Iowa has actually wrestled great so far and the Anti-Brands crown are STILL comically negative. Go figure…
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Thank you. There were a lot of posters on here claiming the calls were bad but I assumed that was just due to Hawkeye colored glasses since Ironside and Grace were even calling it before the refs did.
Can someone please cite the rule? The clock stopped right after that sequence. No new wrestling had occurred. How do you measure too late in that instance?
2 in the semis right now.
will have Caliendo likely
174: PK vs Pinto
184: Welsh vs Ferrari
HWT: BK vs Ferrari.
let’s say 4 in the semi’s maybe 5.
do you consider that good?
Can SOMEONE tell me why THE f8ck THEY DID NOT THROW THE BRICK!?!?!?!??! That was a HUGE match!!!!!
Thats essentially what Ironside and Grace did. One said "Stalling, JUST STALL HIM!"Dan Gable would have been asking the ref to stall him out. How the mighty have fallen.
Sigh.
Thanks. I have seen bricks thrown way later with actual wrestling going on well after the sequence in question. I will knock Brands there. He should have thrown it right when his wrestler asked for it. That was too important of a match not to…
And the bald head POS Krailure jr REF was just looking to call staling!!!! But the coaches have to get that challenge or get thrown out of the gym there!!!!
How many years do you have to wrestle to know you don't go straight back to the edge when you've already been hit multiple times?
Block wrestled well, until he quit wrestling. This is on him, and him alone. (with some poor reffing for PSU of course - if he's wrestling Indiana he wins this match IMO)
I agree, I think they could have given it to him. Since there was no additional action and a break in the match, but Brands definitely hesitated miking it questionable.
At the end of the match Block wrestled not to lose instead of wrestling to win. He was the better wrestler today, but you got to finish strong.
Adding in here
Ayala and Bailey have qualified for the national tournament!
Ayala and Bailey have qualified for the national tournament!
I believe the rule says it’s referee’s discretion. While the ref was waiting for Ryder to come back to wrestle and telling him to hurry, Ryder was begging for a brick for a breather and the corner knew it wasn’t a takedown so they said no. It was pretty obvious he wanted a breather do the ref exercised his discretion.
To argue this point is just as disingenuous as blaming the coaching on Arnold giving up in the last 3 seconds or block tiring out while beating the #1 guy the whole match.
Can you twist the narrative any further? Peterson lost to the #1 seee on 2 crazy close calls. Ayala avenged a loss in dominant fashion. Bailey dominated. Block nearly beat the #1 seed. 2 backups are the only other losses.
. Considering they were seeded to take 7th, yeah they have wrestled damn good so far!
All he had to do was circle. That’s it. Frustrating!
He may have been but where have these calls been for the rest of history? Nowhere at any time has stalling been called like this, ever......
What’s there to twist?
It’s a conference tournament. Sure the big ten is the toughest tournament. By what I’m reading your comfortable with the hawks hanging in the 7-10 range of a CONFERENCE tournament.
Too bad almost doesn’t score points.
First off, the takedown was damn close. I have seen considerably worse called a takedown. Also, I have seen a TON of breather bricks thrown. If it wins the damn match it’s well worth it…
I’m sure the Brands are morally opposed to breather bricks, hence the hesitation. Zeke Jones has that brick out immediately.
Cannon gassed hard after 2 mins. Every time they restart, head down and no initial movement off the whistle.
Caliendo with a takedown.
Escape to a takedown. 6-1.
Escape, one minute left on the first.
Escape to a takedown. 6-1.
Escape, one minute left on the first.
Reading the rule you posted when it says immediately and then that the ref will stop the match as quickly as possible when there’s a break in action. Well, there WAS a break in action and there was no new wrestling. What’s the reason to not allow the brick there? I get it when there’s a challenge during a scramble and a coach waits 5 seconds to throw it, but when there’s already a break in action how do they not allow that?
It is possible to lose close matches and wrestle great. If you can’t see how much better Iowa is wrestling as a team right now versus the regular season, you are either blind or intentionally obtuse…
He hesitated for 2 reasons. It wasn't a takedown, and even if it was he wasn't gonna get it against PSU.
IMO if Block just keeps wrestling he takes Van Ness down again. He was the better wrestler when he actually wrestled.
I agree somewhat
. Hawks are not wrestling terribly bad but we continue to lose matches due to lack of heart and/or conditioning. Lots of different aspects to coaching. Kids have some responsibility but most of the blame falls on the coaches.I agree there wasn’t a takedown, but the reason for the brick was not to actually review the takedown.
Why? Because they get to wrestle Indiana in the first round?
you really can’t judge the improvement until quarters or semi’s imo.
He backed off the mat 3 times and one of the times he sat down off the mat while ness was still in
It was simply too late. The ref had already heard the coaches say no to Ryder and the opponent and ref were lined up ready to go.
I don’t think it was particularly close to a takedown but that’s okay. Ryder had to do the bare minimum to win the match and couldn’t. Easier said than done against SVN but here we are.
Major adrenaline dump. He gave everything he had the 1st 2 periods against a guy that is flat out better than him. He desperately needed that takedown OR at least the time that brick would give him to recover.
I don’t knock Brands often, but he HAD to see that and throw it…
13-4.
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13-5.
RT at 1 minute.
And they cut to 3 screens and don’t show Caliendo lol
Cut
13-5.
RT at 1 minute.
And they cut to 3 screens and don’t show Caliendo lol