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OllO_rivals234182

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This current generation isn’t dealing with it. Kudos to this young man.
Imagine being the kid who's dad just got the game canceled. That's rough. That must be so embarrassing for this kid. I'm going to take a wild guess and say they are Americans, Fat, a hook on their hat bill, smoking and drinking Busch light. There are entitled parents living through their kids like this all over sports, arts, and academics. When living vicariously through your kid(s) things go wrong and you lose.

BALLGAME!
 
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Otis1144

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Why don't we have a down vote to click? Awful post....worst I've ever seen here.

I agree that officials should be treated with more respect, but why would you even mention race and who cares where you work, your age, if you’re a redneck, or what pole you climbed for 38 years or who's freaking door you knock on. You're pretty embarrassing yourself. Stop bragging on yourself and making race an issue with this subject. Many come here to get away from all the race issues in today's world. The substance of your post is nothing more than your opinion - not FACT. You have contradicted yourself as well by saying this post is not about race and then spew all that other stuff about whites and blacks.

Maybe you should have given up officiating sooner or better yet never started officiating.
Sounds like some officials can't handle being criticized for making bad calls. And some appear to be misogynists for singling out women who disagree with a bad call. Once again, I don't agree with some of the abuse officials have to tolerate, but to hyperbole sex, race, age on this message board regarding the behavior of fans, players and coaches toward officials is just as wrong as hollering at an official after they made a terrible call.

I was a NCHSAA official several years ago and have coached many years in different sports. Been there done that. Criticism comes with the territory and some officials have thin skin and seem to forget coaches, players and fans want to win and be treated fairly. The HCs livelihood’s on the line as well. Trade places with the coach and see how the shoe fits when you get an erroneously bad call with the game on the line. However, once again, I agree, officials do not deserved to be verbally abused. If fans are verbally abusing officials with profanity or threaten them physically, they should be permanently banned, otherwise they should be ignored. It's not the YMCA get a participation trophy, there's a lot at stake and with that comes fierce competition. I mean should they say “aw shucks” and just forget it? Let’s be real.

The NCHSAA/NFHS needs to provide officials with better training and increase their pay. On the other hand more stringent rules and guidelines must be enforced to remove fans when they cross the line of so called bad behavior. As long as human beings are officiating games, mistakes will be made and as long as human beings watch, play or coach sports, emotions will be involved. The ultimate goal should be to strive for better sportsmanship from all parties and leave all this other nonsense out of it.
Reading apprehension may not be your strong suit. I was responding to someone asking this: Age, Race and Reason for the altercation. I clearly stated race had nothing to do with it. The rest of my post was discussing how embarrassing my own race can be. If you don't like it that's tough. Ignore me.
 

Wizard of the East

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You are 100% correct, don’t get me wrong, poor pay has a lot to do with lack of officials, but number one reason was bad behavior by coaches, fans and players.

A young official comes and stays a year and says “ Why am I doing this?”
One thing I do know from some of the officials I have known they’re not doing it for the money , they’re doing it for the love of the game and since their playing days are over it’s the opportunity to get close to the game again. Maybe I’m niave and I too can be a bad fan sometimes but notice I said for the love of the game, if they’re not respected , loved, they’re not going to stay around. I’ve known some legends
 

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Not for the money. Not for the attitude. Not for the verbal abuse. Not for the physical abuse. Call GAME and go home.

This should patch up the wounds.
 
