Belima with a mild shot at Harbaugh

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https://n.rivals.com/news/opposing-coaches-aim-jokes-at-harbaugh

I wish Dantonio would have added, "You are buying unless we go to a buffet."

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

Hilarious to watch SEC coaches get all butt hurt over this. Good gawd, what a bunch of freaking wimps.

 

[studed]

harbaugh responds to this tweet

 

[GretnaShawn]

harbaugh responds to this tweet

Harbaugh doesn't give any F's. Wow.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

Mixed feelings about all of this. I don't like Harbaugh, but I love the fact that he's got the SEC in such a tizzy over it.

 

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harbaugh responds to this tweet

Wow, talk about coming off the top turnbuckle! Laughing Harbaugh better hope he never has a scandal.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...exual-assault-suit-filed-against-ut/79966450/

 

[newAD]

Mixed feelings about all of this. I don't like Harbaugh, but I love the fact that he's got the SEC in such a tizzy over it.

Right there with you. Right now he is the lesser of two evils.

 

[ellobo_rivals188748]

Right there with you. Right now he is the lesser of two evils.

The interesting thing is that one of the biggest beneficiaries of some of the things Harbaugh is doing could and should be NU. You guys have a big name and I'm guessing aren't cash poor. If the NCAA does not step in the way of future team trips and satellite camps, NU could have a front and center presence in more places and at more times in the places you need to recruit without having to return the favor (the Bama's of the world aren't going to be setting up shop in say Omaha next spring). This is the answer to your "500 mile radius" problem and you should be thanking Harbaugh for this...and also following him.

 

[jay-cheese]

Wow...that might be the best post I've seen in years Ellobo. I don't know if our nice guy coach has he stones or not (not trying to be rude...just saying). Then again I don't see him coaching for more than 5-7 years no matter how good or bad he does so why not...

I'm sure our players would be amped up for this. one spring go to FL for a week, the next CA, and the next TX....makes sense to me.

GBR

 

[Mack In Motion]

I can't stand Harbaugh.

But here's what the entire SEC doesn't get:

They're all being played by Harbaugh. Every time one of them goes off, brings it up, says he should or shouldn't be doing this or that, he is getting EXACTLY what he wanted from this: exposure in their backyard.

I guarantee you nothing would make him happier than to have every coach and administrator in that conference continue to ***** about him going down there for the next 12 months leading up to him going down there again and kicking next spring break off with a Ronda Rousey vs. Conor McGregor exhibition or something of the sort.

He's the PT Barnum/Donald Trump of college football. He doesn't care WHAT is being said so long as it keeps him and his program in the spotlight. And he's got people dancing like puppets for him.

 

[Blackshirt316]

Wow...that might be the best post I've seen in years Ellobo. I don't know if our nice guy coach has he stones or not (not trying to be rude...just saying). Then again I don't see him coaching for more than 5-7 years no matter how good or bad he does so why not...

I'm sure our players would be amped up for this. one spring go to FL for a week, the next CA, and the next TX....makes sense to me.

GBR

Hilarious. You do realize that our "nice guy coach" is the guy who's staff came up with the whole satelite camp thing in the first place right?

Riley started doing satelite camps in 2012 and by 2014 had run camps in SoCal, Norcal, Dallas and Houston. We held one in Florida last year and I bet we run one in Houston soon.

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_state_beavers_oregon_du.html

Riley was smart about it though. He would play the long game, build relationships in those areas with highschools, invite mostly junior and sophmore kids and not piss off the local coaches. The problem is unlike Riley, Harbaugh is an idiot who only understands the short game. He has to make a bunch of noise , be a bully, piss everyone off and in the process -sure maybe he makes a slash in 2016 but in the long term he ruins the party for everyone going forward.

At this point I'm just waiting for Jim Harbaugh to announce he plans to build a wall around the state of Michigan and will make Ohio pay for it.

 

[jay-cheese]

Hmmm. I could've swore this thread was about taking your team off campus for spring ball, not satellite camps. Perhaps you missed the main point of contention...

Hey if I guy isn't smart by having a winning record, then I certainly don't consider a losing coach to be "smart" (even if he/she is a mensa member). I didn't create Riley's nice guy moniker-which you obviously misconstrued. I'm glad you like the guy (I like him too!!). Perhaps your reading comprehension could use an upgrade as your response went 0-2 in missing what I was saying....as well as your presidential election analogy is pretty distant in terms of relevancy to this OP as well.

You have every right to your own opinion on Harbaugh. I don't like him either but his no caring demeanor towards the SEC is a nice turnaround of fair play against a conference that clearly plays by it's own rules (being nice or not about it....).

