because they'd be getting the late season schedule bump.
 

msubullie4life

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Unless my eyes & ears fooled me, I saw and heard Barry Switzer having a huge smile on Fox, announcing the Sooners as the winners og Big 12 South.
 

Corona Con Lima

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They also were the only one of the teams in a three way tie not to have a home game versus the other two. Played 4 top 5 teams in a row, losing on the last play to Tech. I say they got the shaft royally!

CCL
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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RebelBruiser said:
Yes, but...

Texas Tech beat Texas on a last second play in Lubbock
Oklahoma beat Texas Tech by 40+ in Norman
Texas beat OU by 10 on a neutral site

Given those three facts, the Texas Tech win over Texas is the only one that you could consider might have been different on a neutral site.

It's obvious that OU was better than TTU and would have been on a neutral site. Texas beat OU on a neutral site. And Texas Tech's win over Texas was tight enough that you could argue that Texas may have won on a neutral site.

If you ask me, I think OU is likely the best team in the bunch, but I definitely think that if you look at the three games that caused the tie, you could definitely put together a strong argument for Texas.

Bottom line, I think Texas got screwed solely based on the fact that all of their big games were in the middle of the year. They played OU, OSU, Missouri, and Texas Tech all together in the middle of the schedule, and the pollsters basically forgot about them. Had you flipped Texas and OU's schedules, Texas would be the one in the Big 12 title game, because they'd be getting the late season schedule bump.

That's the way I look at it. I would have liked to have seen TTech or OU play a four game stretch that Texas did in the middle of the season. If they had played that down the end stretch it would have made a difference now. But as long as we have the BCS we are going to have arguments like this each season. They need to dump this crap and come up with a playoff.
 
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That would be a royal cluster <17>.... i think texas would actually beat out USC for the BCS title game... that would be strange, but plausible for sure.
 

cb6228

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In the SEC, a similar three-way division tie would be settled by eliminating the lowest rated team in the BCS standings, then reverting back to head-to-head results between the remaining teams.
This sure seems like a better way to solve the problem.
 

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Florida Beats Bama in SEC Championship
Mizzo beats OK in big12
UCLA beats USC

and remember the big uproar last season when UGA almost played in the NC game until the voters jumped LSU to the top.
So i dont see Texas jumping into the NC game in that instance,
So what happens? Utah? Boise State? either of those are non-bcs conference teams and that would be the ultimate bcs buster.
Penn St?
A SEC rematch between UF and Bama?
 

patdog

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RebelBruiser said:
Texas beat OU by 10 on a neutral site
Texas playing in Dallas is anything but a neutral site. If I were Oklahoma's AD, the first thing I would do would be to schedule my home games vs. Texas for Norman.
 

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LUBBOCK, Texas (AP)-Mike Leach had a novel idea about how to break a possible three-way tie in the Big 12 South following No. 7 Texas Tech's 35-21 win against Baylor.</p>

Forget the BCS and head-to-head matchups. Go to the report cards, Leach suggested.</p>

They are STUDENT-athletes.</p>

"I think they should break that three-way tie based on a graduation rate. I think the Big 12 conference should have an executive session tonight," the Texas Tech coach said Saturday. "And I think when they do that they will find that no one's more deserving than the Red Raiders to win Big 12 South."</p>Tech last month announced that an NCAA report showed its football team had a graduation rate of 79 percent to lead the Big 12. The NCAA report showed the football rate for Texas at 50 percent and Oklahoma at 46 percent-at the bottom of the Big 12.
AA - arrr
 

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I think there is only two title game possibilities now. They won't treat Texas the same way they treated UGA last year. If Oklahoma wins the Big 12, it'll be OU vs the SEC Champ. If Oklahoma loses, it'll be Texas vs. the SEC Champ.

BFB
 

patdog

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Head to head in the 3-way tie:

Oklahoma was +14
Texas was +4
Texas Tech was -18

Head to head, Oklahoma was the best team of the three.
 

ScoobaDawg

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If the voters wouldn't let UGA play for the NC because they didnt win the conference, why would they let texas this year?
 

Todd4State

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is it will be the SEC Champ vs USC if Oklahoma gets upset in the Big 12 Championship Game.

As long as USC beats UCLA of course.

And as far as the playoff, you would just have different arguements like who should get in and who shouldn't and etc.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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in the conference. The tie breakers should not be a poll. They should all be statistical things in conference. Go down to point differentials in conference games or something like that.
 

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but if Bama loses to Florida, even with one loss, their SOS kills them. After that one loss they would be out of the picture completely
 

patdog

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But it's a THREE way tie and you can't ignore the fact that Texas lost to Texas Tech and Oklahoma beat them by 24 points in a game that wasn't nearly that close. Texas should thank Oklahoma that they were even in the running to begin with. Because they sure weren't there based on their performance against a Texas Tech team that looked pretty damn mediocre last week.