What “other” site? KSR? 247? Sea of Blue? There is not just one other site.
BG - yikes?
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We might need some more years of the Portal to get a complete picture but I wonder if there's any data on the rate people transfer more than one time (ie. do most just transfer once and stay at a school or does being a transfer make them more likely to transfer again in the future).
I ask this because we'll run into a similar issue we did with Cal. We need people to come here and stay lol.
A big part of that will be:
1) Have enough NIL to compete with other schools and keep people around
2) Pope has to create a culture where people want to stay here.
I ask this because we'll run into a similar issue we did with Cal. We need people to come here and stay lol.
A big part of that will be:
1) Have enough NIL to compete with other schools and keep people around
2) Pope has to create a culture where people want to stay here.
Yea he could come in and be a reserve for 10 mins a game for both 4 and 5. I could see that
But you have Moreno, Diabate, and Jaden Q. kam is 6'8 and can play there as well. I just think Garrison won't be happy with a less role than last year
His dad AND Jaden himself stated that the reason he chose UK was how Coach Pope allowed the Center MORE freedom to do things other programs didn’t. Like bring the ball up the floor, start the offense, allow the offense to flow through him and let him play aggressively on the defensive end.
Jaden shot 18% from the 3 pt line and 48% from the FT line. That is something that he DEFINITELY needs to improve. But I have no doubt that Coach Pope can increase his accuracy in BOTH areas. But Jaden is NOT a PF.
Brandon Garrison CAN make 3 pt shots and is athletic enough to guard on the perimeter. He would fit the mold of a 4. He ALSO needs to work on his game and strength, but if he decides to leave, I’m sure Coach Pope has players in mind to play the 4.
I think the coach has to sell the players on the advantages of staying in school. I'd tell them the Swen Nader story. Swen only played center and came in with Bill Walton so he never averaged over 8-10 minutes per game in college when he could've been an All-American candidate at any other school. But he won multiple championships and it did not hurt his NBA career at all. The NBA guys still knew about him and he still was a 1st round pick and had a nice pro career.
if we didn’t get JQ one of the players I really wanted to enter the portal is being rumored to enter. Thiam from UCF
If BG leaves so be it, very immature kid
Add the Spaniard from Robert Morris to take his place
Add the Spaniard from Robert Morris to take his place
I appreciate the good discussion, Wildcats1st. I agree with a number of things you said. We both can see Quaintance’s potential, just in different ways I think. I agree that a healthy Quaintance could be a nightmare to handle athletically. He reminds me somewhat of Zion Williamson in regard to potential overpowering athleticism. And he definitely has time to improve his weaknesses (he’s only 17 for goodness sake). But he likely needs quite a bit more development time if he is to become a decent enough shooter that other teams won’t be begging him to shoot from the 3pt. line (currently a tentative looking set-shot thing which he thankfully rarely takes and much, much more rarely makes). But will he be at UK beyond this season to see it? Again, however, in the one season he can still be a big help in other areas with his powerful athleticism (which I assume he will still have to practically the same degree).
And being a projected draft pick (or a top whatever ranked on high school recruiting sites) has little, if any, correlation to how a good a young player will be for his team the next year in college – and those projections or rankings are not intended to forecast how good a player will be in that one year of college. It’s fans who try to correlate the two – not the ranking sites (they explicitly say that’s not what they’re doing).
But, I also agree there are definitely different ways to play and win. I even think you can do it with two non-perimeter Bigs playing together (e.g., Kansas and typically Calipari). But Pope will have to find a different offensive style if Quaintance is the PF next season – and if so, I believe UK will have to have at least two snipers and another decent 3pt. shooter in the lineup at the same time (again see Kansas for what it looks like if you don’t).
This hopefully is just a think tank situation because Garrison should stay-he'll be getting more minutes next year and he's secure in his role. He's the lone guy who has been in the system/program of the big men coming in and he has upside/developmental potential. This running when someone decides to join mentality is weak ****. Moreno will be a Freshman, and JQ is coming off a serious injury and it's a situation where Garrison can float from 5/4 depending on the lineup on the court if he sticks it out.
Hope it's just talk, but if he does want to enter the Portal/move on-then hope it happens ASAP so they can address it quicker.
Hope it's just talk, but if he does want to enter the Portal/move on-then hope it happens ASAP so they can address it quicker.
The only difference was Amari dribbled it up some and we played a bit faster when everyone was healthy. But the half-court offense always ran through Amari when he was in.
Seriously underrated analysis here. That's the rub with the Zoom/DHO stuff. Pressure the handler and the line is wide open. Play off of him and the passer can see the entire floor.
Just chatter, but i'm hearing BG and Jizzle James are talking and UC is a good possibility if he hits the portal.
I just hope it doesn't drag out and he makes a decision soon so Pope will know if he has to add another big.
the art of faking seems to be lost in todays' game
Issel used to use a head fake to get himself to the line or an open shot
Garrison doesn't have the strength of T Jones or the ball handling ability
I like Garrison & thought that he would be a great addition, but he did not live up to expectations in the rebounding or shot blocking departments.
