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They aren't? Not sure about that.

They're certainly better than the Chiefs.
Huh, these 2 teams are better than the Chiefs? What are you smokin tonight?

Like I said before, I’m not saying the Bengals will win, but these teams are beatable and the Chiefs are definitely better than both.

The Chiefs are better than the Bengals if we’re all being honest, we just somehow find a way to win against them.
 
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Both LA and SF have elite pass rushers than can crumble Joe. We've got to execute on 1st down better to win the Super Bowl. Mixon up the middle for 1 yard is not going to work.

I was gonna say, two of the NFLs best front 7s. LA for sure.

But hey, on the other end.. Cincy defense should have an easier day without Mahomes/Kelce/Hill..
 
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Huh, there 2 teams are better than the Chiefs? What are you smokin tonight?

Like I said before, I’m not saying the Bengals will win, but these teams are beatable and the Chiefs are definitely better than both.

The Chiefs are better than the Bengals if we’re all being honest, we just somehow find a way to win against them.
Chiefs are a better football team than LA or SF but I think he was talking about Defensive lines where both SF and LA are FAR better than KC. Going to be a fierce pass rush on Joe no matter which we play.
 
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Yeah just on the defensive side of the ball.

Although hard to say who is better overall, Rams or Chiefs. That's not a clear cut pick.
 

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I worry about the Bengals O-line against either of these teams.. but no one picked them to win today, either.

I picked them to win, and almost nailed it. :)

Burrow will have 300 passing yards and Mixon, Uzomah, and McPherson will also have great games.
The Bengals defense will take the ball from Kansas City at least twice.

Cincy 30
KC 24

Go Bengals. :)

Actuals:

Burrow: 250 passing yards
Mixon: 21 touches, 88 yards; 3 receptions, 27 yards
Uzomah: hope he's OK. :(
McPherson: 1/1 XP; 4/4 FG
Defense: two takeaways, by Hill and Bell

Cincy 27
KC 24

Go Bengals. :)
 

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Chiefs are a better football team than LA or SF but I think he was talking about Defensive lines where both SF and LA are FAR better than KC. Going to be a fierce pass rush on Joe no matter which we play.
Fair enough. Titans were pretty darn good on the D line as well. Bengals have a weakness there that has been and will continue to be exposed. They’ve won thus far despite that. Let’s see if they can do it one more time…
 
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I picked them to win, and almost nailed it. :)



Actuals:

Burrow: 250 passing yards
Mixon: 21 touches, 88 yards; 3 receptions, 27 yards
Uzomah: hope he's OK. :(
McPherson: 1/1 XP; 4/4 FG
Defense: two takeaways, by Hill and Bell

Go Bengals. :)
Good Job. On the pregame shows I saw quite a few people picking the Bengals which surprised me.

I thought they were toast. If I wasn't Bengals fan I'd have lost a lot of money on this one as I thought Kansas City -7 opening was a steal and so did everyone else as it got betted up to 7.5.
 
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Urban Meyer looks like a genius. Had Joe Burrow on the bench in favor of Dwayne Haskins. He leaves Urban and wins the Heisman, leads LSU (perhaps the best team of all-time) to a national championship, and has now taken the Bengals to the Super Bowl and all of this happened the last few years.
 

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Good Job. On the pregame shows I saw quite a few people picking the Bengals which surprised me.

I thought they were toast. If I wasn't Bengals fan I'd have lost a lot of money on this one as I thought Kansas City -7 opening was a steal and so did everyone else as it got betted up to 7.5.

Read an article a few days ago about a guy who put 211k on the chiefs to cover.

He’s having a bad night…
 

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Urban Meyer looks like a genius. Had Joe Burrow on the bench in favor of Dwayne Haskins. He leaves Urban and wins the Heisman, leads LSU (perhaps the best team of all-time) to a national championship, and has now taken the Bengals to the Super Bowl and all of this happened the last few years.
We've already established the Bengals need to hit Meyer. We don't need our arms twisted anymore.
 