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One thing I do know from some of the officials I have known they’re not doing it for the money , they’re doing it for the love of the game and since their playing days are over it’s the opportunity to get close to the game again. Maybe I’m niave and I too can be a bad fan sometimes but notice I said for the love of the game, if they’re not respected , loved, they’re not going to stay around. I’ve known some legends
That’s awesome....I doubt they turn the money down...especially considering basketball officials were gonna go on strike if not better pay....doesn’t sound like “love of game” to me
 

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That’s awesome....I doubt they turn the money down...especially considering basketball officials were gonna go on strike if not better pay....doesn’t sound like “love of game” to me
63% of officials surveyed in NC said fan behavior was reason for quitting. 51% wanted better compensation. So again, no one should ever want a raise? I love cheeseburgers but prices have went way up since you could get five for a dollar at Ray’s…
Anybody else remember that restaurant? Painted Petty blue…
 

nwguilford007

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63% of officials surveyed in NC said fan behavior was reason for quitting. 51% wanted better compensation. So again, no one should ever want a raise? I love cheeseburgers but prices have went way up since you could get five for a dollar at Ray’s…
Anybody else remember that restaurant? Painted Petty blue…
I don’t mind them wanting a raise...that’s in every profession....I have a problem with people acting like officials are holy and do this purely for the love of the game....no one would officiate if it was volunteer
 
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I don’t mind them wanting a raise...that’s in every profession....I have a problem with people acting like officials are holy and do this purely for the love of the game....no one would officiate if it was volunteer
I’m not saying that all officials are great either. They are a cross section of society so you will have all levels. I’m just trying to say we, as fanatics, shouldn’t talk to them like dogs. Can you imagine someone showing up at the place you work and cussing you? Every day? That’s all I’m trying to say here.
 

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That's what I always say. Why should it be acceptable anywhere to show up and cuss someone on their job? Does the contractor parent cussing an official want the official to show up to his job and cuss him for not getting his morter mix correct?
 
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25 bucks a game when I did it for a summer league....good exercise, fun and descent money considering you get 4-5 games a night....sure a few parents told me i sucked and what not....who cares though
Serious question:how long did you call Y games? How many years?
 

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Currently 5....going on 6
And going by your user name you’re 33-36?
This is off top of my old head so numbers could be off some. Seems like 74% of NCHSAA officials are over 45 and maybe 52% are older than 55. You should join the ranks then sir. You could get some of that money for the next 20-25 years.
Seriously you should look into it.
 
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nwguilford007

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And going by your user name you’re 33-36?
This is off top of my old head so numbers could be off some. Seems like 74% of NCHSAA officials are over 45 and maybe 52% are older than 55. You should join the ranks then sir. You could get some of that money for the next 20-25 years.
Seriously you should look into it.
Idk if you want me at eastern randolph...I got a quick whistle and I hear yal pretty aggressive lol
 

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Reading apprehension may not be your strong suit. I was responding to someone asking this: Age, Race and Reason for the altercation. I clearly stated race had nothing to do with it. The rest of my post was discussing how embarrassing my own race can be. If you don't like it that's tough. Ignore me.
Lol I promise apprehension is not my strong suit. Maybe try researching that word. I guess I had a hard time comprehending your apprehension on your post. You have totally lost me, but go back read your post again. I’m slow, my bad, but that post lost me, plus this reply has me scratching my head. No harm - no foul, but still imo race should not be brought into this conversation regardless of your own race or any other race.
 
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OllO_rivals234182

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Calling games can be a headache with fans. How challenging is the transition from a high school football official to a college official and then to an NFL official?

The highest NFL ref makes over $250,000
 

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Calling games can be a headache with fans. How challenging is the transition from a high school football official to a college official and then to an NFL official?

The highest NFL ref makes over $250,000
Wonder what minor league umpires make
 

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I don’t mind them wanting a raise...that’s in every profession....I have a problem with people acting like officials are holy and do this purely for the love of the game....no one would officiate if it was volunteer
Officials and umpires are required to travel to clinics at least six different times and do scrimmages for FREE!!!! Do not get paid for this and also pay registration and insurance and booking fees. Also required to take a 100 question exam and not paid for their time. Alot of time is spent away from family and home. Most work full time jobs and rush to the field or court after working all day. Gas is high and when its said and done after taxes are paid not alot of profit in it so yes it is done for the love of the kids and the game.
 

