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Betty Gerdon Typhoonan hour ago


Sharia Law dictates that:

Women are not allowed to drive a car.
Women are not allowed to leave the house without a male relative.
Women are not allowed to own property.
Women are not allowed to seek a divorce for infidelity or abuse.
Women are not allowed to testify equally in a court of law.
Women are to be blamed for being raped.
Forensic evidence can be ignored in court.
Coerced confession is admissible in a court of law.
A woman's life is only worth HALF that of a man's.

This is the future that the left wishes to force on our republic. Just say "no" to the Democratic Party's Caliphate
 

Boomboom521

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Betty Gerdon Typhoonan hour ago


Sharia Law dictates that:

Women are not allowed to drive a car.
Women are not allowed to leave the house without a male relative.
Women are not allowed to own property.
Women are not allowed to seek a divorce for infidelity or abuse.
Women are not allowed to testify equally in a court of law.
Women are to be blamed for being raped.
Forensic evidence can be ignored in court.
Coerced confession is admissible in a court of law.
A woman's life is only worth HALF that of a man's.

This is the future that the left wishes to force on our republic. Just say "no" to the Democratic Party's Caliphate
There are different interpretations of sharia law if I'm not mistaken.
 

TarHeelEer

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Betty Gerdon Typhoonan hour ago


Sharia Law dictates that:

Women are not allowed to drive a car.
Women are not allowed to leave the house without a male relative.
Women are not allowed to own property.
Women are not allowed to seek a divorce for infidelity or abuse.
Women are not allowed to testify equally in a court of law.
Women are to be blamed for being raped.
Forensic evidence can be ignored in court.
Coerced confession is admissible in a court of law.
A woman's life is only worth HALF that of a man's.

This is the future that the left wishes to force on our republic. Just say "no" to the Democratic Party's Caliphate

Each country that implements it does so a little differently. You need to be more specific.
 

WVPATX

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Is that what I did?

"There are different interpretations of sharia law if I'm not mistaken."

This seems to me to be a defense. My point is, regardless of interpretation, Sharia Law is bad and not in accordance with Western values (women's rights, gay rights, equal rights, freedom, etc.)
 

Boomboom521

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"There are different interpretations of sharia law if I'm not mistaken."

This seems to me to be a defense. My point is, regardless of interpretation, Sharia Law is bad and not in accordance with Western values (women's rights, gay rights, equal rights, freedom, etc.)
A defense of what?
 

TarHeelEer

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Does it really matter? It's still restrictive to women

Yes it does If I were to want to pick holes in your argument I would pick Syria. They have one of the most liberal implementations of Sharia that exist, and almost none of that is true
 

Boomboom521

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Come on Boom, you're not stupid. You know exactly what I meant.
I said there are (I think) different interpretations of Sharia law....if I was to defend one, I'd first have to know which interpretation I'm defending. Otherwise it'd be kinda foolish, don't you think?
 

WVPATX

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I said there are (I think) different interpretations of Sharia law....if I was to defend one, I'd first have to know which interpretation I'm defending. Otherwise it'd be kinda foolish, don't you think?

My point is there is NO interpretation of Sharia Law that is consistent with Western Liberal Values. None. You may want to research it to become more informed.
 

Boomboom521

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My point is there is NO interpretation of Sharia Law that is consistent with Western Liberal Values. None. You may want to research it to become more informed.
Why does that matter? Not everyone thinks like you. I'm not mistaken when I think there are American Muslim women that choose to follow sharia law without being forced to, am I?

Why the outrage at not allowing Christians to be Christians even if it goes against US law, but you think women should be freed of Islamic beliefs? Why can't you just let Christians and Muslims practice their beliefs in their own manner? I'm not making a church marry a homosexual couple or a baker bake a cake, and if a woman chooses s view of God and life that restricts her freedom...well that CHOICE is hers to make. BUT HEY AS LONG AS THEY CAN FLEE THEIR COUNTRY FOR A COUNTRY THAT OFFERS FREEDOM...SHE WILL BE OK
 

WVPATX

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Why does that matter? Not everyone thinks like you. I'm not mistaken when I think there are American Muslim women that choose to follow sharia law without being forced to, am I?