GBR

 

[balsy]

Hmmm. I could've swore this thread was about taking your team off campus for spring ball, not satellite camps. Perhaps you missed the main point of contention...

Hey if I guy isn't smart by having a winning record, then I certainly don't consider a losing coach to be "smart" (even if he/she is a mensa member). I didn't create Riley's nice guy moniker-which you obviously misconstrued. I'm glad you like the guy (I like him too!!). Perhaps your reading comprehension could use an upgrade as your response went 0-2 in missing what I was saying....as well as your presidential election analogy is pretty distant in terms of relevancy to this OP as well.

You have every right to your own opinion on Harbaugh. I don't like him either but his no caring demeanor towards the SEC is a nice turnaround of fair play against a conference that clearly plays by it's own rules (being nice or not about it....).

GBR

You won't be able to do this next year, anyway. They will throw the 'welfare of the student athlete' thing around and get a ncaa rule against it. It won't just be the sec that doesn't like it and wants it gone. Jmo

 

[Hoosker Du]

Hmmm. I could've swore this thread was about taking your team off campus for spring ball, not satellite camps. Perhaps you missed the main point of contention...

Hey if I guy isn't smart by having a winning record, then I certainly don't consider a losing coach to be "smart" (even if he/she is a mensa member). I didn't create Riley's nice guy moniker-which you obviously misconstrued. I'm glad you like the guy (I like him too!!). Perhaps your reading comprehension could use an upgrade as your response went 0-2 in missing what I was saying....as well as your presidential election analogy is pretty distant in terms of relevancy to this OP as well.

You have every right to your own opinion on Harbaugh. I don't like him either but his no caring demeanor towards the SEC is a nice turnaround of fair play against a conference that clearly plays by it's own rules (being nice or not about it....).

GBR

I think the point is...the idea of having any sort of activity that increases exposure for a program in the South was done by Riley 4 years ago. I definitely think Harbaugh got the idea from other coaches' lead. Not sure if Riley was the first to do it, but he definitely isn't lagging behind in terms of ways to tap into the South.

I believe our camps last year were in Georgia(Atlanta), Florida (not sure where), Houston (got cancelled because of weather, I believe), and California (LA).

 

[ellobo_rivals188748]

You won't be able to do this next year, anyway. They will throw the 'welfare of the student athlete' thing around and get a ncaa rule against it. It won't just be the sec that doesn't like it and wants it gone. Jmo

Before the trip started I was 99.9% convinced that this would be one time thing also. However, the narrative in the media has been the exact opposite of what the SEC and NCAA were hoping for. The kids are loving it and so far (knock on wood) Michigan and the players have done this 100% clean. There are already rumors floating around, from reliable sources, that a handful of other schools have put out feelers to locations for next year (including at least one big name school).

Now here is something to look out for...this whole thing has been planned out more than you might think. Because Michigan is starting a week early and a week of it is while they are not in class, Michigan has decided to go straight through on its practice schedule instead of giving the players periodic breaks. The reason for this is that means spring practice will end a good couple weeks before finals instead of running through it. This doesn't guarantee the kids take advantage of it but the hope is that the program can further kill "the welfare of the student-athlete" argument by showing an uptick on team GPA.

Everything about this has been orchestrated. Do you think the dozen or so times Harbaugh has mentioned how he is giving his team a "SOBER" spring break hasn't been intentional? Do you think Harbaugh has made every single practice open to the media (so they can see the kids having fun) out of the kindness of his heart? I mean come on, this is a guy who is notorious for giving the media almost zero access ever. I can go on with some of the tactics they are using but the overall strategy, all along, has been to build a case against "the welfare of the student-athlete" argument. We'll see if it works and/or if the NCAA comes up with another argument to kill future trips.

P.S.
I don't know for sure...but speaking of this thread...I don't think the fact that Harbaugh responded (on twitter) to the one coach whose school is involved in a rape scandal and not the other two who started the whole twitter conversation was exactly a random decision.

 

[nwualum_rivals330058]

I am curious as to what most players would say. It's one thing to spend a week in Florida, etc. It's a completely separate thing to say we're not letting you go home for spring break as we are practicing instead. I'm guessing the players may be split on this, depending on how far they live from home, their home life, past travel to these places, etc.

 

[ellobo_rivals188748]

I think the point is...the idea of having any sort of activity that increases exposure for a program in the South was done by Riley 4 years ago. I definitely think Harbaugh got the idea from other coaches' lead. Not sure if Riley was the first to do it, but he definitely isn't lagging behind in terms of ways to tap into the South.

