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<blockquote data-quote="Volatility_rivals135605" data-source="post: 131866641" data-attributes="member: 1476288"><p>Its amazing to me how some people allow themselves and their thoughts to be governed by emotions.</p><p></p><p>Lyons was voted just relatively recently as the top AD in the COUNTRY, not to mention all the good he has+is doing for the University to put us in a better position to be competitive in multiple sports.</p><p></p><p>The vast majority of blame is SQUARELY on DH... His transfer or bust all chips pushed in 2018 strategy left MASSIVE.....MASSIVE holes on the roster, from both a talent & experience perspective. Im not saying NB and this staff cant improve, because they can, but are we having this discussion if Doege doesnt make a few absolutely STUPID BONEHEADED plays and we beat Maryland, OU, Texas Tech, & possibly KState??</p><p></p><p>The best player development in the world only goes so far, players have to execute routine plays & in critical situations, and not make stupid game killing mistakes.</p><p></p><p>How much of our offensive issues are with:</p><p></p><p>1. A very young OL - They are talented, but also very young and we are experiencing normal growing pains of an inexperienced OL.</p><p></p><p>2. An inconsistent & immobile QB that makes horrendous mistakes and the only route he can hit is an inside slant, but because the next best option is a RedhShirt Freshmen who didnt read coverages in HS who had a shortened True Freshmen year due to Covid or a True Freshmen whos just learning the playbook & familiarization of P5 speed.</p><p></p><p>3. Lack of game-breaking play-makers, no "home-run" threat, aside from Wright, but if your QB cant consistently execute certain routes & concepts utilization is probably < 60% of his ability.</p><p></p><p>OR</p><p></p><p>Somehow in the 3 years at WVU, Neal Brown lost his ability to coach at a high level after taking a program like TROY and beating LSU @ LSU, Nebraska @ Nebraska, & taking the National Champ Clemson Tigers to the final whistle and done it all with a blatantly less talented team. If anything, that should tell you how bad the situation was at WVU.... Which would have surely Lost to TROY if Brown could magically coach two teams..</p><p></p><p>We are not having this conversation if Doege doesnt make those horrendous mistakes. I dont know if we would have beat KState or not with a quality QB, but we would have definitely beat OU, Terps, & Texas Tech.</p><p></p><p>At some point, you cant fault the staff for player execution mistakes. A coach can develop the players perfectly, teach perfect technique, call the perfect play with the perfect scheme, but a player still has to execute it.</p><p></p><p>Brown is building WVU the right way, but its a long term strategy, but it will also offer higher upside & consistency, however it does require patience. I definitely think there are areas the staff can improve, they are not perfect, but this staff is dealing with some significant roster, skillset, & experience limitations at the moment that will only be resolved by recruiting & time. Anything built of real value takes time, its a slow process, significant program-wide change occurs incrementally. That said, if we find a good QB we could see a dramatic improvement in our performance floor, because its such a critical position.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Once our OL are a bit older, and we have a less restrictive QB, I will expect to see an equal improvement in offensive creativity, aggressiveness, & reduction of predictability. The issue, Brown will be playing a 1st yr starting QB next yr, his 4th yr, so we should hopefully begin to see results towards the middle-end of next season. If we dont see them by end of next season or some point in the 5th season, then Ill be the first to say its time to move on.. Considering his starting point, and how the QB situation will work out, he deserves enough time to coach a team entirely made up of his recruits before we move on. Esp if Brown continues in recruit in the top 25-35 range and pulls in a few quality pieces from the portal. I will say, if at the end of the 5th season we move on from Brown, he will have left the program LIGHT YEARS ahead of where he found it, as long as the majority of his recruits remain here when+if he leaves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Volatility_rivals135605, post: 131866641, member: 1476288"] Its amazing to me how some people allow themselves and their thoughts to be governed by emotions. Lyons was voted just relatively recently as the top AD in the COUNTRY, not to mention all the good he has+is doing for the University to put us in a better position to be competitive in multiple sports. The vast majority of blame is SQUARELY on DH... His transfer or bust all chips pushed in 2018 strategy left MASSIVE.....MASSIVE holes on the roster, from both a talent & experience perspective. Im not saying NB and this staff cant improve, because they can, but are we having this discussion if Doege doesnt make a few absolutely STUPID BONEHEADED plays and we beat Maryland, OU, Texas Tech, & possibly KState?? The best player development in the world only goes so far, players have to execute routine plays & in critical situations, and not make stupid game killing mistakes. How much of our offensive issues are with: 1. A very young OL - They are talented, but also very young and we are experiencing normal growing pains of an inexperienced OL. 2. An inconsistent & immobile QB that makes horrendous mistakes and the only route he can hit is an inside slant, but because the next best option is a RedhShirt Freshmen who didnt read coverages in HS who had a shortened True Freshmen year due to Covid or a True Freshmen whos just learning the playbook & familiarization of P5 speed. 3. Lack of game-breaking play-makers, no "home-run" threat, aside from Wright, but if your QB cant consistently execute certain routes & concepts utilization is probably < 60% of his ability. OR Somehow in the 3 years at WVU, Neal Brown lost his ability to coach at a high level after taking a program like TROY and beating LSU @ LSU, Nebraska @ Nebraska, & taking the National Champ Clemson Tigers to the final whistle and done it all with a blatantly less talented team. If anything, that should tell you how bad the situation was at WVU.... Which would have surely Lost to TROY if Brown could magically coach two teams.. We are not having this conversation if Doege doesnt make those horrendous mistakes. I dont know if we would have beat KState or not with a quality QB, but we would have definitely beat OU, Terps, & Texas Tech. At some point, you cant fault the staff for player execution mistakes. A coach can develop the players perfectly, teach perfect technique, call the perfect play with the perfect scheme, but a player still has to execute it. Brown is building WVU the right way, but its a long term strategy, but it will also offer higher upside & consistency, however it does require patience. I definitely think there are areas the staff can improve, they are not perfect, but this staff is dealing with some significant roster, skillset, & experience limitations at the moment that will only be resolved by recruiting & time. Anything built of real value takes time, its a slow process, significant program-wide change occurs incrementally. That said, if we find a good QB we could see a dramatic improvement in our performance floor, because its such a critical position. Once our OL are a bit older, and we have a less restrictive QB, I will expect to see an equal improvement in offensive creativity, aggressiveness, & reduction of predictability. The issue, Brown will be playing a 1st yr starting QB next yr, his 4th yr, so we should hopefully begin to see results towards the middle-end of next season. If we dont see them by end of next season or some point in the 5th season, then Ill be the first to say its time to move on.. Considering his starting point, and how the QB situation will work out, he deserves enough time to coach a team entirely made up of his recruits before we move on. Esp if Brown continues in recruit in the top 25-35 range and pulls in a few quality pieces from the portal. I will say, if at the end of the 5th season we move on from Brown, he will have left the program LIGHT YEARS ahead of where he found it, as long as the majority of his recruits remain here when+if he leaves. [/QUOTE]
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