Belichick's 4th down call

[sparky39762]

Dumber than Orgeron's 4th down call in the 2007 Egg Bowl. You give the Colts the ball on the 30 with 2 minutes left, TD wins the game. Speechless.</p>

 

[GBryne4Heisman]

If Faulk catches it clean, they win. Plus I think they got hosed on the spot ayway. They acted like he juggled it to the ground, but he didnt. He establishes posses almmost immediately.

 

[dawgatUSM]

he was juggling it, and he finally gained possession just before hitting the ground

 

[sparky39762]

even if he caught it clean.</p>

I just don't think you take the chance of giving the other team the ball 30yds away from the winning TD, rather than punting it 70+yds away from the winning TD.

Either way, he'll be answering questions about that call all week long.</p>

 

[GBryne4Heisman]

he was juggling it, and he finally gained possession just before hitting the ground

No he's not. The ball hits him, it bounces, and he catches it. It doesn't hit him, then bounce-bounce. Its pretty clear from the Bradys angle.

 

[excrementoccurs]

Should have been a first down. But they should have punted.

The pass interference call on the drive before was the worst call of the game. That was a 30+ yard penalty on a bad call.

 

[dogfan96]

All the ball had to do was touch the front of the 30 yard line and he did.

 

[perch0]

I also though he had control on thirty, however after the ruled the other way I would let Indy score on first play and let Brady try for field goal yardage.

 

[Dawg in a pile]

All the ball had to do was touch the front of the 30 yard line and he did.

You also think Tyson Lee is a good QB, so your opinion about anything is basically worthless. It was close enough to review it, but there is no way they would have changed the spot to be close enough to get the 1st down. It definitely wasn't conclusive that he had possession of the ball on the first down marker. Regardless, that might have been the dumbest decision I have ever seen a coach make, definitely in professional football.

 

[jackstefano]

Why would you have let Indy score on the first play? Doesn't seem to make sense.

 

[dogfan96]

or even care for that matter.. but f*u*c*k you

 

[HD6]

you are going to get the ball back down 1 with a 1:40 something left, plenty of time to drive for a field goal.

 

[GBryne4Heisman]

there is a real chance they wouldn't have just marched right in the endzone. I bet the colts would have taken a knee on the 1 or something if that really was what was happening.

Maurice Jones Drew took a knee on the one yesterday as time was running out, and I watched Brian Dawkins do the same last year or so against the Cowboys.

I agree they wouldn't have overturned the spot of the ball, but if they would have marked it a 1st down, they wouldn't have overturned that either.

 

[HD6]

what would that have done for them? This wasn't MJD doing it to set up a field goal down one or Brian WESTBROOK doing it with the lead. They needed a touchdown to win.

 

[jackstefano]

Tubbs did that once when he was at OM. Didn't work but it made sense given the time left in the game. With 2 minutes left, up by 6 and the ball near the 30, timeouts left, I don't see that being the correct move. I'm not a coach though.

 

[patdog]

How about actually TRYING TO STOP THEM. Now once they got to 1st and goal at the 1, the Patriots should have probably let them score, but by then they'd have been under a minute to go, not 1:40.

<table class="tablehead" id="playTable" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3"> <tbody> <tr class="colhead" valign="top"> <td colspan="2">Indianapolis Colts at 2:00</td> <td>NWE</td> <td>IND</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td width="135">1st and 10 at NE 29</td> <td>(Shotgun) P.Manning pass short left to R.Wayne to NE 14 for 15 yards (J.Wilhite).</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td width="135">1st and 10 at NE 14</td> <td>J.Addai up the middle to NE 1 for 13 yards (J.Wilhite).</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td width="135">1st and 1 at NE 1</td> <td>J.Addai left tackle to NE 1 for no gain (V.Wilfork, R.Brace).</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td width="135">2nd and 1 at NE 1</td> <td class="bi"><span class="greenfont"><font color="#007F00">P.Manning pass short left to R.Wayne for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.</font></span></td> <td class="bi" align="middle">34</td> <td class="bi" align="middle">34</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td width="135"></td> <td class="bi"><span class="greenfont"><font color="#007F00">M.Stover extra point is GOOD, Center-J.Snow, Holder-P.McAfee.</font></span></td> <td class="bi" align="middle">34</td> <td class="bi" align="middle">35</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> </td> <td>P.McAfee kicks 72 yards from IND 30 to NE -2. M.Slater to NE 20 for 22 yards (C.Glenn).</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="colhead" valign="top"> <td colspan="4">DRIVE TOTALS: NE 34, IND 35, 4 plays, 29 yards, 1:47 elapsed</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

 

[HD6]

how did that work out? There's no stopping Manning in that situation. You've already conceded the touchdown, give yourself some time to come back.

 

[perch0]

We are talking New England. You have a better chance of Brady moving the ball into fieldgoal range from the 20 than stopping manning from scoring 6. I thing on the first play Indy's receiver would not have ran in but on the running play hit the running back but let him score and you still have about
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