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Big Beautiful Bill - Is Now The Law Of The Land. Congrats Tax And Spenders

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Allornothing

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TigerGrowls said:


When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill “Cuts to Medicaid” you’ll realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying through their teeth

No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts

“Here is just the first page of the cuts:

-Cut number 1, saving $35 billion over 10 years. Limit federal health program eligibility based on citizenship status.

That's just saying that people who are here illegally don't get to use Medicaid. It's something you have told us isn't happening anyway, so you obviously agree with that cut.

- Cut number 2, eliminate Medicare coverage of bad debt, saving 42 billion over 10 years. Do you know what bad debt is? You probably don't, so let me explain it to you.

Bad debt is where you have a debt with a hospital beyond what your coverage pays. So like let's say you have private health insurance. Now, your health insurance is going to pay their piece and then you have your leftover piece. Now if you don't pay that, that is what's known as bad debt. Now under no circumstances will your private health insur cover your bad debt.

However, if you have Medicaid, the American taxpayer will cover up to 65% of that debt. Now, how hospitals use that to their advantage is they up the prices for people on Medicaid, therefore making that bad debt increase dramatically and the American taxpayer pays 65% of it. All this would say is that we're not going to do that anymore. Therefore hospitals can't charge more for people on Medicaid because they're not going to make any extra money from it. Who the is opposed to that?

- Cut number 3: Next Medicare site neutrality set to save $148 billion over the 10 years. That one's actually really simple. All that says is the hospitals can't charge people on Medicare and Medicaid more. It just says they have to charge people on Medicare and Medicaid the same prices they charge people on private health insurance or cash. Is there anyone who's opposed to that? No, I didn't think so.

Now, from just those 3, we're looking at $200 plus billion dollars in savings.

Now, I imagine if I said we're going to cut $200 billion for Medicaid, y' all would freak the out. However, when you do a little bit of research, when you actually look into the topic that you're bitching about, making tiktoks about, you can see that. That $200 billion worth of cuts you agree with, Like, I just showed you one quarter of all the cuts they want to make.

And here's the thing. If you remotely have f*cking common sense, you don't disagree with any of them.“
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This guy thought Communist had common sense.
 
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firegiver said:
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) just published its score of the recently unveiled bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. Though its estimates are complicated to decipher, they show the legislation would directly add over $340 billion to the deficit and cost nearly $400 billion when including indirect effects from a higher transportation spending baseline; neither figure includes interest.

As CBO explains, the direct spending, appropriations, and revenue provisions in the legislation would have a net cost of $256 billion. On top of this, the legislation would increase highway and transit "contract authority" by roughly $90 billion over five years and set the stage for a $196 billon increase over a decade.

Taken together, CBO shows the legislation would authorize $566 billion of spending and tax breaks, which translates to $517 billion of costs over the next decade. Offsetting revenue and spending provisions would save about $206 billion in budget authority and generate $173 billion of actual savings.

On net, the legislation would cost over $340 billion based on its direct effects. This is roughly in line with our prior estimate of the bill.
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You will be wrong. Just like you always are.
 
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johnhugh said:
God give us the power to cause additional harm to the poor and marginalized as Christ taught us to do. This prayer brought to you by Raytheon and Meta, amen

This bill will do irreparable damage to the country. The question is will you and the rest of the sheep take the blame when it happens?
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****** posing as a Christian. That's a new one.

"This bill will do irreparable damage to the country." How is this so? Explain it to us.

"The question is will you and the rest of the sheep take the blame when it happens?" We've all had to take the blame for 4 years of Biden. Sign me up *****.
 
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fatpiggy said:
As I stated before, this bill is a Bunch Of Bloated ********. I am not in favor of the bill. We need smaller bills. We need to massively cut spending. This bill does none of that. I hope Republicans revisit some of these topics in the near future to try and reduce the deficit and debt.

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Damn @fatpiggy. Haven't you learned anything? We have to pass the bill before we see what is in it.
 
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fatpiggy said:
Some good news on the BBB

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It's a damn shame that we don't give free healthcare to illegal murderers, rapist, and pedophiles. WTF are we doing. GOD (Dear Lord please forgive me for my blasphemy. I only did it to point out the stupidity of others) will judge us because of this.
 
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dpic73 said:
The saddest part is when this abomination of a bill adds another 4 trillion to the debt, there will be no other option than to cut SS, Medicaid and Medicare and Democrats will somehow be blamed for it.

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That ****** has never been right about anything. EVER. Not surprising you would love him, because you have never been right about anything. EVER.
 
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Even MMT (modern monetary theory) which pegs GDP for validity could not support an argument for this abomination
 
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PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST SIGNED THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
 
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Dadar said:
Even MMT (modern monetary theory) which pegs GDP for validity could not support an argument for this abomination
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MMT was a failure. Inflation was rampant under MMT. The voters said no more. I’m inflation was the #1 issue in the election and Trump won in a landslide.
 
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I do not agree with MMT.
I believe any congressional budget approval should require at least a 2/3 majority of the yes or no choices discounting no votes. I have to believe that a 2/3 approval requirement would facilitate a deficit budget for extraordinary circumstances or events
 
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Claiming there are millions of able-bodied adults scamming Medicaid is one of the biggest lies about the BBB.


Nobody is eating healthcare. You are eligible for Medicaid.
 
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