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rudad02

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Mine is Jim Taylor of 60's Packers. Great football player--punishing runner, excellent receiver out of the backfield & just a devastating blocker.
Contemporary of Jim Browns. Always thought he was better than Brown. Taylor usually finished just behind Brown in yards gained per season except for one year when he finished 1st. Don't remember if Brown caught the ball out of the backfield, but what really separated them was that Taylor was a great blocker while Brown wouldn't block--not couldn't block but wouldn't block.

And for those that remember the Packer sweep, was that something or what! Guards Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy Thurston; Tackle Forest Greg; tight end Ron Kramer & backs Taylor & Horning coming around end. Forget about trying to stop that.
 
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rudad02 said:
Mine is Jim Taylor of 60's Packers. Great football player--punishing runner, excellent receiver out of the backfield & just a devastating blocker.
Contemporary of Jim Browns. Always thought he was better than Brown. Taylor usually finished just behind Brown in yards gained per season except for one year when he finished 1st. Don't remember that Brown caught the ball out of the backfield, but what really separated them was that Taylor was a great blocker while Brown wouldn't block--not couldn't block but wouldn't block.

And for those that remember the Packer sweep, was that something or what! Guards Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy Thurston; Tackle Forest Greg; tight end Ron Kramer & backs Taylor & Horning coming around end. Forget about trying to stop that.
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The Packer power sweep was the forerunner of the outside zone blocking schemes widely in college and the NFL today. For all that is written about Lombardi's old school ways, he was 3 decades ahead of his time with his "run to daylight" philosophy in the running game.
 
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Wasn't Jim Brown a fullback? #44

Has to be him.. right? If not him I'd have to go with Csonka or Alstott or Riggins.
 
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Mo Carthon ran for 1,000 yards the same year that his backfield mate Herschel Walker lead the league with 1,400.

He was a stud and went on to win 2 SBs with the Giants.

But Mike Alstott was the best. I think that he’s nominated for the HOF this next year.
 
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rudad02 said:
Mine is Jim Taylor of 60's Packers. Great football player--punishing runner, excellent receiver out of the backfield & just a devastating blocker.
Contemporary of Jim Browns. Always thought he was better than Brown. Taylor usually finished just behind Brown in yards gained per season except for one year when he finished 1st. Don't remember if Brown caught the ball out of the backfield, but what really separated them was that Taylor was a great blocker while Brown wouldn't block--not couldn't block but wouldn't block.

And for those that remember the Packer sweep, was that something or what! Guards Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy Thurston; Tackle Forest Greg; tight end Ron Kramer & backs Taylor & Horning coming around end. Forget about trying to stop that.
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William Floyd would be my pick.
 
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LotusAggressor said:
The Packer power sweep was the forerunner of the outside zone blocking schemes widely in college and the NFL today. For all that is written about Lombardi's old school ways, he was 3 decades ahead of his time with his "run to daylight" philosophy in the running game.
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Haven't seen anything resembling the Packer sweep.
 
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Bronko Nagurski…… actually before my time. I’m a little young to have seen Jim Brown or Jim Taylor in their prime. Hard to put anyone above Brown based on impact and stats. I remember seeing them in some games but was very young. I think John Riggens was the best big back I saw play. His speed and athletic ability for a 6’2 230 lbs RB was pretty amazing.
 
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Jim Taylor or Csonka might be considered better as power runners but the best all around FB might be Tom Rathman who did it all.
A top receiver, a great blocker and could make a few yards when it was needed
 
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Jim Taylor or Csonka might be considered better as power runners but the best all around FB might be Tom Rathman who did it all.
A top receiver, a great blocker and could make a few yards when it was needed
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Taylor was a very good receiver & a vicious blocker.
 
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Rocky Bleier - Steelers

Pre massive steroid era
He and Franco Harris each had 1000+ plus in 14 game season (76)
Drafted as RB in 68, spent 2 years in Vietnam, came back from injures to be FB for 4 SB, 1980 retired.
 