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Huh, these 2 teams are better than the Chiefs? What are you smokin tonight?

Like I said before, I’m not saying the Bengals will win, but these teams are beatable and the Chiefs are definitely better than both.

The Chiefs are better than the Bengals if we’re all being honest, we just somehow find a way to win against them.
We beat them two times in a month and you still think KC is better? The Chiefs have one edge, and that’s the O-line. In every other facet and position, the Bengals are better. How much more proof do you need?
 

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Exactly. How often did Brady’s Patriots have high draft picks in their dynasty? Or Manning’s Colts? Chiefs haven’t had a high draft pick since they got Mahomes. This is NOT an issue.
We have the skill players in place. Now we need to get the guys who get dirty in the trenches. Don’t need a top 5 pick to do that!
 
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It feels like the Chiefs abandoned the run game in the second half. At the least, they didn’t use it as much as they should because they were killing Cincy with it. This, combined with the Bengals pass rush finally coming alive in the second half, ended up being a recipe for disaster.

And speaking of disaster, how about the KC play calling/execution to end both halves? Ending the first half with no points after getting so close to the goal line. Then at the end of the 4th, they were clearly more worried about milking the clock than getting across the goal line.
 

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It feels like the Chiefs abandoned the run game in the second half. At the least, they didn’t use it as much as they should because they were killing Cincy with it. This, combined with the Bengals pass rush finally coming alive in the second half, ended up being a recipe for disaster.

And speaking of disaster, how about the KC play calling/execution to end both halves? Ending the first half with no points after getting so close to the goal line. Then at the end of the 4th, they were clearly more worried about milking the clock than getting across the goal line.

This was definitely a combination of the Bengals stepping up and the Chiefs choking. Despite the Bengals solid play in the 2nd half, Chiefs still win if they don’t fall apart like they did.

That said, wtf were the Bengals thinking running a 3 man rush in the first half? Dumbest **** I’ve seen in football. Maybe we don’t go down 21-3 if we run the normal aggressive defense.
 

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Also, Bengals proved that the NFL’s overtime is fine and doesn’t need changed. Man up, play some defense, get a stop.
 
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It feels like the Chiefs abandoned the run game in the second half. At the least, they didn’t use it as much as they should because they were killing Cincy with it. This, combined with the Bengals pass rush finally coming alive in the second half, ended up being a recipe for disaster.

And speaking of disaster, how about the KC play calling/execution to end both halves? Ending the first half with no points after getting so close to the goal line. Then at the end of the 4th, they were clearly more worried about milking the clock than getting across the goal line.
Made absolutely no sense at the end of either half. I also had no idea why the announcers seemed to be complete idiots in terms of suggestions. 😂

You’re down 3. It’s not a tied game. Try to score a TD and don’t worry about the clock. This isn’t the Pats/Giants Super Bowl where the Pats had to let them score so they couldn’t finish the game on a field goal without a chance to tie.
 

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Just imagine what Cincy's going to be able to do with an offensive line that doesn't allow three sacks a game for a loss of 22 yards/game.
They can win giving up 9 sacks and they can win giving up just 1.

NFL Network has been all over these Rams since last night but they still have to play the game. I like the Bengals chances since they're a second half team with a never-say-die attitude.
 
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Also, Bengals proved that the NFL’s overtime is fine and doesn’t need changed. Man up, play some defense, get a stop.
Just because it worked out like that doesn’t mean it’s fine. Both teams should get a possession. It shouldn’t come down to the result of a coin flip. I’m not a bengals fan but I would’ve been very disturbed if burrow never had a chance at seeing the ball after his final drive.
 

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No. This is the NFL, not the Big 12. Defense is part of the game. Get a stop or STFU.
Except in this format defense is only a part of the game for one team. The team that wins the coin flip has won 60% of the time historically and in the playoffs with good offenses it is largely skewed in favor of the coin toss winner. Why would a critical sporting event rely so heavily on the luck of the flip of a coin?
 
