Benet Hangin tough against JCA sounds impressive

pjjp

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Benet 24 JCA 21....Final

Congrats to the Redwings. They bottled up JC's running game and executed a balanced offensive game plan.
 

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This puts the ESCC crown into play next week. Dons finish up at home with CoM and JCA finishes up hosting Marist. Interesting.
 

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I thought the Hilltoppers would possibly stumble next week as they heal.
7-2 or 8-1 entering the playoffs with a few guys returning and they will go far.
Congratulations to Benet for the win, the score could have been worse.
 
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jobare56

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That is not the same JCA team I saw against Providence. Looked like they were on sleeping pills.
 

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Some may say next week's game against Marist is not important....in terms of playoff implications. I can see their point. However, it's important to re-establish their identity, IMO. I agree....they looked listless and disinterested in yesterday's game. They haven't run the ball or played decent defense in 6 straight quarters. Marist just gave up 62 points to Naz. If the Hilltoppers come out and struggle offensively, it does not bode well for the playoffs. Also, you have to expect Marist to have success against what has become a suspect defense. Re-establishing their identity as a running team would be nice, as well as tackling and defending the pass. The loss should be a wakeup call. If it's not, they have some serious issues.
 

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They need to heal.
Missing key OL players last night is likely a big part of the poor execution.
One OL player who was out rotates in on the DL
The star quality MLB was out.
All of whom will be back come playoffs where there will be plenty of time to reclaim their identity.
What was most concerning to me was the poor execution in the passing game.
All of that and they lost by 3 points.
 
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They need to heal.
Missing key OL players last night is likely a big part of the poor execution.
One OL player who was out rotates in on the DL
The star quality MLB was out.
All of whom will be back come playoffs where there will be plenty of time to reclaim their identity.
What was most concerning to me was the poor execution in the passing game.
All of that and they lost by 3 points.

Nobody picked this as there upset of the week.
 

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Even if Marist beats them I am just not seeing anybody in that lower bracket that has a prayer vs them. Probably only a replay With Naz is a game they could lose in 5A with Montini SHG bumped
 

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I thought Joliet Catholic's defense played pretty well last night, all things considered. The offense concerns me. Joliet Catholic's turnovers occurred in the second half. They were not effective in the running game in the first half. I know it's not unusual for teams to play 8 or 9 in the box against Joliet Catholic, but for some reason Benet did a good job of figuring out where the running back was going and filling that gap. I know people in the crowd were critical of the running back for dancing and not running north and south last night, but I think the holes that are usually there for those plays were not there and he had nowhere to go. I wonder if those of you who watched the game who have a good grasp of Xs and Os saw anything in Benet's defense that told you they had figured out the Hilltoppers' rushing attack. If Benet did, then other teams will too and I wonder if Coach Sharp might need to add some new wrinkles to the rushing attack to get it going again (e.g. spreading the field to get some of those defenders out of the box). If Joliet Catholic becomes a one-dimensional passing team, it's not making it to DeKalb this year.
 

jobare56

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I thought Joliet Catholic's defense played pretty well last night, all things considered. The offense concerns me. Joliet Catholic's turnovers occurred in the second half. They were not effective in the running game in the first half. I know it's not unusual for teams to play 8 or 9 in the box against Joliet Catholic, but for some reason Benet did a good job of figuring out where the running back was going and filling that gap. I know people in the crowd were critical of the running back for dancing and not running north and south last night, but I think the holes that are usually there for those plays were not there and he had nowhere to go. I wonder if those of you who watched the game who have a good grasp of Xs and Os saw anything in Benet's defense that told you they had figured out the Hilltoppers' rushing attack. If Benet did, then other teams will too and I wonder if Coach Sharp might need to add some new wrinkles to the rushing attack to get it going again (e.g. spreading the field to get some of those defenders out of the box). If Joliet Catholic becomes a one-dimensional passing team, it's not making it to DeKalb this year.
Any play will work if the blocking is there. JCA missed a lot of blocks. Seems more mental than physical.
 

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I finally got to watch the whole game and I'll give Benet a tip of the hat as they won the game rather than as some would infer JCA lost the game.
In watching the Benet/JCA game in total on The Cube, despit what some posted, Benet rarely had 9 in the box. 1st half almost all 4x4 stack second half mostly 3 man front with 4 Lbs and a safety coming down sometimes. Benet's offense in the first half was mostly quick game in a hurry up no huddle at a pace that kept the JCA DLine tired and with their hands on their hips looking for air.
Benet's scheme forced JCA into a passing offense in the second half with which they were not comfortable. Had the Benet offense not put the ball on the turf a few times, its likely they could have salted this game away earlier. Is this doom for JCA? I doubt it, in fact I tend to think this will make them more dangerous in the playoffs because they now know where they are vulnerable and have time to fix it. Good luck to both teams going forward into the playoffs!
 

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On a slightly different note, I attended the Benet/JCA freshmen game on Saturday. I was impressed by the numbers (especially in today's climate) and overall talent of both teams. Both schools had big crowds for the game as well. Football seems to be a higher priority at Benet than it once was.
 

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PJJP,

Don't leave us hangin, who won?

On a slightly different note, I attended the Benet/JCA freshmen game on Saturday. I was impressed by the numbers (especially in today's climate) and overall talent of both teams. Both schools had big crowds for the game as well. Football seems to be a higher priority at Benet than it once was.
 

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Any play will work if the blocking is there. JCA missed a lot of blocks.