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rudad02 said:
Mine is Jim Taylor of 60's Packers. Great football player--punishing runner, excellent receiver out of the backfield & just a devastating blocker.
Contemporary of Jim Browns. Always thought he was better than Brown. Taylor usually finished just behind Brown in yards gained per season except for one year when he finished 1st. Don't remember if Brown caught the ball out of the backfield, but what really separated them was that Taylor was a great blocker while Brown wouldn't block--not couldn't block but wouldn't block.

And for those that remember the Packer sweep, was that something or what! Guards Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy Thurston; Tackle Forest Greg; tight end Ron Kramer & backs Taylor & Horning coming around end. Forget about trying to stop that.
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Second the Taylor vote.
Amazing how many guys from those Packer teams are in the NFL Hall.
Jim Taylor, Forrest Gregg, Bart Starr, Ray Nitschke, Herb Adderley, Willie Davis, Jim Ringo, Paul Hornung, Willie Wood, Dave Robinson, Henry Jordan, Jerry Kramer.
And of course...the coach.
 
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Kbee3 said:
Second the Taylor vote.
Amazing how many guys from those Packer teams are in the NFL Hall.
Jim Taylor, Forrest Gregg, Bart Starr, Ray Nitschke, Herb Adderley, Willie Davis, Jim Ringo, Paul Hornung, Willie Wood, Dave Robinson, Henry Jordan, Jerry Kramer.
And of course...the coach.
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I think Lombardi/Packers are a lot of NFL "legend" hype.
The early NFL teams weren't much better than college teams.
In fact, Lombardi's 13-1 title NFL team lost to college All Stars in 63.

In 1969, veterans made 10k and rookies 9k - preseason games paid $50
Players were moving men, bouncers and construction workers in off season
Offense was the glory of NFL and defenses were clod-hopping meatheads - a reason Jim Brown ran all over them.
Lombardi himself was a bully who regretted his ways when dying of colon cancer.
Other coaches like Bug Grant thought he was an a$$
A lot of HS and college players had to suffer psychopathic coaches for years because of the "Lombardi way" BS


 
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rudad02 said:
Mine is Jim Taylor of 60's Packers. Great football player--punishing runner, excellent receiver out of the backfield & just a devastating blocker.
Contemporary of Jim Browns. Always thought he was better than Brown. Taylor usually finished just behind Brown in yards gained per season except for one year when he finished 1st. Don't remember if Brown caught the ball out of the backfield, but what really separated them was that Taylor was a great blocker while Brown wouldn't block--not couldn't block but wouldn't block.

And for those that remember the Packer sweep, was that something or what! Guards Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy Thurston; Tackle Forest Greg; tight end Ron Kramer & backs Taylor & Horning coming around end. Forget about trying to stop that.
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Great thread. Leonard was my favorite. He had the skills to be our starting HB before Ray Rice. He was great as flexible offensive weapon.
 
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ashokan said:
I think Lombardi/Packers are a lot of NFL "legend" hype.
The early NFL teams weren't much better than college teams.
In fact, Lombardi's 13-1 title NFL team lost to college All Stars in 63.

In 69 veterans made 10k and rookies 9k - preseason games paid $50
Players were moving men, bouncers and construction workers in off season
Offense was the glory of NFL and defenses were clod-hopping meatheads - a reason Jim Brown ran all over them.
Lombardi himself was a bully who regretted his ways when dying of colon cancer.
Other coaches like Bug Grant thought he was an a$$
A lot of HS and college players had to suffer psychopathic coaches for years because of the "Lombardi way" BS


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His name needs to be taken off the Turnpike rest area...immediately!!!
 
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ashokan said:
I think Lombardi/Packers are a lot of NFL "legend" hype.
The early NFL teams weren't much better than college teams.
In fact, Lombardi's 13-1 title NFL team lost to college All Stars in 63.

In 1969, veterans made 10k and rookies 9k - preseason games paid $50
Players were moving men, bouncers and construction workers in off season
Offense was the glory of NFL and defenses were clod-hopping meatheads - a reason Jim Brown ran all over them.
Lombardi himself was a bully who regretted his ways when dying of colon cancer.
Other coaches like Bug Grant thought he was an a$$
A lot of HS and college players had to suffer psychopathic coaches for years because of the "Lombardi way" BS


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Completely uninformed--too bad.
 
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