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<blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 131868045" data-attributes="member: 1428007"><p>WVU had won an average of 8 games per year five years running prior to Brown's arrival.</p><p></p><p>WVU had a top 10 offense, a Heisman hopeful most of the year, and was 4 pts. away from playing for a BIG 12 championship the year before Brown began.</p><p></p><p>As soon as Brown and co. came in, they pushed out 20 plus players off of that near B12 championship team--players that had contributed to the 8 win per year average that WVU "fans" didn't appreciate, and he rapidly turned it into one of the worst rushing and receiving squads in the country with sub .500 seasons. The previous coach didn't have the worst rushing or receiving drops in the country or close to it. Defensively there really isn't much difference either--big plays still given up at worst time, and other programs such as OU still get that extra pt or two at the end to win no matter how few pts scored. Offensively though under Brown WVU has fallen off the map--and its not as though Brown has not brought in numerous players and failed to identify the best players there, or with existing players such as the bowl winning QB he chased off in favor of Doege (and didn't let play through the season either). The best players on the team on O and D are STILL from the Holgorsen era, so its just a brazen lie to pretend nothing was left for Brown to work with--plus he has had THREE seasons to bring in his own. Other programs are winning with transfers and freshman--Brown won't even play many supposedly quality new players as another dismal season unfolds.</p><p></p><p>AD Lyons inexplicably extended him for two years, but maybe it was because the uncertaintly brought by covid or the knowledge of coming realignment changes? We don't know. It doesn't make much sense now or then because Neal Brown was not producing for WVU. Getting into a bowl was a gift as Lyons canceled the Oklahoma game that would have ensured a second straight losing season for Brown.</p><p></p><p>What can't be denied is that Brown's three year outing is the WORST coaching effort in over 40 years at WVU. That is squarely on Brown who makes numerous in game mistakes and appears inept at offensive coaching.</p><p></p><p>VT just let go a far more successful coach with a large buyout, and WVU's BIG 12 payouts have been well above the ACC payouts for awhile now. There isn't much time to turn things around--time for Brown to show something--losing and 6 win seasons isn't going to cut it even at WVU which accepts mediocrity or worse with open arms apparently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buckaineer, post: 131868045, member: 1428007"] WVU had won an average of 8 games per year five years running prior to Brown's arrival. WVU had a top 10 offense, a Heisman hopeful most of the year, and was 4 pts. away from playing for a BIG 12 championship the year before Brown began. As soon as Brown and co. came in, they pushed out 20 plus players off of that near B12 championship team--players that had contributed to the 8 win per year average that WVU "fans" didn't appreciate, and he rapidly turned it into one of the worst rushing and receiving squads in the country with sub .500 seasons. The previous coach didn't have the worst rushing or receiving drops in the country or close to it. Defensively there really isn't much difference either--big plays still given up at worst time, and other programs such as OU still get that extra pt or two at the end to win no matter how few pts scored. Offensively though under Brown WVU has fallen off the map--and its not as though Brown has not brought in numerous players and failed to identify the best players there, or with existing players such as the bowl winning QB he chased off in favor of Doege (and didn't let play through the season either). The best players on the team on O and D are STILL from the Holgorsen era, so its just a brazen lie to pretend nothing was left for Brown to work with--plus he has had THREE seasons to bring in his own. Other programs are winning with transfers and freshman--Brown won't even play many supposedly quality new players as another dismal season unfolds. AD Lyons inexplicably extended him for two years, but maybe it was because the uncertaintly brought by covid or the knowledge of coming realignment changes? We don't know. It doesn't make much sense now or then because Neal Brown was not producing for WVU. Getting into a bowl was a gift as Lyons canceled the Oklahoma game that would have ensured a second straight losing season for Brown. What can't be denied is that Brown's three year outing is the WORST coaching effort in over 40 years at WVU. That is squarely on Brown who makes numerous in game mistakes and appears inept at offensive coaching. VT just let go a far more successful coach with a large buyout, and WVU's BIG 12 payouts have been well above the ACC payouts for awhile now. There isn't much time to turn things around--time for Brown to show something--losing and 6 win seasons isn't going to cut it even at WVU which accepts mediocrity or worse with open arms apparently. [/QUOTE]
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