Please go check out the other scores from today at d1baseball. Some other pretty close games from ranked teams playing scrubs.
http://www.d1baseball.com/2013/daily/0219.htm
http://www.d1baseball.com/2013/daily/0219.htm
Before anybody loses it over a 2-0 WIN.
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Also keep in mind that we've thrown back to back shutouts with our no. 4 & 5 starters.
Woodruff could be our ace.. Far from 4 or 5
Cox, our 4th or 5th starter lasted only 3 innings.
So yes our pen is awesome but your point is incorrect
Who gives a ****? We've given up 3 runs in 5 games. I don't care who's pitching or who we're playing. That's pretty damn good. Let's just chill out and realize that we will be mediocre at the plate, have maybe the best pitching staff in the country, and Cohen will b-u-n-t too often. That should equal the best season we've had since 2001.
but he's a correct douchebag. Woodruff should be our #1- the only question is whether he is healthy or not
Purdue 7th in the country in batting average last year. Samford 23rd and we know what power they have.
Portland was 282nd.
Lets see what we can really be about this weekend. Gonna take more than 2 run Cohen ball to compete with these guys and most SEC teams. Not to mention Cohenballs epic fail last year in Tallahassee. If we want a truly successful season (hosting, Omaha, not going 2 and out in Omaha) that **** can't continue because we will face teams that can put up 8 runs in their sleep.
Hell... 5 games isn't even a big enough sample size to gauge whether or not we'll be a good offensive ball club or not. Of course everyone on here has to start freaking out.
he said last year, so what you're getting at really doesn't even matter in this case.
I'm assuming you are going to argue that portland is 282 because they played state in the first four games.
I'm assuming you are going to argue that portland is 282 because they played state in the first four games.
I was pretty impressed with Woodruff. Correct me, but I think tonight was his first game action since July/August last year. I'm not shocked he was a little rusty, as I think our entire staff appears right now. But, he wasn't missing by much. Some of those balls today could have been strikes if the ump was calling a little wider plate.
If he stays healthy, the kid can be damn good for us this year. His health this year might be the most important aspect of MSU baseball in 10 years. Because with him, we have a National championship caliber pitching staff.
If he stays healthy, the kid can be damn good for us this year. His health this year might be the most important aspect of MSU baseball in 10 years. Because with him, we have a National championship caliber pitching staff.
Anybody freaking out right now is ridiculous. We will know a little bit more after this weekend but still not much seeing that not enough ball has been played and last season doesn't mean a damn thing.
Exactly, 5 games is not nearly enough to tell anything about a ball club offensively or defensively.
We've scored 33 runs in 5 games you idiot. You act like we have scored 2 runs every game. We didn't hit well tonight. It freaking happens. If you're going to compare teams to last year, then I'd say we put up a ton of runs on a top ten pitching staff this weekend. You can't have it both ways with your "stats".
And if you don't consider making it to Omaha a successful season, then you may be the dumbest poster here. You're already arguably the worst.
And if you don't consider making it to Omaha a successful season, then you may be the dumbest poster here. You're already arguably the worst.
I agree- if he can stay healthy and throw on Friday's- that means we have an outstanding #3 throwing on Sunday in either Mitchell or Lindgren- and we would have one of the top 3 weekend rotations in the nation
Your 
: is showing.
Your post both that in current form, we can't compete with most SEC teams, yet you go on to talk about expecting us to do better than 2 and out in Omaha. What?
Your dislike of Cohen still baffles me. He's turned the **** sandwich he inherited into a serious threat in the conference/national level. Did he b*nt your mom?
: is showing.Your post both that in current form, we can't compete with most SEC teams, yet you go on to talk about expecting us to do better than 2 and out in Omaha. What?
Your dislike of Cohen still baffles me. He's turned the **** sandwich he inherited into a serious threat in the conference/national level. Did he b*nt your mom?
I dont dislike Cohen he has been great for the program. He is a hell of a recruiter, especially finding and developing talent on the mound. I didn't say he couldn't compete in the SEC, with our arms we should be in almost every game. I did say that getting to Omaha would be successful but if we want more than a two and out then we will have to put up runs.
So far Cohen is Mullen. Inherit a bad team have really good success (Gator vs Mich, Super vs UF) and then solid seasons (Music City, Gator Nw\ Regional) The difference is that further success is much much easier in baseball. But in order to do that we are going to have to score runs in bunches, as last year proved. His approach negates that. During a long season we will win enough to get in but like in other sports the playoffs are a whole different animal.