Why the outrage at not allowing Christians to be Christians even if it goes against US law, but you think women should be freed of Islamic beliefs? Why can't you just let Christians and Muslims practice their beliefs in their own manner? I'm not making a church marry a homosexual couple or a baker bake a cake, and if a woman chooses s view of God and life that restricts her freedom...well that CHOICE is hers to make. BUT HEY AS LONG AS THEY CAN FLEE THEIR COUNTRY FOR A COUNTRY THAT OFFERS FREEDOM...SHE WILL BE OK

If Christians violate the Constitution, the Constitution reigns in this country. Same with Sharia.

I am shocked you seem to be defending Sharia given how it completely disregards human equality. We should all be in favor of equality and speak out forcefully for it, right?
 

Boomboom521

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If Christians violate the Constitution, the Constitution reigns in this country. Same with Sharia.

I am shocked you seem to be defending Sharia given how it completely disregards human equality. We should all be in favor of equality and speak out forcefully for it, right?
Oh I think all your religious righteousness is bs...Christians or Muslims, but I have no problem with you believing in what you believe. Hypocrisy sucks though.
 

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There are different interpretations of sharia law if I'm not mistaken.
Oh I think all your religious righteousness is bs...Christians or Muslims, but I have no problem with you believing in what you believe. Hypocrisy sucks though.

I disagree with you tbecause: There are portions of Sharia that directly conflict with our law (Constituional Law) and they should not be included into it. ex severing of hand and foot for theft; execution by stoning for adultery and many more. These have nothing to do with Christianity.
 

Boomboom521

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I disagree with you tbecause: There are portions of Sharia that directly conflict with our law (Constituional Law) and they should not be included into it. ex severing of hand and foot for theft; execution by stoning for adultery and many more. These have nothing to do with Christianity.
D e p e n d s on the interpretation of Sharia. I'm not for chopping off someone's hand for theft, just like I'm not for stoning someone to death for working on Sunday. But you're right these insane laws derivative from ancient texts have nothing to do with Christianity.
 

WVPATX

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D e p e n d s on the interpretation of Sharia. I'm not for chopping off someone's hand for theft, just like I'm not for stoning someone to death for working on Sunday. But you're right these insane laws derivative from ancient texts have nothing to do with Christianity.

Not sure if you're being sincere or denigrating Christianity. As I said once before, bigots come in all forms. I hope you're not a Christian bigot.

And since you apparently don't know the New Testament or the new Covenant with your remark about stoning, I assume you're pretty ignorant of Christian philosophy.
 

Boomboom521

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Not sure if you're being sincere or denigrating Christianity. As I said once before, bigots come in all forms. I hope you're not a Christian bigot.

And since you apparently don't know the New Testament or the new Covenant with your remark about stoning, I assume you're pretty ignorant of Christian philosophy.
Oh...stoning people was a Christian philosophy? What that wasn't in the Bible or anything was it?
 

Boomboom521

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Not sure if you're being sincere or denigrating Christianity. As I said once before, bigots come in all forms. I hope you're not a Christian bigot.

And since you apparently don't know the New Testament or the new Covenant with your remark about stoning, I assume you're pretty ignorant of Christian philosophy.
I assume you're pretty ignorant of Oslamic philosophy?
 

WVPATX

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Oh...stoning people was a Christian philosophy? What that wasn't in the Bible or anything was it?

Boom, you're showing your Christian bigotry. The stoning you are referring to was part of the Law of the Old Testament. Jesus brought us a new Covenant. In fact, Jesus prevented a woman accused of adultery from being stoned. Very famous in Christian teachings.

Christianity is defined as a follower of Christ. Christ replaced the old law with his new Covenant of faith and redemption.

You need to learn a lot more about Christianity before accusing Christians of such heinous actions.
 