I believe our camps last year were in Georgia(Atlanta), Florida (not sure where), Houston (got cancelled because of weather, I believe), and California (LA).

Yeah, Harbaugh didn't come up with the concept of satellite camps...he just took the whole thing to a higher level. But what I think the poster saying the whole thing about "long game vs. short game" is missing is that the long game in CFB is just a series of short games...and in this game the 1st quarter is as important as the 4th. Coaches (at schools like ours) don't have 10 years to build up a program and what you do in year one and two is going to determine where your program is in years 4 and 5 (yeah I know that is an obvious statement to most on this board)...literally as in the games you win or lose then will be because of the battles you win or lose in recruiting now...if a coach is hoping that his efforts (overall) in "building relationships" finally pays of with some recruiting wins 5 years from now...well they aren't going to last very long.

 

[hddude55]

I am curious as to what most players would say. It's one thing to spend a week in Florida, etc. It's a completely separate thing to say we're not letting you go home for spring break as we are practicing instead. I'm guessing the players may be split on this, depending on how far they live from home, their home life, past travel to these places, etc.

You may have heard Riley raise this concern when asked severals days ago. As he noted, the coaches have the players under their control for almost the entire academic year as it is.

 

[ellobo_rivals188748]

I am curious as to what most players would say. It's one thing to spend a week in Florida, etc. It's a completely separate thing to say we're not letting you go home for spring break as we are practicing instead. I'm guessing the players may be split on this, depending on how far they live from home, their home life, past travel to these places, etc.

I can only speak to the reaction of the Michigan players...they aren't split at all. The vast majority said they'd basically be hanging out in their rooms all week if not for this...well that and going to their "voluntary" S&C sessions.

 

[gw2kpro]

It's interesting to me that for decades, other collegiate sports have held practices and competitions over spring break. Offsite even.

But as soon as Harbaugh does it in a high profile manner, it becomes taboo.

The NCAA is going to have to cancel a whole lot more than football spring break practice if that time frame suddenly becomes off limits for college practice and competition.

 

[huskat]

It's interesting to me that for decades, other collegiate sports have held practices and competitions over spring break. Offsite even.

But as soon as Harbaugh does it in a high profile manner, it becomes taboo.

The NCAA is going to have to cancel a whole lot more than football spring break practice if that time frame suddenly becomes off limits for college practice and competition.

Curious, which sports have held off-season practices and competitions over spring break for decades?

 

[gw2kpro]

Don't have a comprehensive list but softball and tennis for certain. My wife played tennis in college and was always somewhere over spring break. Honestly, until the SEC started crying about it, I didn't know there was any issue with college athletes practicing over spring break.

 

[NECoach31BB]

Tennis and softball are spring sports for the NCAA. They will travel having games and practices in the spring. Not off season sports.

 

[ellobo_rivals188748]

Don't have a comprehensive list but softball and tennis for certain. My wife played tennis in college and was always somewhere over spring break. Honestly, until the SEC started crying about it, I didn't know there was any issue with college athletes practicing over spring break.

I think his point was the "off season" part. The NCAA is going to have to skirt some issues especially the fact that FB players don't get a Thanksgiving or Christmas break while pulling in millions of dollars for their schools. My guess is they are actually going to spin this argument to say because that is a necessary part of the equation, because it is "in-season," it thus becomes even more critical to protect personal time "off season."

Now what has already come into the discussion is the summer basketball trips. They have now been restricted to once every four years (per school) because they didn't quite become the "educational" experience they were "intended" to be. However, while I am not 100% sure, just going by the length of them it could mean those kids wouldn't be able to take summer classes (which taking summer classes I know is now the norm for at least football players)...and if you have kids going on what was originally intended as an educational experience not doing anything educational...and missing out on the chance to take summer classes...well...all I can say is this will certainly be entertaining...

 

[Hoosker Du]

Yeah, Harbaugh didn't come up with the concept of satellite camps...he just took the whole thing to a higher level. But what I think the poster saying the whole thing about "long game vs. short game" is missing is that the long game in CFB is just a series of short games...and in this game the 1st quarter is as important as the 4th. Coaches (at schools like ours) don't have 10 years to build up a program and what you do in year one and two is going to determine where your program is in years 4 and 5 (yeah I know that is an obvious statement to most on this board)...literally as in the games you win or lose then will be because of the battles you win or lose in recruiting now...if a coach is hoping that his efforts (overall) in "building relationships" finally pays of with some recruiting wins 5 years from now...well they aren't going to last very long.

I can't imagine any coach in college football thinking they have 5 years to get their recruiting in order. That is complacency beyond the level of even Frank Solich.