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When Nance said the coin-flip winner is 10-1 in POSTSEASON overtime, I didn't care because of the way the defense was playing in the second half. Football is a 60-75 minute game. A war of attrition. That's what makes it so great!
 

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They can win giving up 9 sacks and they can win giving up just 1.
I don't even look at the sacks really in terms of winning or losing the game, I am talking about Joe's career and keeping him healthy. He's probably already lost 3-5 years off the top of his career with that first injury. These beatings add up.
 
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I don't even look at the sacks really in terms of winning or losing the game, I am talking about Joe's career and keeping him healthy. He's probably already lost 3-5 years off the top of his career with that first injury. These beatings add up.
I think those shots in your 20's, and given modern medicine, it's not as bad as you think. But they better protect the **** out of Burrow from here on out, cap out if necessary, to keep him protected, healthy, and in the pocket long enough to find the open receiver.
 
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I don't even look at the sacks really in terms of winning or losing the game, I am talking about Joe's career and keeping him healthy. He's probably already lost 3-5 years off the top of his career with that first injury. These beatings add up.
Tom Brady had a torn ACL 14 years ago and barely missed any time even into his mid-40s. I don’t think the ACL is as career impacting as a recurring shoulder injury or other more wear and tear related impacts.
 
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Tom Brady had a torn ACL 14 years ago and barely missed any time even into his mid-40s. I don’t think the ACL is as career impacting as a recurring shoulder injury or other more wear and tear related impacts.
Being the most sacked QB in the league the year after a torn ACL topped off by a 9 sack beating in one playoff game is not something Brady ever endured.

We're where we are because of Burrow but he can't keep this up and the worst may yet to come when our 30th ranked pass block win rate meets the NFL's #1 pass rush win rate. We must spend whatever it takes this offseason and cross our fingers and pray for his safety in the SB.
 

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Being the most sacked QB in the league the year after a torn ACL topped off by a 9 sack beating in one playoff game is not something Brady ever endured.

We're where we are because of Burrow but he can't keep this up and the worst may yet to come when our 30th ranked pass block win rate meets the NFL's #1 pass rush win rate. We must spend whatever it takes this offseason and cross our fingers and pray for his safety in the SB.
I agree with everything you’re saying except that burrow’s prior injury will shorten his career. Yes, he cannot survive year after year of getting destroyed like that. But you’d think the bengals would invest heavily in their OLine next year and beyond.
 
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Being the most sacked QB in the league the year after a torn ACL topped off by a 9 sack beating in one playoff game is not something Brady ever endured.

We're where we are because of Burrow but he can't keep this up and the worst may yet to come when our 30th ranked pass block win rate meets the NFL's #1 pass rush win rate. We must spend whatever it takes this offseason and cross our fingers and pray for his safety in the SB.
Back off the drama, buddy. We had a chance to take Burrow’s teammate and biggest weapon. That turned out to be the perfect pick and will pay dividends for the next 10-12 years. Now the Bengals hierarchy can focus mostly on addressing our O-line needs. The upcoming draft is loaded with O-line talent, and Cincy has suddenly become an attractive destination for free agents. The Bengals are the darlings of the league right now, and we have a young coach that the players love. We’re in the Super Bowl after going 6-26 the previous two years, and we’re talking about having only one real weakness as a team — which we will soon address. Try to find something to be happy about.
 
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Dude's a trip man, love it when he posts. He started a thread wanting Zac Taylor fired for Urban Meyer of all people. All his posts revolve around three things:

Zac Taylor sucks
The offensive line sucks
They should call more play action passes.

I swear you could stick a quarter in him and pull his arm and he'd regurgitate the same **** over and over.
 

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I don't even look at the sacks really in terms of winning or losing the game, I am talking about Joe's career and keeping him healthy. He's probably already lost 3-5 years off the top of his career with that first injury. These beatings add up.
 