WVPATX

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I assume you're pretty ignorant of Oslamic philosophy?

If you mean Islamic, you're actually incorrect. I have many, many friends who are Muslim, both Shia and Sunni. They have done a wonderful job of educating me. I have learned a great deal and am now much more intelligent about Islam and the religion. I am much more knowledgable of the region since my friends come from the Gulf, Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and even Iran.

As I have posted many, many times, my wife is Lebanese/Syrian. Her family comes from Jordan, Palestine and some in the Gulf states.
 

Boomboom521

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Boom, you're showing your Christian bigotry. The stoning you are referring to was part of the Law of the Old Testament. Jesus brought us a new Covenant. In fact, Jesus prevented a woman accused of adultery from being stoned. Very famous in Christian teachings.

Christianity is defined as a follower of Christ. Christ replaced the old law with his new Covenant of faith and redemption.

You need to learn a lot more about Christianity before accusing Christians of such heinous actions.
Oh wait, so you're saying there are things in the Bible that were said by god....like rules and punishments people must follow....but now those rules or punishments are not relevant to living a life of God?
 

WVPATX

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Oh wait, so you're saying there are things in the Bible that were said by god....like rules and punishments people must follow....but now those rules or punishments are not relevant to living a life of God?

Again, you are so ignorant of the Bible, particularly the New Testament. In the Old Testament, God gave the Israelites the Law, the 10 Commandments which must be followed strictly. Jesus brought a new Covenant from God, far different than the 10 Commandments. That is part of the reason he was so hated by the Jews of the day. His teachings were about love, compassion, forgiveness, empathy, spending time with sinners (read the Sermon on the Mount if you have the guts).

This new Covenant was about Faith, not laws. Jesus took away the law and replaced it with his Covenant. Your ignorance on this topic astounds me since you deign to post about facts with which you know next to nothing about.
 

Boomboom521

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Again, you are so ignorant of the Bible, particularly the New Testament. In the Old Testament, God gave the Israelites the Law, the 10 Commandments which must be followed strictly. Jesus brought a new Covenant from God, far different than the 10 Commandments. That is part of the reason he was so hated by the Jews of the day. His teachings were about love, compassion, forgiveness, empathy, spending time with sinners (read the Sermon on the Mount if you have the guts).

This new Covenant was about Faith, not laws. Jesus took away the law and replaced it with his Covenant. Your ignorance on this topic astounds me since you deign to post about facts with which you know next to nothing about.
What facts did I post about Christianity Paxx?
 

WVPATX

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What facts did I post about Christianity Paxx?

Oh wait, so you're saying there are things in the Bible that were said by god....like rules and punishments people must follow....but now those rules or punishments are not relevant to living a life of God?

Oh...stoning people was a Christian philosophy? What that wasn't in the Bible or anything was it?

What the heck is this about if not Christianity? Is the Bible not Christian?

Stop digging Boom. When you're in a hole as deep as this one, stop digging.
 

Boomboom521

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Oh wait, so you're saying there are things in the Bible that were said by god....like rules and punishments people must follow....but now those rules or punishments are not relevant to living a life of God?

Oh...stoning people was a Christian philosophy? What that wasn't in the Bible or anything was it?

What the heck is this about if not Christianity? Is the Bible not Christian?

Stop digging Boom. When you're in a hole as deep as this one, stop digging.
Those all read like questions to me there Paxx. I didn't claim to know anything about Christianity, I was asking questions to the worlds most authority on everything.
 

WVPATX

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Those all read like questions to me there Paxx. I didn't claim to know anything about Christianity, I was asking questions to the worlds most authority on everything.

You were making mocking statement in the "form" of questions. You're a Christian bigot. I have no doubt anymore. You know nothing about the faith. Yet, you ridicule it. You show your ignorance of it and then claim you are only asking questions. I think most people see through this charade.

Again, my advice, stop digging.
 