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Officials and umpires are required to travel to clinics at least six different times and do scrimmages for FREE!!!! Do not get paid for this and also pay registration and insurance and booking fees. Also required to take a 100 question exam and not paid for their time. Alot of time is spent away from family and home. Most work full time jobs and rush to the field or court after working all day. Gas is high and when its said and done after taxes are paid not alot of profit in it so yes it is done for the love of the kids and the game.
+1 ….
 

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Officials and umpires are required to travel to clinics at least six different times and do scrimmages for FREE!!!! Do not get paid for this and also pay registration and insurance and booking fees. Also required to take a 100 question exam and not paid for their time. Alot of time is spent away from family and home. Most work full time jobs and rush to the field or court after working all day. Gas is high and when its said and done after taxes are paid not alot of profit in it so yes it is done for the love of the kids and the game.
if its done for the love of the kids and the game why did basketball officials threaten to sit out and strike if they didnt get paid more (which i understand)....
 
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if its done for the love of the kids and the game why did basketball officials threaten to sit out and strike if they didnt get paid more (which i understand)....
Most don’t do it for money but there are some they do it for extra cash but Money helps us do our jobs like help pay for gas , food, etc and also I also believe Scrimmages n Pre season stuff we should get pay for too
 

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You can do something for the love of the game and the kids and still get compensated properly. I don't know why this society thinks people should do something without being compensated properly.
Bill man still gonna show up wanting his regardless of why you're doing it.
 

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It only takes one person to act like an idiot to ruin an otherwise good experience. I think most coaches respect the refs and most head coaches expect their sidelines to remain respectful. Then you get one loudmouth that goes off like a loose cannon and abuse a ref. We need to all be accountable and pray our kids will learn from our behavior. Those who abuse the refs should be called out. No need for that kind of crap. What a ref makes or doesn’t make is not a reason to be a jerk.
 

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The actions of kids are a byproduct of the adults around them. I've never understood why the same people that raise kids or the same people that have raised kids that now have kids constantly berate kids for their behavior ignorant to the fact they're the ones that raised them. The adults in America right now need to act like adults and not a bunch of angry jackoffs because they don't get their way.
 

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The actions of kids are a byproduct of the adults around them. I've never understood why the same people that raise kids or the same people that have raised kids that now have kids constantly berate kids for their behavior ignorant to the fact they're the ones that raised them. The adults in America right now need to act like adults and not a bunch of angry jackoffs because they don't get their way.
You said this just a good as a jigsaw puzzle professional. Sadly those said kids inherit the same DNA. These are the same humans attacking and discouraging refs from volunteering to volunteer. Enjoyed reading your script. Thank you sir
 

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Behavior is the title of this thread.....thus a little light hearted take on it. Taking place in Boone NC, could be the culprit was on his way to a basketball game ? ...lol.

Hold on to your hats to watch the thrills and chills of a High Speed chase involving a What .......Tractor and 11 police cars !! But it is a John Deere and as they say, "Nothing Runs Like A Deere"

 

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This story has made the National News. Reading more on it .... As he led the local officers on a chase that almost topped 20 MPH, he was playing the theme song to Dukes of Hazard. Unable to stop him with spike strips ( not effective on tractor tires) they shot off one of the front wheels. Still proceding till he ran out of road he jumped off the tractor and displayed a knife ....wrong move, never bring a knife to a gun fight. They however showed some restraint (while laughing I would think) and lit him up with a taser. No officers or idiots where harmed in this. Some reporter stated this was real life "Hicks Gone Wild" Referring to the suspects last name, Hicks. He was charged with, among other things, Grand Theft Agriculture. I did notice the tractor had a post driver on the back 3 Pt attachment. I was suprised he didnt try and deploy it against the officers in hot pursuit. He did however damage some cars, ran over road signs and ran into a church. When he was approaching a school (maybe headed to the gym ??) is when they shot off his front tire. It was said he is Well Known to local law enforcement. Any body on here in the Boone area that knows this person ? Was he involved in any of the afore mentioned altercations at HS basketball games ?