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It would appear the rabble is bubbling to the surface in this thread like swine feces in a lava tube.

Look, the Bengals need three things:

1) Urban to replace Boy Blunder before his awful play calling ruins us. Preferably before the Super Bowl. Have a van pull up and whisk him out of the country then just have Urban walk in with his laser pointer and get to work.
2) The O-LIne is an unaddressed massive failure and may cost us the future of our QB before we can fix it.
3) We're not doing enough play action passes on 1st down which is putting Joe in obvious passing situations and letting the other team tee off on our lousy incompetent protection while our naive young foolish coach wistfully smiles at his clipboard and thanks god for the massively undeserved paycheck he is getting from the stingy Brown family.

BTW, Tom Brady bringing the New England play action and short passing game to Tampa Bay is what won them the Super Bowl. Literally. We struggle to protect Joe in 2nd and long and 3rd down so it is imperative we win more on 1st down with play action passes which feature quick slants behind the linebackers and screen passes to slow down their rush. The screens and slants we're currently running are not nearly as effective in 2nd and 3rd and long as they are on 1st and 10 with play action to freeze the LB.

I also like Joe in that empty backfield look so mix in more no huddle and use that look when you do.

My perfect beginning to the Super Bowl for us is for Joe to get under center for our 1st drive and on the 1st play run a play action slant to Chase for 15 yards. Then immediately go to the line in no huddle with an empty backfield and march right down the field in no huddle/empty backfield for an opening TD.

Discuss amongst yourselves.
 
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Urban is the same coach that played Duane Haskins in front of Burrow. Maybe If we get him in time he’ll play Brandon Allen in the super bowl.
 
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Back off the drama, buddy. We had a chance to take Burrow’s teammate and biggest weapon. That turned out to be the perfect pick and will pay dividends for the next 10-12 years. Now the Bengals hierarchy can focus mostly on addressing our O-line needs. The upcoming draft is loaded with O-line talent, and Cincy has suddenly become an attractive destination for free agents. The Bengals are the darlings of the league right now, and we have a young coach that the players love. We’re in the Super Bowl after going 6-26 the previous two years, and we’re talking about having only one real weakness as a team — which we will soon address. Try to find something to be happy about.
I was against the Chase pick initially. Wanted Sewell. Slater could’ve been had later. But Chase was the right choice and that’s been proven. He’s a star. They can now focus on o-line from here on out.

Pretty concerned about how to handle the Rams pass rush. They have two weeks to come up with an offensive scheme to battle that. I don’t know what that entails. Quick routs and screens?
 

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Offensively,

I was against the Chase pick initially. Wanted Sewell. Slater could’ve been had later. But Chase was the right choice and that’s been proven. He’s a star. They can now focus on o-line from here on out.

Pretty concerned about how to handle the Rams pass rush. They have two weeks to come up with an offensive scheme to battle that. I don’t know what that entails. Quick routs and screens?
The most amazing thing about this post season run is, Joe has been average. Chase has been average. Mixon has been average. We haven’t lit up the scoreboard. No huge numbers by Joe, or Chase, or any of our other weapons. None of our offensive numbers stand out. Except when it’s winning time. Yes, the Rams pass rush is a huge concern, but it’s not as if we haven’t had this concern before. I expect us to struggle with Donald and Co., but I also expect us to grind it out offensively and be the defense we’ve seen the entire postseason. At the end, I expect Joe to put us in position to win. And if it comes down to a kick by Money McPherson, we win.
 

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Prior to the draft I posted extensively about trading down and taking Rashawn Slater plus getting a couple of 3rds and a 2nd along with that. Slater is a pro bowl starter already for the Chargers. While Chase is clearly a superstar, I still think I was right and that Slater and those later picks would have been better for our long term success but you just can't argue against Chase right now so while I was clearly spot on in wanting Slater and draft picks over Sewell and Chase, I can live with Chase certainly.