Boomboom521

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You were making mocking statement in the "form" of questions. You're a Christian bigot. I have no doubt anymore. You know nothing about the faith. Yet, you ridicule it. You show your ignorance of it and then claim you are only asking questions. I think most people see through this charade.

Again, my advice, stop digging.
I ridiculed Christianity or Islam? What's a Christian bigot? A Christian that hates certain people? I'm not Christian Paxx, so I'm not sure what that means.
 

WVPATX

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I ridiculed Christianity or Islam? What's a Christian bigot? A Christian that hates certain people? I'm not Christian Paxx, so I'm not sure what that means.

You're bigoted against Christians. So very obvious with your every post on the topic of religion.
 

WVPATX

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Oh....because I said I hate Christians?

No, because of your posts:

D e p e n d s on the interpretation of Sharia. I'm not for chopping off someone's hand for theft, just like I'm not for stoning someone to death for working on Sunday. But you're right these insane laws derivative from ancient texts have nothing to do with Christianity.

Oh...stoning people was a Christian philosophy? What that wasn't in the Bible or anything was it?

Your constant mocking is all the evidence I need to make my observation and my opinion. Sharia Law in some countries does pact the chopping off of heads, hands, etc. No Christian nation stones anyone and you know it. Yet your post as if it still happens.

My suggestion Boom, know a little about Christianity before your mocking. Or better said, stop digging.
 

Boomboom521

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No, because of your posts:

D e p e n d s on the interpretation of Sharia. I'm not for chopping off someone's hand for theft, just like I'm not for stoning someone to death for working on Sunday. But you're right these insane laws derivative from ancient texts have nothing to do with Christianity.

Oh...stoning people was a Christian philosophy? What that wasn't in the Bible or anything was it?

Your constant mocking is all the evidence I need to make my observation and my opinion. Sharia Law in some countries does pact the chopping off of heads, hands, etc. No Christian nation stones anyone and you know it. Yet your post as if it still happens.

My suggestion Boom, know a little about Christianity before your mocking. Or better said, stop digging.
I was saying sometimes there are interpretations of religious texts that people take literally when they aren't sure about how to truly understand the context. I think it happens with religions other than Islam and laws other than Sharia law, and often times these interpretations misrepresent many people that faithfully follow their religion and understand the contexts of the religious texts.

My opinion, it's your thing do what you wanna do. US law is US law, and that's all I care about. As long as US law allows people fleeing oppression to come here...I'm fine with whatever other countries want their laws to be about.
 

WVPATX

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I was saying sometimes there are interpretations of religious texts that people take literally when they aren't sure about how to truly understand the context. I think it happens with religions other than Islam and laws other than Sharia law, and often times these interpretations misrepresent many people that faithfully follow their religion and understand the contexts of the religious texts.

My opinion, it's your thing do what you wanna do. US law is US law, and that's all I care about. As long as US law allows people fleeing oppression to come here...I'm fine with whatever other countries want their laws to be about.

You made denigrating comments about Christianity that have not been true for thousands of years. Sharia Law exists in the here and now. That's the difference.
 

Boomboom521

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You made denigrating comments about Christianity that have not been true for thousands of years. Sharia Law exists in the here and now. That's the difference.
Sharia Law is the same for all Muslims? How is stating something that exists in the Bible denigrating?
 

Boomboom521

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It's never been a Christian philosophy.
I'm just trying to be a jerk to Paxx. I know it's not a Christian philosophy, and that references to it on the Old Testament are not decrees of Law and punishment. I'm just trying to make it clear that Sharia Law is interpreted in different ways, and alluding to extremes in ancient texts or even to a specific modern interpretation is not an accurate way to depict all modern religious philosophy of that religion or even all practices as they exist in that religion today.

I said there are different interpretations of Sharia Law and Paxx chooses to claim I'm defending Sharia Law. If a snake handler Christian chooses to let himself die from a bite, that's his/her choice. No violation of our constitution, IMO. As long as that person was not forced to abide by their law. If he/she was forced to abide by their denominations laws, then I imagine their are plenty of places in the US to flee.