There are seemingly precious few across the nation that play like Amari but then Amari didn't look the part before Pope got ahold of him either.
JQ is here to take on that role and I'm sure there are more guys that can be molded into similar but it isn't super layperson obvious who those guys are.
I think a more currently relatable tale needs to be told.
These kids don't care about an example from fifty years ago.
It is a very different world now. The NBA just cares way more about potential now.
Those. The longest fanged snake in the world and they're quite beautiful. This coming from someone who's scared to death of snakes. Or venomous snakes I should say. Good memory though by you.
About 3 or 4 years ago I heard my dog make a super awkward bark. I go on the kitchen and there's a copperhead trying to hide. It was like 4 in the morning. It took me an hour to get it out with a broom. I was shook. There was a section under my door missing and I went and bought a new door the second they opened lol.
Yes, something more recent would be better. But it remains true that nobody ever failed in the NBA because they didn't play enough minutes or average enough points in college.
Disagree. It needs to be seen as initiated by the player to control the narrative and lessen the impact on any decision Pope has made or may make. Future recruiting and player retention depends on it. Honestly, regrettably, isn't necessarily the best policy in this type of transaction in this environment.
I find that hard to believe. We need another big anyway. Doesn’t seem like something Pope would do.
Need to make up our minds as a program. We either try and build a team or hire 1 year mercenaries every season. For so many who proclaimed they hated the OD Cal created now they are clamoring for it when an under grad isn't a superstar right out of the gate
So many GREAT UK players over the years weren't world beaters thier first year here. Delk .Miller , Washington Padgett to name just a FEW. Today some of you guys would have run them off sayi.g they are not " good" enough after 1 season. I hope Garrison stays and we actually do try to build rosters over time, but I doubt it happens, too many of you really deep down don't have the patience for that regardless of what you SAY
So many GREAT UK players over the years weren't world beaters thier first year here. Delk .Miller , Washington Padgett to name just a FEW. Today some of you guys would have run them off sayi.g they are not " good" enough after 1 season. I hope Garrison stays and we actually do try to build rosters over time, but I doubt it happens, too many of you really deep down don't have the patience for that regardless of what you SAY
Time to use the bat phone our favorite Spanish pf. I'm sure pope has talked to BG ad nauseum about his role next year and if he is still acting like this let's just move on from him.
Garrison is an ok player, but I assume he wants a lot of money and starters minutes and he certainly has not proven he can be a starting level center for a final 4 team. Best just to move on a get a player with proven production and not have the attitude.
Brandon Garrison’s career can be summed up as a timely stop, an unlikely defensive rebound, an impressive dribble move past a defender, almost loses the handle, regains composure, a beautiful euro move into the paint and a bricked layup off the back of the iron.
it’s the players that have changed. You won’t see many developmental players on rosters as most can get playing time and even more money by transferring.
Yeah he might have grown into it with more time but man this year everytime he got it out high and looked for the back door cut I yelled NO!!!! Because you knew he felt like he needed to thread a pass in whether it was there or not every time.
Maybe the staff and BG know more about our chances for Darrion Williams from Texas Tech. Its aparantly either NBA, BYU or Kentucky.
Cal has completely brain washed about half our fan base. Folks keep demanding 1 and done mercenaries instead of trying to build and develop a team. Cals gone but his ideas remain embedded in fans .minds. we must have superstars and NBA players to reach the FF despite just watching 2 teams with no NBA rated: stars: in this year's title game. If BG wants to be here I want him here. He is a Wildcat and deserves our respect and support instead of constant criticism and vitriol.
I feel like this works both ways tho.
Yeah having players that decide to stick around only helps. But if the guys that are sticking around are also the guys that maybe not as talented enough to contribute to title contending teams it's a negative no matter how you slice it.
When people complained about players under Cal leaving for the NBA and wanting guys to stay, it was always no you don't just want players to stay........you want the players that are going to contribute in a big way to stay.
Not necessarily talking about BG specifically just in general. Clayton and Broome or Cryer coming back for senior years is a lot different than BG coming back.
Also, we can't ignore the fact that Duke made a final four with 3 Freshman contributing in a huge way. And despite the loss to Houston, were probably the best team this season.
There's many ways of doing this. But all those teams had one thing in common, they had insanely talented players be it guys that maybe weren't highly recruited, became very good and decided to stay. Or a team full of highly recruited FR.
Cal's shadow is still over so much of the discussions among our fans (especially on this board, which has a well earned bad reputation across other fan sites, College basketball reddit, etc.). We have people who think we need a bunch of top 25 recruits or we're junk. And you have people who have such PTSD from the later Cal years that don't think we can get anything worthwhile out of freshmen other than sitting on the bench waiting to be sophomores.
Well, considering you thought running the offense meant bringing the ball up the court, I think it's just best to leave it right here.