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AndreTheHawk

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Should have had one in the 3rd when Angelo had him in the air and he kicked out on the edge.
Angelo had 2 really good shots, and worked his *** off and muscled it in to get there and up on one leg. Then pisses it away on the edge when he should have been dragging his *** back in both times. C'mon guys!

Lot of wasted efforts on some solid wrestling.
 

heldyhawk606

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Ferrari insanely looking for stalls when he lifted Rocco twice in the air. For goodness sakes, bring him back to the middle instead of thinking home cooking won't be home cooking.
Just had this conversation with my kids... yes the refs missed some calls - and I'm pissed as all heck about them too - but angelo had Rocco in the air twice and didn't finish either shot.
 

MSU158

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No stamina

Angelo is gassed

We have so many wrestlers gassed.
He has missed a ton of the year due to a substantial injury. I was worried he wouldn’t be anywhere close to his best. Not only was that not the case, he basically had nearly all the offense in that match.

The kid has a TON of heart and is a special kind of wrestler. Hopefully he wrestles back to 3rd and they don’t give him another ridiculous seed at NCAA’s…
 

SEWAHawk

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He has missed a ton of the year due to a substantial injury. I was worried he wouldn’t be anywhere close to his best. Not only was that not the case, he basically had nearly all the offense in that match.

The kid has a TON of heart and is a special kind of wrestler. Hopefully he wrestles back to 3rd and they don’t give him another ridiculous seed at NCAA’s…
Agreed on a lot of this.

Look at the difference between Ferrari and Block. Both appeared to be equally as gassed.

Ferrari gets two more good shots and takes the match another 3 minutes extra. Block runs away the last half of the match.

these elite guys can just dig deep and keep going.
 
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MSU158

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Just had this conversation with my kids... yes the refs missed some calls - and I'm pissed as all heck about them too - but angelo had Rocco in the air twice and didn't finish either shot.
Welsh is a physical specimen. If you can, go back and watch his hand positioning and the far leg in both situations. He is so incredibly strong that he controlled those positions even when he was in the air.

The only way Ferrari finishes either of those would be coming dangerously close to an illegal slam causing Welsh to let go or being able to collect the far leg and/or hip. Welsh’s defense is elite…
 

MSU158

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Agreed on a lot of this.

Look at the difference between Ferrari and Block. Both appeared to be equally as gassed.

Ferrari gets two more good shots and takes the match another 3 minutes extra. Block runs away the last half of the match.

these elite guys can just dig deep and keep going.
I am a huge fan of Block, but comparing him to Ferrari simply isn’t fair. Two vastly different leagues…
 

heldyhawk606

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Agree, but Block was in full surrender mode for a full minute, and Ferrari had two great chances to score and for some reason tried to do it on the edge where he didnt have space.

Even with questionable officiating, Iowa could have multiple wins there if the guys finish stronger.

Still, collectively the best performance by Iowa in a lonnngg time so far today.
there have been some positives, but the Ryder and Gabe losses - not who they lost to, or what weight class, but how they lost - and now the Angelo loss considering the opportunities he didn't finish - need something to chase this round with
 
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SEWAHawk

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I am a huge fan of Block, but comparing him to Ferrari simply isn’t fair. Two vastly different leagues…
That’s the point. Ferrari and these elite wrestlers in general just have a different gear that solid wrestlers do not have
 
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STtiger2025

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Welsh is a physical specimen. If you can, go back and watch his hand positioning and the far leg in both situations. He is so incredibly strong that he controlled those positions even when he was in the air.

The only way Ferrari finishes either of those would be coming dangerously close to an illegal slam causing Welsh to let go or being able to collect the far leg and/or hip. Welsh’s defense is elite…
He controlled the first by grabbing the singlet. Go back and watch it again. Not saying we win that match but that’s what happened.
 

MSU158

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That’s the point. Ferrari and these elite wrestlers in general just have a different gear that solid wrestlers do not have
No argument there and that is why that brick was SOO damn important. You have to know what your wrestler needs and do whatever it takes to give it to him.

Everyone here knows I don’t knock Brands often, but he messed up there big time!
 

LIV4GOD

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Welsh is a physical specimen. If you can, go back and watch his hand positioning and the far leg in both situations. He is so incredibly strong that he controlled those positions even when he was in the air.

The only way Ferrari finishes either of those would be coming dangerously close to an illegal slam causing Welsh to let go or being able to collect the far leg and/or hip. Welsh’s defense is elite…
No, no. What Ferrari did on the edge he could have done in the middle. Bring him back to dead center and see what happens.
 

Jcchawk

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He has missed a ton of the year due to a substantial injury. I was worried he wouldn’t be anywhere close to his best. Not only was that not the case, he basically had nearly all the offense in that match.

The kid has a TON of heart and is a special kind of wrestler. Hopefully he wrestles back to 3rd and they don’t give him another ridiculous seed at NCAA’s…
More than Angelo have gassed.
 
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heldyhawk606

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He controlled the first by grabbing the singlet. Go back and watch it again. Not saying we win that match but that’s what happened.
someone needs to go back through that match and pull out all the singlet pulls by Welsh - I think I counted at least 4 - and get that on replay like all the videos counting Angelo going to a knee in the first matchup
 

MSU158

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No, no. What Ferrari did on the edge he could have done in the middle. Bring him back and see what happens.
Even in the center he doesn’t finish those takedowns any different than how I said. He came nowhere close to clearing his wrists or collecting the opposite hip and/or leg.

Short of a possible singlet grab, Welsh is just that damn good defensively…
 

Ptguard5

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Take the bias out and just watch the matches so far. Who hasn’t wrestled visibly better than their regular season?

Other than Voinovich, whom I said should NOT be a starter this year when Robiduea destroyed him at National Duals, this is the best EVERY guy has looked all year. It may still not be enough for many of you, but it’s undeniable so far.

Maybe it corrects itself by the end of the tourney, but being negative now is simply because you WANT to be…
Sad when we are looking for participation points.
 

SEWAHawk

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Iowa with 4 in semis (pending BK match).

Gabe has a match yet this session.
 

HawkeyeGenius

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Holy ****, just screwed on another td. Where’s the control?
It wasn't there. Seemed obvious to me. Probably another reason TnT need to go. They've rubbed so many the wrong way, Iowa just doesn't get the calls either and it's hurt our guys.
 

SEWAHawk

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Hawks are tied for 4th with Michigan at 44 points. Minnesota has 43.5

After Ferrari wins there will be a 14 point gap between 3 and 4 before the wrestlebacks
 
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