You are correct on one thing....we'll find out alot this weekend. But this much is obvious.
Some people are a little too sheeptastic right now. I'm still in the 'make a regional' mindset. At this point, I think we have CWS potential, but I do agree with you that our hitting worries me. But it is early, and other elite teams are doing the same thing. We've got competition coming Friday though.
Some people are a little too sheeptastic right now. I'm still in the 'make a regional' mindset. At this point, I think we have CWS potential, but I do agree with you that our hitting worries me. But it is early, and other elite teams are doing the same thing. We've got competition coming Friday though.
It seems we have different views on cause and effect
I see that we fail to score many runs because we have a low batting average, therefore we play small-ball.
It appears you believe that we play small-ball, therefor we fail to score many runs.
I see that we fail to score many runs because we have a low batting average, therefore we play small-ball.
It appears you believe that we play small-ball, therefor we fail to score many runs.
You must be new to this discussion. I won't waste my time. Look up old threads on this from a few days ago.
In short. Boyd/ it is college stats/ our results last year
So enlighten me. Who is the Tom Tango of college baseball statistics? Has there ever been a look into the effectiveness of ****ing on the college level? I mean other than just glancing at MSU's stats. I am guessing you are getting the stats from Boyd. What years were the stats taken from?
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Its bnuting one man over from first to 2nd that is our offensive handcuff. (26 of 33 sac bnuts last year in SEC play were of this man on 1st no out variety)
http://www.boydsworld.com/data/ert.html
Look at the expected run difference between man on first no out and man on second one out.
Now look at the % of scoring at least one run.
Now look at us employing this strategy, not in the late innings where one run may be important, but during all innings when we should be trying to put up crooked numbers
Does he have any numbers on how often the sac **** is successful? I mean getting the runner to second or beyond. I think in the pro's it is something like 70%. I wonder what it would look like in college.
Also, if I remember correctly from The Book...he found that ****ing early in games was more effective than late in games.
Also, if I remember correctly from The Book...he found that ****ing early in games was more effective than late in games.
If you can't clearly see where moving one man to second and giving up an out fails the Boyd test as well as our production of it last year then I can't help you. Bnuting is not a success in and of itself, scoring runs is the measure of success.
This is from last May
I looked at the innings which our leadoff man got on first base in conference play for analysis. I looked at what the outcomes where when we immediately followed a leadoff one-bagger (Hit, HBP, BB, IBB, etc) man on 1st 0 out.
With man on 1st, 0 out. WE ****
Occurrences: 26
Score a run: 6
# of runs : 6
We ****ed in that position 26 times, only scoring 6 times, one run each inning. That is 23% which is off the charts bad yielding 0.2 runs/inning.
With a man on 1st, 0 out. WE DONT ****
Occurrences: 66
Score a run: 36
# of runs: 77
We didnt **** in that situation 66 times, scoring 36 times, with many occurrences of multiple runs. That is 55% of innings we score yielding 1.12 runs/inning, A FULL RUN higher than ****ing in the same situation.
55% > 23% of innings we score
1.12 > 0.2 runs per inning
Say what you want about me and this issue. These statistics don't lie.
In other words 24% of the time in man on first no outs we would ****, resulting in 5% of our runs from that situation. FIVE PERCENT, in almost a QUARTER of usage.
Cohen has built 5X more than Mullen has. Mullen took over the 9th or 10th best roster in the SEC and has turned it into the 8th or 9th. Cohen, on the other hand, took over the 11th or 12th best roster and has turned it into the 3rd or 4th.
This is a results oriented business. 2 NYD Bowls is equal to a Super loss and Regional two and out.
Also much easier to progress in baseball I might add, especially for M State
I was disappointed with our hitting. But we pitched well. And we won on Tuesday. Something #12 Rice can't say. They lost to previously 0-3 Dallas Baptist last night.
Currently we have more than double the number of sac bnuts as the second most in the SEC. 7 for us, 3 for Vandy Ark and Auburn
At this pace (1.75 a game), we will end up with 98 for the season. Otherwise known as 8 more than the number that led the NCAA's last year.
Just a head's up.
At this pace (1.75 a game), we will end up with 98 for the season. Otherwise known as 8 more than the number that led the NCAA's last year.
Just a head's up.