I agree with all of this. Only way Purdy/Brady/Kurt Warner was because of injuries to the starter.
But why can he only be a backup at best and not lead any team anywhere? I just don’t get how anyone can say that.
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But why can he only be a backup at best and not lead any team anywhere? I just don’t get how anyone can say that.
What did Bagent do that stood out or made you think that he could be a consistently successful in the NFL?
Throw down field. Games against Vegas and Carolina he had 20 completions but only 162 yard in both games and averaged 171 yards a game. Read a defense. He had had 6 INTs to 3 TDs.
Your turn; what has he done that shows you he can be a consistently successful starting QB in the NFL?
I think that’s the bears game planning. I think his arm is just fine. Time and time again Getsy’s gameplan is short quick throws.
Threw a nice seem ball his first game vs Minnesota down field. First play of the chargers game was a go ball completion.
I like his poise, confidence, calmness, mechanics, feel for the position, footwork. I think he has the “it” factor. He has a personality this city this city would really rally behind.
There’s a lot to like. I’m not saying he’s going to make it but to right him off simply bc he’s from D2 is not a good reason.
Don’t make me type all the veterans the Bears brought in the past 30 years. The number is staggering! Yes a good veteran can carry a team for a year or so but certainly not long term.
That’s the thing you must be missing, corey. These guys aren’t talking long term. They’re talking about a bridge until the QB they draft in 2024 is ready to take over.
He can’t throw!!!!!!!
He could be a backup that can go 2-2 with a solid D playing a ball control game….thats valuable.
Can we stop this Bagent can be a starter talk?
He could be a backup that can go 2-2 with a solid D playing a ball control game….thats valuable.
Can we stop this Bagent can be a starter talk?
I am good with whatever plan they have if the draft a QB. I am not good with just signing a veteran and hoping he can be a miracle worker. The Bears are known to sign a vet and hope it satisfies the hunger fans. It’s a quick fix that hasn’t and won’t work.
I am fine if you have the best defense in the league and an offense in on the rise. Add a QB like Brady to win a quick SB. This isn’t where we are at not by a long shot.
There's been multiple reasons listed as to why and you're only response was "it factor" and other buzz words that mean nothing.
Where did anyone say that? Anyone who said anything about bringing a veteran is was based on also drafting a QB. The veteran would play until the drafted QB is ready, and that could be up to a year.
All I am saying is the Vet can’t be the answer and won’t be the answer. We have live that plan over and over. Draft a good rookie and I don’t care who the vet is because it’s not going to be pretty. Hopefully the rook is a quick study.
Nonewhat veteran QB in the league do you think has any value?
That’s why I say keep Fields and draft another QB in the later rounds. Bears have picks to do this.
Your rational is he’s from D2.
Combine QB Velocity
FWIW, I don’t buy into any notion that he has a weak arm. His arm strength was 3rd best at the combine last year and same as what Mahomes was at the combine.
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Go back and read again, I said he couldn't throw the deep ball, thst can mean an accuracy issue not necessarily arm strength. I also said he has issues reading defenses leading to his INTs. You still have provided nothing.Your rational is he’s from D2.
Combine QB Velocity
FWIW, I don’t buy into any notion that he has a weak arm. His arm strength was 3rd best at the combine last year and same as what Mahomes was at the combine.
It was obvious in nfl game action he can’t make all the NFL throws.Your rational is he’s from D2.
Combine QB Velocity
FWIW, I don’t buy into any notion that he has a weak arm. His arm strength was 3rd best at the combine last year and same as what Mahomes was at the combine.
I can’t even with this Bagent as a starter stuff, it’s like people don’t watch the games and know what they are watching.
Kids gotta future as a career backup that will make a lot of money for himself…great story rooting for the kid.
What am I missing? What’s a play he made this year that showed he can’t make all the throws?
If you can’t see it not sure what to tell you…
See his 1st pick v Vikings.
But if you think he can make all the throws nothing I post will change your mind.
I went back at looked at some more and he can’t read a D either.
I can’t believe this is still a conversation.
If he's so capable then why was Fields starting the moment he was healthy?
What throws has he made that shows he can make all the throws? You like him and say he has "it" but you've provided zero examples, while others have provided multiple examples as to why he's not a starting QB. You can't just say something for the sake of saying it without annything to back it up.
These 2nd stringers that come in and have moderate success then the league quickly catches up..see Dobbs and a handful of others over and o er every year.
Eberflus doesn’t sound like a guy worried about his job with the media this week, joking around. Maybe it’s nervousness or maybe he knows he’s safe. Or maybe I’m reading to much into it.
Only justification they can have for keeping him is the defensive improvement. The only way I'm ok with that is if they bring in a top notch OC and DC. For that to happen I don't think you can give Eberflus full hiring authority. He had two coaches dismissed this year for HR issues so his judgment is lacking.
What top notch OC wants to come knowing it’s all on him or they are all fired? We have seen this game before. That’s the issue this day in age with a D HC. If you find a great OC he’s gone in 2 years.
His two coaches issues could certainly be justified for his removal. But I get it would have been hard in season with one top coordinator gone….but they can’t forget about that whole ordeal.
I assume they know what they are going to do regarding coaches and JF…
Agree to a point, but honestly, right now, Chicago is a good destination for a coach. They're up and coming with draft capital and plenty of free agent money. If a top notch OC comes in and makes a difference, then yes, he'll go somewhere as a HC but if that's the case then that means he improved the offense.
Eberflus and Reich had a good thing together in Indy
Reich has 36mill coming his way from the panthers through 2026. Maybe he just calls it quits.
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I didn’t think about him but I think that might be a long shot…but who knows.
Frank Reich would be a perfect OC if he’d do it.
Tyson Bagent is a perfect NFL back up in the mold of Gardner Minshew (keeps team’s chances and energy levels up while starter heals and gives team a chance each week)
Ok. Back to my holidays
Tyson Bagent is a perfect NFL back up in the mold of Gardner Minshew (keeps team’s chances and energy levels up while starter heals and gives team a chance each week)
Ok. Back to my holidays
All I’m saying on Baegent is…
There’s a lot to like and at this point I’m not going to say his ceiling is a backup. Especially with what Purdy is doing. He got a flyer from the bears and beat out a lot of QB’s to become the #2.
Should he be the bears starter right now? No. But I look forward to watching his future with the Bears.
There’s a lot to like and at this point I’m not going to say his ceiling is a backup. Especially with what Purdy is doing. He got a flyer from the bears and beat out a lot of QB’s to become the #2.
Should he be the bears starter right now? No. But I look forward to watching his future with the Bears.