Beyond a reasonable doubt.....

was21

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It seems that concept will probably apply to Croom's situation. A lot was made out of his hiring, and a lot will be made out of his firing. If the concept of "beyond a reasonable doubt" is used in his firing, there shouldn't be much of a hue and cry.
 

vhdawg

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....is to point at his record of winning slightly more than one out of every three games.

Race won't enter into it. His record cannot be argued.
 

RebelBruiser

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The biggest argument against Croom is that the only successful unit on his teams has been his defense. He's an offensive coach. If the unit of your expertise has never been a strength of the team, then you're probably not that good of a coach.

At least with Cutcliffe, our major problems were usually on our defense. Offense was never an issue. Tubberville for another example is a defensive coach. Defense is usually the strength of his teams. Petrino is an offensive coach, and the strength of his teams historically has been offense. Same with Nutt.

I don't know that I've ever seen a head coach who has had more trouble getting his expert side of the ball to perform. When your background is offense, and your offense has never performed at all, it makes you wonder. You still have a long season ahead, and I believe that your defense will give you chances to possibly pull off some surprises and possibly still get you to 6 wins and a bowl. However, even if you were to come back and go 6-6 or 7-5, I don't see how Byrne couldn't be concerned with the lack of offensive production.
 

muddawgs33

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[b said:
vh[/b] dawg]....is to point at his record of winning slightly more than one out of every three games.

Race won't enter into it. His record cannot be argued.
you know some idiots are going to talk about what shape our program was in when he got here. They will say his 1st 2 or 3 years should be expunged from his record.

I think his coaching decisions and stubbornness will be the reason race won't factor in. The fact that he insist on running an offense that's too complicated even after the results show that he can't run it successfully in college. The fact that he continues to belittle the fans. The fact that he lets his gut decide when we go on 4th down despite how the game has played out. The fact that he lost to a school who just started playing football. The fact our players are in the newspaper more than britney spears and paris hilton. The fact that he blames everyone but the coaching staff for when we lose.

I'm sure Croom will give us more and has given us more reasons why race won't factor in to his firing, but I don't think coaching record will be one, just for the fact that most people will give him a pass on the 1st 2 or 3 seasons.
 

Shmuley

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that have even a dumbass like Bob Davie saying, "WTF?" provide the perspective needed to eventually overcome what will most assuredly be the onslaught of race-baiting.

But make no mistake about it, the race-baiters will show up in droves to "Say it Loud!"