"There's nothing spectacular about it. Psst, I guess it depends on who you've got drawing up the plays and who you've got running them." - Lombardi on the power sweep.
 

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Sorry jobare for giving the whole quote to you. Any way, your post reminded me of what Vince Lombardi said when someone asked him why the Packer Sweep was so successful.
 

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The Beent D line did dominate against the run. Controlled gaps and effectively run blitzed. Benet's DT #50 gave the JCA O line fits all night on run plays. Not a ton of pressure when JCA passed. O line did a nice job both in the run and pass. When Benet went with there big 2 RB package. The running game was very effective.

I was surprised how soft JCA's DBs played. Benet was without there #1 WR. Benet receivers were open all night. Snzjader looked very comfortable with the short passing game
 

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IMO--Penalties are JCA's #1 issue this year. Followed by the injuries. Giving up 100 yards a game in penalties is a killer and JCA has been fortunate to have lost only 1 game with all the penalties they have had.

As for the injuries, IF they get everyone back and can stay healthy it will be hard to keep them out of DeKalb no matter whom they would have to play to get there.

However, it is a big IF for both!!
 

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IMO--Penalties are JCA's #1 issue this year. Followed by the injuries. Giving up 100 yards a game in penalties is a killer and JCA has been fortunate to have lost only 1 game with all the penalties they have had.

As for the injuries, IF they get everyone back and can stay healthy it will be hard to keep them out of DeKalb no matter whom they would have to play to get there.

However, it is a big IF for both!!
With no Griffin or Montini-This championship could seem a little hollow for whomever wins it.
 

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5A will be much better if LWW slips down there. If they applied SF properly though across the board, Rochester should be 5A also and Montini should be actually be there. SHG should be only team bumped for winning last 2 seasons.
 

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5A will be much better if LWW slips down there. If they applied SF properly though across the board, Rochester should be 5A also and Montini should be actually be there. SHG should be only team bumped for winning last 2 seasons.
How isn't Rochester not bumped up?
 

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You can only play whom is in the class. Kids don't care as there is no control as to who is in/out.
 

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Best game I saw all year. JCA won 27-24. Benet has a nice QB, some nice skills and a big, effective O-line. They hit on defense as well.
Thr night I will be at JC-Marist frosh game. Marist is 8-0 and has beaten most everyone by 3 TDs or more. Week 1 was closest game v MC a 27-14 game which I saw 2nd half of.
 

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ch02st,

Trent had a great game, especially second half when they went to a 3 man front. But to say the Dline dominated is not accurate. Had they dominated the game would have been filled with Tackles for loss and it wasn't. They did a hell of a job containing the run and forcing the pass which is a HUGE accomplishment! The quick tempo and Quick game offense Benet came with neutralized the big bodies of JCA and gave Jack time to pass, and the run game worked when needed because the pass game kept the JCA LBs and DBs on their heels rather than coming down hill. Had Benet kept the pace they played with in the second half the outcome could have been even more lopsided. Again tip of the hat to Benet on a solid game plan.

The Beent D line did dominate against the run. Controlled gaps and effectively run blitzed. Benet's DT #50 gave the JCA O line fits all night on run plays. Not a ton of pressure when JCA passed. O line did a nice job both in the run and pass. When Benet went with there big 2 RB package. The running game was very effective.

I was surprised how soft JCA's DBs played. Benet was without there #1 WR. Benet receivers were open all night. Snzjader looked very comfortable with the short passing game
 

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ch02st,

Trent had a great game, especially second half when they went to a 3 man front. But to say the Dline dominated is not accurate. Had they dominated the game would have been filled with Tackles for loss and it wasn't. They did a hell of a job containing the run and forcing the pass which is a HUGE accomplishment! The quick tempo and Quick game offense Benet came with neutralized the big bodies of JCA and gave Jack time to pass, and the run game worked when needed because the pass game kept the JCA LBs and DBs on their heels rather than coming down hill. Had Benet kept the pace they played with in the second half the outcome could have been even more lopsided. Again tip of the hat to Benet on a solid game plan.

If I'm JCA against Marist, I keep the guys coming back from injury out of the game and let them heal another week. Then, if they lose and go 7-2 they can see where they are positioned in the brackets. That then dictates whether they let the guys rest another week. IHSA is NOT going to separate JCA, NAZ, and MCC into different brackets. And if LWW drops to 5A, then LWW will go south and JCA, NAZ and MCC will all be in the north. Last thing IHSA wants is an all ESCC final in DeKalb.
 
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pjjp

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Thr night I will be at JC-Marist frosh game. Marist is 8-0 and has beaten most everyone by 3 TDs or more. Week 1 was closest game v MC a 27-14 game which I saw 2nd half of.

I like this JC freshmen team, but it will be a tall order to hang with Marist. They got one of their better RB's back either this week or last. Their team has improved a lot, since I saw them earlier in the year. Watch for (#27), the injured RB who has returned, and #32. #32 reminds me of a young Joe Benson with his size and speed combination.

BTW....Dean...per the ESCC website, I see St. Laurence beat Benet on the Frosh and Soph levels in Week 1. Benet normally has very competitive lower level teams. That tells me St. Laurence is more than a one-class wonder (the current Jrs.). Harold Blackmon is getting it done. They have some very nice wins this year. I agree that they could make some definite noise in 5A...depending on their draw. Next year? I see why you are touting them as 5A title contenders (maybe the favorites). Their current Jrs. appear to have help on the way in the soph and frosh classes.