Big 12 > Big 10 correct?

klong-dog

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At least it has been all year. Why make a big deal about the possible big 10 champion and no talk about the big 12? Is it because of no championship game? I still would have a hard time believing Baylor or TCU would be talked up like OSU is getting right now. Everyone has laughed at the Big 10 all year now trying to pump one of them in the final 4.
 
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karlchilders.sixpack

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Everyone wants a piece of the pie

Don't blame them. But everyone, and I mean everyone has at some point has acknowledged the strength of the SEC W.

WE dang well better hope Wisconsin beats OSU, while we are setting at home.
 

dogfan96

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As far as national perception, there's the SEC, Pac-12...

then a HUGE dropff to the Big 12/Big10/ACC... Mich. State had a chance before they lost to Ohio State. Ohio State won't be able to overcome losing at home to Va Tech, unless they're the only one-loss team left to pick (unless FSU loses to Florida... and even then Florida would be likely 7-4 and they would get the benefit of the doubt being an SEC team)
 

WayboDawg

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I have a hard time understanding why Baylor isn't getting a bigger push. They hold wins over TCU, at Texas, and at Oklahoma. Only loss was on the road to a bowl eligible West Virginia, and I'd say that is a much better loss than what Ohio State has at home against a non-bowl eligible Virginia Tech team. TCU seems to be the leading candidate to jump MSU, but I like Baylor's resume better because of what I already stated, not to mention they beat TCU head to head.
 

johnson86-1

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I have a hard time understanding why Baylor isn't getting a bigger push. They hold wins over TCU, at Texas, and at Oklahoma. Only loss was on the road to a bowl eligible West Virginia, and I'd say that is a much better loss than what Ohio State has at home against a non-bowl eligible Virginia Tech team. TCU seems to be the leading candidate to jump MSU, but I like Baylor's resume better because of what I already stated, not to mention they beat TCU head to head.

TCU has a KSU victory that's pretty decent and a Minnesota win that for some reason is considered good, and I think their loss to Baylor was at home. At the end, Baylor should be ahead of TCU if they win out because of the head to head and because they too will hav a win over KSU at that point. If not, that'd be the equivalent of us being picked over bama despite the head to head because we played one semi-decent non-conference team. SO basically by their logic, if you switched our and Bama's OOC schedule so that we beat WVU, we should get in over them. Surely Baylor will pass them in the end.
 

klong-dog

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TCU has a KSU victory that's pretty decent and a Minnesota win that for some reason is considered good, and I think their loss to Baylor was at home. At the end, Baylor should be ahead of TCU if they win out because of the head to head and because they too will hav a win over KSU at that point. If not, that'd be the equivalent of us being picked over bama despite the head to head because we played one semi-decent non-conference team. SO basically by their logic, if you switched our and Bama's OOC schedule so that we beat WVU, we should get in over them. Surely Baylor will pass them in the end.


Which you know would never happen. That last sentence I mean.
 

Old Fart Dawg

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one of the talking eksperts was saying that TCU's best win was KState, and in the next paragraph said that MSU's win over Auburn wasn't impressive anymore because they had 3 losses.
KState, which lost to an unimpressive 3-loss Auburn team, at home, on national TV, is TCU's best win? The logic, the logic.
 

121Josey

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B-b-b-b-b-but-but-but the B1G is playing the best football of any conference RIGHT now.**
 

Wicked Pissah

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It appears to me that at the end of the year, nobody will have a good win.

I mean, if you go good wins, if ole miss wins vs us, they should be in because they would have the 2 best wins in the country.

The whole thing is BS. If ND or OSU had our resume, they'd be 2 or 3 imo.

If state wins out, they are in I believe, especially if ole miss beats arkansas.
 

MabenMaroon

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I have a hard time understanding why Baylor isn't getting a bigger push. They hold wins over TCU, at Texas, and at Oklahoma. Only loss was on the road to a bowl eligible West Virginia, and I'd say that is a much better loss than what Ohio State has at home against a non-bowl eligible Virginia Tech team. TCU seems to be the leading candidate to jump MSU, but I like Baylor's resume better because of what I already stated, not to mention they beat TCU head to head.
I am with you on that one, they literally curb stomped OU at Norman and fairly much humiliated UT at Austin.
 

RocketDawg

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The experts too sometimes say what they want to believe instead of looking at the actual data.

Personally, I think all SEC West wins are good (and conversely all West losses are good losses) because no team that I can think of, other than Auburn, has been beaten by a team outside the West. We just continue to obliterate each other. Losing to a West team doesn't mean the losing team is weak. I still contend that all West teams, other than Arkansas and possibly Auburn, are top 10 teams, and Arkansas is good enough to be ranked in the top 25. They've mostly been unlucky.

And best I can remember without looking it up, the only SEC loss to a team was from another conference was Missouri'l loss to Indiana. How that happened I'll never know.