Ole Miss got spoiled and got tired of winning 7 games/year under Cutcliffe. Then they win 10 games and almost won the division, and capped the season off with a Cotton Bowl win. The next season, after losing the #1 overall draft pick, they go 4-7 with wins over a top 25 team on the road and a solid win over their arch rival. They tried to force Cut to fire assistants, he called their bluff, and was fired. Now, the national perception was that if 6 winning seasons in 7 years is not good enough for this lower-tier program, what is? If I am a head coach at a smaller school or a coordinator at a big school, why do I want to go to a program where that is the reward for winning like Cutcliffe did? They got cocky, and they got punished. And with the best AD in the nation, maybe they don't end up with Orgeron, but they weren't getting who they had at the top of their list either. Same thing with Arkansas basketball. Stan Heath takes them to the tournament his last two years, and they fire him anyway. Guess what? Nobody wants the job. Now this is program that won a national championship in the not so distant past where salary is not an issue, and they got turned down and embarrassed by the first 5 or 6 people on their list. My pet peeve is programs acting like they should be winning national championships and firng coaches who are bringing them results. Now, in no way am I comparing MSU's situation to those because Croom could be fired with just cause yesterday.
I think there is a decent possibility. The SEC ain't the Big East. He's got LSU, Auburn, and Bama every year. His biggest game is no longer Rutgers or West Virginia. I also think he might have some marginal success and jump to another job before he has big time success. They are pitiful this year. Absolutely listless.
That is exactly the problem. In saying that, yes, you are quitting.DowntownDawg said:
That's one of the most moronic statements I've seen on here. I want our team to win the most games possible. To do that, they need to have the best coach they can get. The best coaches go to the best programs. The best programs have the best facilities, the biggest salaries, the largest crowds, and the greatest tradition. M-State, in basketball, is somewhere in the middle of the road. That said, is Roy Williams going to come here? No. Am I a quitter for being realistic enough to think that? John Calipari? Bill Self? Nope. And so the judgment begins in weighing who would be better than our current coach. I might make the judgment that we couldn't get anybody better than Stansbury, considering our facilities, our fan support, our salary and our tradition. Does that make me a quitter? Nope. It might make me wrong, or it might make me right, but it doesn't make me a quitter. It makes me alot closer to a realist than you. I'll wager a prediction: The next time we go through a coaching change in either football or basketball, I predict we'll have one hell of a rougher time finding who we want than you and C34 think. And I bet you'll start throwing Byrne under the bus as well.
For all of that talent we have had in the past ten years, we have zero players in the NBAOptimus Prime 4 said:
My point was to the person who said that we had all of this talent here. While we have had sme talented players come through, we have zero players in the NBA. And if we won the SEC outright 2 years in a row and didn't make it to the Sweet 16 I definitely would not want him fired. Sorry, but that is ridiculous. Settlig for your place would be people being happy with the NIT every year.Coach34 said:
